GladiusB@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 2024 02:19
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This is dumb. Their whole argument is that “anyone can buy information”. That’s not the point. The point is they own the information. And the ownership matters A LOT.
Who owns your information is the biggest scam on the people of our generation. Who owns the information for where you go and what you do can lead to so many problems. See Facebook and Google.
They completely glaze over this and ignore it completely. That also doesn’t account for what they could here if the microphone has access that isn’t common knowledge.
Ban all social media if you think ownership is the point. Or is it only a problem now because you’re not the top dog in internet surveillance? You schum come over like the ownership matters “now” when the pole position is from a different country is hilarious and very telling.
They (Tiktok) has owned the information for about 10th of the time social media companies became a thing. Everyone in the US was fine then while social media companies were sowing discord/violence/hate and genocide abroad, now everyone else is fine most US social media data is owned by someone else. Deal with it.
It’s not the author who’s out of touch. The same recipe US used to create mega corp monopolies is coming to bite you, it’s just controlled by the CCP, LMAO.
Keep telling yourself whatever makes you seem you’re on the righteous side. You’re fooling no one. you do you tho.
GladiusB@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 2024 08:56
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You don’t know anything about me. You created this whole facade in your life. Not mine. You have zero clue of what social media I use, if any. And if I do, why.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 2024 10:17
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Peak troll behavior.
Can’t even find the argument between your insults, this comment is hilarious, but not in the good way.
And if you wanna have an answer that’s actually informative: it doesn’t matter which company, which country or where, but having content based information as well as metadata can lead to so much power, and there’s a good argument to be made that no one deserves blackmail levels of power over your life, especially a random cooperation that’s beholden to no one except it’s own rules.
And before you go on a tirade again: no, this has absolutely nothing to do with country or anything, this is an ethical dilemma which can be extended to any country.
ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 2024 17:50
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The country does matter. China operates social scoring limiting people based on non-criminal behaviour. People also often disappear, with no recourse. They use this information to manipulate public opinions. They also use this information to support their genocide of minorites in China. They also manipulate Chinese people outside of China to support their espionage and propaganda. They also use this to limit and regulate information access.
Tiktok is a tool owned and operated by a totalitarian government, that has recently become less accountable and more totalitarian. Other social medias aren’t comparable.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Apr 2024 10:25
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It’s a problem now because China is a hostile state.
Yes, that obviously matters.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 2024 03:20
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“Poor” media literacy?
Any.
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 2024 11:20
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Tik tok is getting banned because it’s more popular than the American counter parts and has nothing to do with China gathering information.
The author stated china could just buy user data. So the argument of privacy concerns is invalid.
jeffw@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 2024 15:31
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I honestly don’t have strong feelings about the Tik Tok ban/forced sale but one other argument is that the CCP could “pull the strings” and show content to users
unphazed@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 2024 03:36
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I think to myself : “yeah but people will see the propaganda fr what it is immediately.” Then I realize people got mad at RT being removed from providers, Newsmax and FN, as legitimate news sources, etc… funny how they single TT which hasn’t done any of that yet but ignore the others. The fact they consider it’s sale to the US is the ultimate hypocrisy - free market my ass.
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 2024 17:20
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It’s also due to media manipulation capabilities by skewed algorithm results. The owners can silently promote any content or agenda, and the average user takes it as valid information. That’s a dangerous power in the hands of a corporation beholden to the Chinese government.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 Apr 2024 16:01
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TikTok fears point to larger problem: Poor media literacy in the social mediacapitalist age
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This is dumb. Their whole argument is that “anyone can buy information”. That’s not the point. The point is they own the information. And the ownership matters A LOT.
Who owns your information is the biggest scam on the people of our generation. Who owns the information for where you go and what you do can lead to so many problems. See Facebook and Google.
They completely glaze over this and ignore it completely. That also doesn’t account for what they could here if the microphone has access that isn’t common knowledge.
The writer has no idea what is going on.
Ban all social media if you think ownership is the point. Or is it only a problem now because you’re not the top dog in internet surveillance? You schum come over like the ownership matters “now” when the pole position is from a different country is hilarious and very telling.
They (Tiktok) has owned the information for about 10th of the time social media companies became a thing. Everyone in the US was fine then while social media companies were sowing discord/violence/hate and genocide abroad, now everyone else is fine most US social media data is owned by someone else. Deal with it.
It’s not the author who’s out of touch. The same recipe US used to create mega corp monopolies is coming to bite you, it’s just controlled by the CCP, LMAO.
Keep telling yourself whatever makes you seem you’re on the righteous side. You’re fooling no one. you do you tho.
You don’t know anything about me. You created this whole facade in your life. Not mine. You have zero clue of what social media I use, if any. And if I do, why.
Peak troll behavior.
Can’t even find the argument between your insults, this comment is hilarious, but not in the good way.
And if you wanna have an answer that’s actually informative: it doesn’t matter which company, which country or where, but having content based information as well as metadata can lead to so much power, and there’s a good argument to be made that no one deserves blackmail levels of power over your life, especially a random cooperation that’s beholden to no one except it’s own rules.
And before you go on a tirade again: no, this has absolutely nothing to do with country or anything, this is an ethical dilemma which can be extended to any country.
The country does matter. China operates social scoring limiting people based on non-criminal behaviour. People also often disappear, with no recourse. They use this information to manipulate public opinions. They also use this information to support their genocide of minorites in China. They also manipulate Chinese people outside of China to support their espionage and propaganda. They also use this to limit and regulate information access.
Tiktok is a tool owned and operated by a totalitarian government, that has recently become less accountable and more totalitarian. Other social medias aren’t comparable.
It’s a problem now because China is a hostile state.
Yes, that obviously matters.
“Poor” media literacy?
Any.
Tik tok is getting banned because it’s more popular than the American counter parts and has nothing to do with China gathering information.
The author stated china could just buy user data. So the argument of privacy concerns is invalid.
I honestly don’t have strong feelings about the Tik Tok ban/forced sale but one other argument is that the CCP could “pull the strings” and show content to users
I think to myself : “yeah but people will see the propaganda fr what it is immediately.” Then I realize people got mad at RT being removed from providers, Newsmax and FN, as legitimate news sources, etc… funny how they single TT which hasn’t done any of that yet but ignore the others. The fact they consider it’s sale to the US is the ultimate hypocrisy - free market my ass.
Tiktok has done a lot of propaganda already. They just aren’t as clumsy as RT with it.
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It’s also due to media manipulation capabilities by skewed algorithm results. The owners can silently promote any content or agenda, and the average user takes it as valid information. That’s a dangerous power in the hands of a corporation beholden to the Chinese government.
Improved that somewhat.
Don’t cut yourself on that edge.
Kids aren’t even pronouncing words correctly, let alone havimg any clue on how to look up pronunciations… Media literacy is understating things.