I think it could happen. As soon as he’s in the government, they will decide that TikTok is illegal, and he’ll either launch the clone or buy the US version from them.
I actually believe it’s more likely than not.
Then the propaganda machine will include both Twitter and TikTok. You’ll probably never see a fair election again in the US.
I’ve seen popular social media get banned. Again and again. It doesn’t really lead to local alternatives gaining traction, it just leads to even a gramma knowing what a VPN is.
I tried switching to Proton. They took my money somehow (I think I was looking over the paid options and then got distracted and auto filled. Basically I wasn’t paying attention) and then when I noticed on my cc bill I contacted them to say 'hey, I didn’t mean to pay for all these features I don’t need and am not using. Can I please have a refund?" They were like “lol it’s been a month and 2 days so no, enjoy your 17 email addresses and some other crap you aren’t using and don’t need.”.
Still looking for an alternative to Google but it isn’t going to be Proton.
That honestly seems like a reasonable response from Proton. You signed up for their paid service; you’re not entitled to a refund because you weren’t paying attention
You are correct, which is why I didn’t pursue the matter. They can keep my money, they’ve lost a customer.
They are providing a SERVICE. I was not using the service, I didn’t need it. The mistake might have been mine (assuming it wasn’t a dark pattern or sketchy design) but they had a choice: keep my money and tell me to go fuck myself (which they did) or refund my money at no cost to them. This wasn’t a box of goods that they would have to take back and reinventory.
I would have purchased the lower tier of service (which I explained to the rep) and continued to use their services, and I would have been telling you about how they were reasonable and I am a happy customer.
I had already invested significant effort in moving my email over, it was a pain to shift back, but if Proton’s answer to a simple problem is “fuck you, we’ve got ours.”, I’ll pass. I spent a lot of time on their 'pick a paid service" page because I was going to pay for one of their lower tiers, I just hadn’t decided which one.
I’ve never been more satisfied hosting my own email than after reading this.
just_another_person@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 13:11
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Called this before the election. Musk is going to try and angle to get his shitty platforms to be used exclusively by government agencies. It’s an out in the open plan to just steal and funnel taxpayer money for bullshit.
PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 14:09
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finally we get to answer the question: can emails set on fire?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Dec 14:17
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It’s like Gmail but with racism!
maxenmajs@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 14:46
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Let me remind you that this will be under the same guy who made his employees yank out server machines and transport them in an unprofessional and insecure manner. Your data would be unsafe with him in more than one way.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 15:25
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I can’t wait for the first story about how someone’s email account got deleted because they said something less than complimentary about man child Musk on Twatter.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 16:51
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Free with the service: a thrice daily digest of edgy quotes from The Xavior, reasons why He is perfect and completely enlightened, and a plethora of ads for musk-related merchandise and products.
No unsubscription option from this will be available. But that’s okay. The cult will gleefully lap all that shit up.
Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Dec 17:33
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I wonder when he’ll create an online Fax service and call it FaXimile or something.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 20:23
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He probably started to become active in politics so he can create the UXA at some point.
TheFogan@programming.dev
on 20 Dec 20:27
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I think something he just plain doesn’t get… who on earth is the target demographic. There’s no shortage of e-mail services, outlook, yahoo, gmail, as public easy to use ones.
So what I gather, the closest to a major “feature”, is to remove formatting and image ability from the e-mail. Which… most likely means existing e-mails formatted for other platforms, will error out or be unreadable unless individuals choose not to use their formatting ability from their mail clients?
Gmail rose to fame, because it actually solved a real problem. IE at the time gmail came out, hotmail was offering like 10 MB of storage. Google offered 1GB. A change so big people thought the anouncement was just an april fools joke (admitted, announcing it on april 1st was probably intentional for that as well).
I guess, but even there… I fail to see the target there. IE truth social and xitter at least have a reason alt right extremists need them… IE facebook and old twitter would occasionally ban people or put fact checks on some nazi rhetoric and blatent false stories. To my knowledge no e-mail provider is going to ban you for sending that FW:FW:FW:FW: My dog was infected by my son’s friends covid vaccine, and my hatian neighbor became trans after eating it.
LANIK2000@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 20:47
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Oh awesome, can’t wait to explain how I got a porn site email.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 23:11
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MuskMail?
Nah dawg. I’m good.
Probably end up getting banned from my own email when he gets triggered by whatever he happens to be triggered by that day. Don’t really feel like trusting my data to an adult that acts like a 12 year old.
r_deckard@lemmy.world
on 21 Dec 00:47
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It would certainly accelerate the development of language. How many new words will be invented, or existing words subverted, to serve clandestine communications and slip past the filters? Steganography, anyone?
Can I See Great Etchings Near Dubai Ending Roughly? <- That’s a bit weak, but you get the idea.
I like the idea of finding alternative and clever ways of saying things, but I wouldn’t like having to do it out of fear of offending our billionaire overlords.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 21 Dec 15:41
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Dang that’s a bit harsh to the poor 12 year olds, being compared to someone like that!
