Nissan to go all-electric by 2030 despite petrol ban delay (www.bbc.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 16:00
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Nissan to go all-electric by 2030 despite petrol ban delay::The carmaker moves ahead with its plan despite delays to the UK’s ban on new petrol and diesel cars.

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autotldr@lemmings.world on 29 Sep 2023 16:00 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Nissan will accelerate plans towards electrification by committing that all vehicles sold in Europe will be electric by 2030.

Car trade body the SMMT has voiced concerns that the postponement of the ban would see consumers delay the switch to electric vehicles.

Nissan will also introduce new battery technology by the end of the decade that it said will reduce both the charging time and cost of electric vehicles (EVs).

In an interview with the BBC, Mr Uchida said the company was aiming to bring down the cost of electric vehicles for customers, so that they were no more expensive than petrol and diesel cars.

Last year, it announced plans to invest £1bn in expanding the facility that sits next to its Sunderland car plant.

Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch recently told the BBC the government was optimistic that a deferral could be secured.


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awesomesauce309@midwest.social on 29 Sep 2023 16:42 next collapse

They gotta put the new Z body on an electric base. I’d trade up

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 16:54 next collapse

Aren’t their gas cars already catching on fire? They might wanna like… Iron that out before making evs.

Steve@communick.news on 29 Sep 2023 17:00 collapse

Nothing they do to stop the combustion engine fires from getting out of control, will be applicable to preventing fires in electric cars.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 17:03 next collapse

Sure, but the fact that they’re selling fucking bombs isn’t exactly comforting, especially when ev fires are significantly more devastating and harder to extinguish than gas car fires.

billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 2023 17:29 collapse

Lol I think their incompetent QA/QC department would like to speak with you.

Nissan vehicles are hot garbage. Go drive a Leaf sometime and see for yourself

harpuajim@lemmy.ml on 29 Sep 2023 18:08 next collapse

It’s odd because I always considered them right up there with Toyota and Honda but between their transmission and engine issues over the past decade they’re clearly not in the same league.

billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works on 30 Sep 2023 14:30 collapse

Yea the point I was making is they’re not the same company the once we’re. Nissan of the late 90’s no longer exists.

Eccitaze@yiffit.net on 29 Sep 2023 20:04 collapse

Huh? I’ve had a 2018 base model Leaf for over 4 years, and here’s the sum total of my issues:

  • Car didn’t recognize the door was closed at one point, preventing me from shifting out of park (issue was due to dents in frame caused by occasionally closing the door on the seat belt buckle, which was positioned at the same height as the sensor switch built into the door that gets depressed when door is closed. Fixed in 5 minutes by wadding up a small ball of packing tape and taping it to the frame where it comes in contact with the sensor switch)

  • It occasionally doesn’t load the Bluetooth module properly, fixed by restarting the car

That’s literally it. It’s been rock solid otherwise, and it gets driven literally every day.

billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works on 30 Sep 2023 14:29 collapse

A 4 year old car should have zero issues but I say that being a Toyota owner.

The Leaf’s air cooled batteries lacking any kind of thermal management is usually a deal breaker for most folks. But yes, I’m sure Nissan chose to do that for quality reasons.

Eccitaze@yiffit.net on 30 Sep 2023 18:06 next collapse

I’ve had the car in the shop for repairs precisely zero times, and the one actual problem I’ve had was mostly my own damn fault and once I figured out what was going wrong it was a literal 5 minute fix. I’d call that zero issues.

And the air cooled battery is literally not an issue unless you fast charge it multiple times in a day. The number of times I fell under that scenario in 4 years of ownership was precisely once, when I going on a weekend road trip for my birthday, and I opted to rent a hybrid for that instead. I consider something that covers literally 99.999% of my driving needs, has needed zero shop time beyond routine maintenance, and has saved me literally thousands of dollars in gas money to be a pretty good deal.

Now, to be 100% fair, I wouldn’t recommend someone buy a Leaf today because its CHAdeMO fast charger is obsolete. But the car itself is perfectly fine.

billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works on 01 Oct 2023 16:55 collapse

Glad to see you’re happy with your purchase bud

CmdrShepard@lemmy.one on 30 Sep 2023 20:30 collapse

I have a 10 year old Toyota with 180k miles that has only needed a brake switch replaced and I’ve just now gotten an EVAP light on which could be as simple as a new gas cap or potentially the purge valve or solenoid which are both simple, inexpensive fixes. Zero other issues since buying it at 30k miles. I totally agree that most Nissans are crap (not quite as bad as a Stellantis vehicle) and are marketed as options for people with bad credit (not to say bad credit = bad person just that they aren’t built with quality in mind).

billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works on 01 Oct 2023 16:57 collapse

Yea that was my point re: Nissans aren’t hat they used to be.

A brain damaged chimp could get financing for a Nissan. They certainly aren’t designed for quality anymore, regardless of fuel system

shotgun_crab@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 17:39 next collapse

I’m assuming this affects any Electron app as well, right?

