Iâm so torn between wanting people to get on the better platform (mastodon) since theyâre already migrating and not wanting to disrupt this beautiful (but way late) exodus from shitter
you donât need to choose. Im on Mastodon and Bluesky. The federated internet is better. Iâm here on god dang Lemmy. Having said that, if you see the Bluesky logo here on Lemmy you will see a half dozen posts of people getting so upset while they type they involuntarily farted
cybersandwich@lemmy.world
on 17 Nov 23:58
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Better is entirely subjective. Mastodon has so much friction for an average person.
Not to mention most servers are filled with tons of âWeLl ACKWalLYâŚâ types or legit weirdos.
Iâve heard it summarized: if you hated Twitter youâll like mastodon. If you liked Twitter, youâll love bluesky.
Mastodon aint for everyone. Id hazard to say itâs not for most people. Itâs also no immune to ads or natural centralization.
It reminds me of that South Park episode about Walmart where they fought off the super store and shopped at the small store until it grew into the super store.
Yeah those are fair points, I donât use any of them so when I say better I mean purely from the perspective of âit canât be ownedâ. Mastodon has the option to just make your own server, or worst case even your own fork of the project, and the other two afaik just donât have either/both so will always be vulnerable to enshittification.
Tesla is expected to sell like crazy because they are one of the only EV carmakers to not be hit full force by tariffs. However, given the public reception of Musk, the car brand may see a long term decline as fewer vehicles are purchased in the US and EU for different reasons. Chinese EVs will sink EU and APAC sales and people donât want to give Elon any of their money if they can help it.
Tesla also doesnât create any new vehicle models or redesign of their initial line up that was created 12 years ago. Heâs coasting on the demand and has no plans for doing anything different. I would expect Tesla to hit hard times after a decade or so.
TL;DR - a small bump in sales followed by a steady fall off before Trump Part Deux is done.
Very few people have had their car purchasing decisions influenced by Musk, thatâs evidenced by Tesla being the top 3 best selling EVs in the U.S. in Q2. Their sales will decrease as competition increases. You could make the argument the lack of competition is what maintains their sales.
This is why theyâre leaning hard on FSD, itâs the only thing that could realistically make them stand out once the EV market matures. Weâll have to wait to see if V13 delivers (was supposed to release in OctoberâŚ) in order to gauge their future as a company.
Finally got around to signing up to Bluesky after avoiding Twitter for almost two decades and, wellâŚI donât get it. The entire thing is basically just Shower Thoughts, Shower Thoughts featuring politics, and the occasional picture of a cat⌠Thatâs it? Really? Itâs like a more boring version of Lemmy and Imgur. Please explain what Iâm missing here cause I lost all interest after about 30 minutes on the site.
Like Lemmy or any social media really, you get out what you put in. If you just follow the generic feed without following anyone, yeah itâs going to suck.
You can make lists, so one for your friends, one for news, one for a hobby. Or you can filter hash tags to really narrow in on a topic. People also make âstarter packsâ of who to follow for any topic you can think of.
This format is also unbeatable for breaking events.
If you avoided Twitter, why would you think youâd like its alternative?
Itâs just a microblog site. Depending on what youâre interested in, it can be good for news, social movements, updates from companies (i followed game devs and would see patch notes and things), keeping up with celebrities or content creators, following topics or hobbies youâre interested in (like you might here), or like when nearly everyone was on Twitter - just seeing what trending things people are talking about. If something is going on, like the Mike tyson Jake Paul fight, seeing everyoneâs takes on it, jokes, memes, can be fun for people or make them feel connected.
Americans are weird. Four years ago, Trump lost the election and he was dumped from Twitter in a heartbeat. Enters Musk and buys Twitter, baptizes it as X. Somehow, Musk achieved the unachievable. No, he didnât make Twitter profitable, he makes it even shittier. Trump gets back to X. Presidential elections happen. Trump wins in a landslide. Bluesky arises. Now Democrats have their own social media club and Republicans, conservative minds, stay in X. Really, if the USA wonât change their electoral system it could separate into two or three different countries at this point.
Except, for now, they will unite against Mexico, Iran and China.
Whatâs up with everyone spamming these ad articles for bluesky?
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br
on 18 Nov 22:28
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Iâm more concerned about the fediverse fanboys⌠/hj
jagged_circle@feddit.nl
on 18 Nov 05:22
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How do I follow someone on bluesky from Lemmy?