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Dec 23:36
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… it seems Musk has confirmed that he at least plans to create a very simple email service that uses text-only emails that arrive in the style of direct messages.
This sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately Musk is involved. He’s obviously going to use it to feed to his AI (as the article points out).
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 21 Dec 00:00
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“I’m sorry, you cannot send this email because it contains the words “cisgender”, please edit this and try again.”
You mean giving him an easily scrape-able database of my social media interactions and interests/internet footprint via junk mail lists/marketing ads from sites I visit and sign up for?
Thank you but I’m personally going to pass.
Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org
on 21 Dec 01:23
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He’s seemingly trying to create a suite of social networking and other tools. Maybe to compete with Google and the likes. Ambitious for sure. I don’t know
if he’ll have any success given how Twitter is going.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Dec 02:39
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lol ew
Lemminary@lemmy.world
on 21 Dec 04:45
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When you throw enough shit at the wall, something’s bound to stick, I guess. Unless you’re a giant turd who thinks you’re a good entrepreneur.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 21 Dec 05:08
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cant wait to automatically send any xmail.com emails to junk
edit oooh haha that domain already exists so basically elon is sol
Wouldn’t surprise me that instead of offering the current owner something nice and real that he’ll just spend 10 times the amount on lawyers to just sue the guy into oblivion to get it.
Fuck Musk
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Dec 06:17
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he could just use x.com for that too
jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev
on 21 Dec 18:47
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An e-mail platform doesn’t enjoy the same kind of network effect as social media, so there won’t be any social penalty for never joining or leaving it. Unless he comes with a compelling reason to keep an account there, I don’t see it taking off.
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I feel like I’d even trust Zuckerberg over Musk with my email
And I’d never trust Zuckerberg with my email
I wouldn’t even trust them with my public keys
I’m borrowing that.
Are you going to give it back?
Maybe one day, when you least expect it!
This remembers me of the possibility of him buying TikTok and renaming it to “X Vídeos”. What are the odds of such a tragicomedy to happen?
That would be hilarious
I live in some hope that he renames his holding company “XCOM” so that it can join the likes of Skynet in making our childhoods real…
But xcom were supposed to be the good ones. Have we been lied all this time?
I think it could happen. As soon as he’s in the government, they will decide that TikTok is illegal, and he’ll either launch the clone or buy the US version from them.
I actually believe it’s more likely than not.
Then the propaganda machine will include both Twitter and TikTok. You’ll probably never see a fair election again in the US.
Wait didn’t they already decide TikTok was illegal? I thought that ban was taking effect soon
AFAIK it’s only banned for government officials and maybe their family.
It is apparently a full ban starting Jan19th
forbes.com/…/will-the-us-ban-tiktok-heres-the-lat…
I’ve seen popular social media get banned. Again and again. It doesn’t really lead to local alternatives gaining traction, it just leads to even a gramma knowing what a VPN is.
And also profess his love of hamsters.
And just like that, I’m suddenly way more comfortable google…
The bar is pretty low, but yeah. At least Google provides a pretty good email service. I can’t have the same confidence in a Musk product.
I’ll be sticking with Protonmail, personally
I tried switching to Proton. They took my money somehow (I think I was looking over the paid options and then got distracted and auto filled. Basically I wasn’t paying attention) and then when I noticed on my cc bill I contacted them to say 'hey, I didn’t mean to pay for all these features I don’t need and am not using. Can I please have a refund?" They were like “lol it’s been a month and 2 days so no, enjoy your 17 email addresses and some other crap you aren’t using and don’t need.”.
Still looking for an alternative to Google but it isn’t going to be Proton.
That honestly seems like a reasonable response from Proton. You signed up for their paid service; you’re not entitled to a refund because you weren’t paying attention
You are correct, which is why I didn’t pursue the matter. They can keep my money, they’ve lost a customer.
They are providing a SERVICE. I was not using the service, I didn’t need it. The mistake might have been mine (assuming it wasn’t a dark pattern or sketchy design) but they had a choice: keep my money and tell me to go fuck myself (which they did) or refund my money at no cost to them. This wasn’t a box of goods that they would have to take back and reinventory.
I would have purchased the lower tier of service (which I explained to the rep) and continued to use their services, and I would have been telling you about how they were reasonable and I am a happy customer.
I had already invested significant effort in moving my email over, it was a pain to shift back, but if Proton’s answer to a simple problem is “fuck you, we’ve got ours.”, I’ll pass. I spent a lot of time on their 'pick a paid service" page because I was going to pay for one of their lower tiers, I just hadn’t decided which one.
I’ve never been more satisfied hosting my own email than after reading this.
Called this before the election. Musk is going to try and angle to get his shitty platforms to be used exclusively by government agencies. It’s an out in the open plan to just steal and funnel taxpayer money for bullshit.
finally we get to answer the question: can emails set on fire?