AbidanYre@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 17:57 next collapse

Wrong post?

randomaccount43543@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 22:27 collapse

Lost lemmings…

echodot@feddit.uk on 29 Sep 2023 17:52 next collapse

Yeah because they know that what the Tories announce at this point is essentially just irrelevant and shouldn’t be taken the seriously.

nehal3m@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 2023 19:08 next collapse

They have a whole world market to serve, I don’t think they give a fuck about UK politics

LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works on 30 Sep 2023 07:54 collapse

However Nissan do have R&D and manufacturing facilities in the UK, so the law would affect them directly … also, outside the EU has anyone else proposed a set date to end ICE car sales?

bstix@feddit.dk on 30 Sep 2023 08:57 collapse

Yes. There’s a map and list here: …wikipedia.org/…/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehicle…

LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works on 30 Sep 2023 20:11 collapse

Belgiums looking good there!

It’s good to see that there’s a few other countries going for it too, I guess there’s large parts of the world where it’s going to be near impossible though due to distances and lack of electricity (until solar cars are cheap and plentiful, but we might have all perished by then, lol)

bappity@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 23:08 collapse

I want the Tories out NOW but I think we still have another year or 2 with them :/

Kecessa@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 2023 17:54 next collapse

Hopefully they start using active cooling on their batteries…

KaJedBear@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 19:32 collapse

I just got the Ariya which has active cooling. I think the leaf still doesn’t though.

PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 2023 19:50 collapse

What are your initial impressions of the Ariya?

KaJedBear@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2023 22:22 collapse

It’s been great so far, but it’s my first EV so comparisons are difficult. It checked all the major boxes I was looking for, particularly AWD and range close to 300mi. It has a lot of creature comforts that were an upgrade from the Impreza I had previously, but nothing you can’t get in an ICE; heated steering and seats, remote climate control, and other tech upgrades.

If you like buttons and knobs then you might not like the Ariya; they went for a very minimalist design and most controls are on the touch screen. That hasn’t been too much of an issue for me.

The plus models with eForce are plenty quick (scared the shit out of my wife the first time we gunned it down the freeway). It is heavy though, as one would expect. Overall, for the price point it’s a solid choice if you want something more like an SUV than the ioniq 5 or the EV6. The overall build quality seems quite good (Hyundai and Kia appears just felt a little flimsy to me). I am quite happy with it so far.

PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works on 07 Oct 2023 15:47 collapse

Good to hear it’s decent. The more competitors in the mid-price EV market, the better

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 29 Sep 2023 21:02 next collapse

Hhmm what about their navaras, patrols, etc? Electric can’t tow caravans, trailers, etc around the Australian outback yet. Is this just UK?

Longpork_afficianado@lemmy.nz on 29 Sep 2023 21:59 next collapse

Electric motors can deliver a lot more torque than ICEs, which makes them very much suitable for towing in terms of power, they just need to deliver larger battery packs to compensate for the weight of the towed vehicles, otherwise the range will be limited.

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 30 Sep 2023 01:32 collapse

That they can. 100% torque at 0 rpm. The issue is reliable distance capabilities in remote areas. Currently, they just can’t do it.

dmonzel@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 22:43 collapse

The very first sentence of the article:

Nissan will accelerate plans towards electrification by committing that all vehicles sold in Europe will be electric by 2030.

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 30 Sep 2023 01:30 next collapse

Aye! Nice one

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 03 Oct 2023 01:52 collapse

UK is not Europe. I wonder if they’re exempt? 🤔

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bappity@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2023 21:29 next collapse

the petrol ban delay wouldn’t have happened if THE GOVERNMENT WASN’T SO INCOMPETENT!! I don’t see any initiatives to build electric car charger infrastructure everywhere!

CmdrShepard@lemmy.one on 30 Sep 2023 20:25 collapse

I’d have to agree with some of the proposed ban dates here in the US as well. You can’t just mandate something without also building up the infrastructure to support it. 2030 will be here in the blink of an eye but it doesn’t seem like there is any rush to build out public charging stations, mandate chargers in places like apartment complexes, or upgrade the grid to handle this new load. I suspect a lot of these will get pushed back as their dates approach. It’s very easy to say “at ABC point in the future all things must be XYZ.” It’s much more difficult to actually have things ready for that proposed date.

bstix@feddit.dk on 30 Sep 2023 08:52 next collapse

Future policies work like that. The ban won’t have to be enforced, because it’ll be irrelevant before it’s in effect. UK stepping back won’t affect the actual change. Only idiots would invest money in technology that’ll be obsolete in the territory “everywhere worldwide (except UK)”.

Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Sep 2023 14:48 collapse

Reminder:
Nissan cars collect sexual activity and genetics data

mightygalahad@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2023 15:02 next collapse

Wait how?

sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch on 01 Oct 2023 05:37 collapse

I would guess by either having cameras & microphones in and around the car recording you having sex or talkijg about preferences or by installing their app on your phone it might grant permissions to gather all types of data on you

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2023 15:02 next collapse

Like from the backseat?

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org on 30 Sep 2023 15:11 next collapse

You really need a source if you’re going to say this

GreenSkree@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2023 15:16 next collapse

He’s probably talking about the article released by Mozilla a few weeks ago.

…mozilla.org/…/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-pr…

But basically all car manufacturers have absolutely terrible privacy policies.

Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Sep 2023 16:51 collapse
Nima@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2023 16:24 collapse

I knew that Nissan Sentra was the kiss-and-tell type. never should have slept with that car.