It’s self-destruct and it’s a feature!
It’s like Gmail but with racism!
Let me remind you that this will be under the same guy who made his employees yank out server machines and transport them in an unprofessional and insecure manner. Your data would be unsafe with him in more than one way.
I can’t wait for the first story about how someone’s email account got deleted because they said something less than complimentary about man child Musk on Twatter.
I can’t wait for twitter’s youtube competitor Xvideos!
I just tried that and now Human Resources wants me to come down to meet with them.
Maybe you’re winning an award!
As an early adopter, I approve
That’s already on Twitter.
Wonder what “free speech absolutist” freedoms he’s going to apply to that service.
.
Don’t go there guys
Get fucked Elon.
If so, Google oa going to be a safe choice.
Free with the service: a thrice daily digest of edgy quotes from The Xavior, reasons why He is perfect and completely enlightened, and a plethora of ads for musk-related merchandise and products.
No unsubscription option from this will be available. But that’s okay. The cult will gleefully lap all that shit up.
I wonder when he’ll create an online Fax service and call it FaXimile or something.
Gonna make a porn site to compete with PornHub called s3X.com
Sure musk, get my private stuff. No, F off you nazi as*hole.
You’re allowed to swear on the Internet.
Fuck yeah
Yeah! Hell, damn, fart!
He probably started to become active in politics so he can create the UXA at some point.
I think something he just plain doesn’t get… who on earth is the target demographic. There’s no shortage of e-mail services, outlook, yahoo, gmail, as public easy to use ones.
So what I gather, the closest to a major “feature”, is to remove formatting and image ability from the e-mail. Which… most likely means existing e-mails formatted for other platforms, will error out or be unreadable unless individuals choose not to use their formatting ability from their mail clients?
Gmail rose to fame, because it actually solved a real problem. IE at the time gmail came out, hotmail was offering like 10 MB of storage. Google offered 1GB. A change so big people thought the anouncement was just an april fools joke (admitted, announcing it on april 1st was probably intentional for that as well).
It'll be the mail service for the alt-right, I'd imagine.
I guess, but even there… I fail to see the target there. IE truth social and xitter at least have a reason alt right extremists need them… IE facebook and old twitter would occasionally ban people or put fact checks on some nazi rhetoric and blatent false stories. To my knowledge no e-mail provider is going to ban you for sending that FW:FW:FW:FW: My dog was infected by my son’s friends covid vaccine, and my hatian neighbor became trans after eating it.
Oh awesome, can’t wait to explain how I got a porn site email.
Jeez another X something baby of Musk 🤮
MuskMail?
Nah dawg. I’m good.
Probably end up getting banned from my own email when he gets triggered by whatever he happens to be triggered by that day. Don’t really feel like trusting my data to an adult that acts like a 12 year old.
It would certainly accelerate the development of language. How many new words will be invented, or existing words subverted, to serve clandestine communications and slip past the filters? Steganography, anyone?
Can I See Great Etchings Near Dubai Ending Roughly? <- That’s a bit weak, but you get the idea.
I like the idea of finding alternative and clever ways of saying things, but I wouldn’t like having to do it out of fear of offending our billionaire overlords.
smells like desperation and divorce
Dang that’s a bit harsh to the poor 12 year olds, being compared to someone like that!
This sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately Musk is involved. He’s obviously going to use it to feed to his AI (as the article points out).
“I’m sorry, you cannot send this email because it contains the words “cisgender”, please edit this and try again.”
The DOGE police is on their way to your location.
we just call that the police in the USA
GMail could actually use more competitors. However I definitely won’t be trusting Musk with my email.
You can use bullshit X email for bullshit social media accounts like Reddit. Sweet.
You mean giving him an easily scrape-able database of my social media interactions and interests/internet footprint via junk mail lists/marketing ads from sites I visit and sign up for?
Thank you but I’m personally going to pass.
ProtonMail is enough for me.
Shove that stupid 'X' up your ass, Musk.
“Competetor”
He’s seemingly trying to create a suite of social networking and other tools. Maybe to compete with Google and the likes. Ambitious for sure. I don’t know if he’ll have any success given how Twitter is going.
lol ew
When you throw enough shit at the wall, something’s bound to stick, I guess. Unless you’re a giant turd who thinks you’re a good entrepreneur.
cant wait to automatically send any xmail.com emails to junk
edit oooh haha that domain already exists so basically elon is sol
Wouldn’t surprise me that instead of offering the current owner something nice and real that he’ll just spend 10 times the amount on lawyers to just sue the guy into oblivion to get it.
Fuck Musk
he could just use x.com for that too
It would probably be mail.x[.]com
I will be sure to auto filter any emails from that shit.
So white-power mail?
X-Mailer is a thing already tho.
An e-mail platform doesn’t enjoy the same kind of network effect as social media, so there won’t be any social penalty for never joining or leaving it. Unless he comes with a compelling reason to keep an account there, I don’t see it taking off.