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com
on 18 Nov 07:23
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Unfortunately you canât follow users on Lemmy. On Kbin, Mastodon and others, you can follow Bluesky users through Bridgy Fed but they must opt-in first by following @ap.brid.gy (which very few people do)
TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de
on 18 Nov 08:27
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Bluesky uses AT Protocol and Mastodon uses ActivityPub which makes it impossible to federate. Bluesky does allow you to host your own servers though, so you can consider its own fediverse.
beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
on 18 Nov 22:09
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Countdown until Musk sues every single one of them for the crime, no treason of not giving him all their money.
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how much bluesky spam are we gonna get here jfc
Honestly, if you block this one user you get rid of most of it đ. Guyâs on their payroll for sure.
damn.. year old account but yeah they are on the tear with this bluesky spam
Thanks
Huh. Thanks for the pro tip :D
Folks, donât be fooled by another centralized bullshit.
Iâm so torn between wanting people to get on the better platform (mastodon) since theyâre already migrating and not wanting to disrupt this beautiful (but way late) exodus from shitter
you donât need to choose. Im on Mastodon and Bluesky. The federated internet is better. Iâm here on god dang Lemmy. Having said that, if you see the Bluesky logo here on Lemmy you will see a half dozen posts of people getting so upset while they type they involuntarily farted
Better is entirely subjective. Mastodon has so much friction for an average person.
Not to mention most servers are filled with tons of âWeLl ACKWalLYâŚâ types or legit weirdos.
Iâve heard it summarized: if you hated Twitter youâll like mastodon. If you liked Twitter, youâll love bluesky.
Mastodon aint for everyone. Id hazard to say itâs not for most people. Itâs also no immune to ads or natural centralization.
It reminds me of that South Park episode about Walmart where they fought off the super store and shopped at the small store until it grew into the super store.
Yeah those are fair points, I donât use any of them so when I say better I mean purely from the perspective of âit canât be ownedâ. Mastodon has the option to just make your own server, or worst case even your own fork of the project, and the other two afaik just donât have either/both so will always be vulnerable to enshittification.
So nothing changes. So it doesnât matter.
Im curious what US Tesla sales are gonna look like next year
You think some of the right-wingers who decry climate change will adopt EVs via Tesla since Elon sucks up to their guy now?
Yah they might drop $50-60k on cars they donât want just to own the libs
Tesla is expected to sell like crazy because they are one of the only EV carmakers to not be hit full force by tariffs. However, given the public reception of Musk, the car brand may see a long term decline as fewer vehicles are purchased in the US and EU for different reasons. Chinese EVs will sink EU and APAC sales and people donât want to give Elon any of their money if they can help it.
Tesla also doesnât create any new vehicle models or redesign of their initial line up that was created 12 years ago. Heâs coasting on the demand and has no plans for doing anything different. I would expect Tesla to hit hard times after a decade or so.
TL;DR - a small bump in sales followed by a steady fall off before Trump Part Deux is done.
Very few people have had their car purchasing decisions influenced by Musk, thatâs evidenced by Tesla being the top 3 best selling EVs in the U.S. in Q2. Their sales will decrease as competition increases. You could make the argument the lack of competition is what maintains their sales.
This is why theyâre leaning hard on FSD, itâs the only thing that could realistically make them stand out once the EV market matures. Weâll have to wait to see if V13 delivers (was supposed to release in OctoberâŚ) in order to gauge their future as a company.
Ads coming to bsk in 3âŚ2âŚ1âŚ
servers don't run themselves. you either a corpo or decentralization zealot with a support pool...
Finally got around to signing up to Bluesky after avoiding Twitter for almost two decades and, wellâŚI donât get it. The entire thing is basically just Shower Thoughts, Shower Thoughts featuring politics, and the occasional picture of a cat⌠Thatâs it? Really? Itâs like a more boring version of Lemmy and Imgur. Please explain what Iâm missing here cause I lost all interest after about 30 minutes on the site.
Like Lemmy or any social media really, you get out what you put in. If you just follow the generic feed without following anyone, yeah itâs going to suck.
You can make lists, so one for your friends, one for news, one for a hobby. Or you can filter hash tags to really narrow in on a topic. People also make âstarter packsâ of who to follow for any topic you can think of.
This format is also unbeatable for breaking events.
Itâs the same crap as Twitter, I donât get why people ever used it in the first place.
Depends who you follow. It was a great place to learn real time information about BLM protests
If you avoided Twitter, why would you think youâd like its alternative?
Itâs just a microblog site. Depending on what youâre interested in, it can be good for news, social movements, updates from companies (i followed game devs and would see patch notes and things), keeping up with celebrities or content creators, following topics or hobbies youâre interested in (like you might here), or like when nearly everyone was on Twitter - just seeing what trending things people are talking about. If something is going on, like the Mike tyson Jake Paul fight, seeing everyoneâs takes on it, jokes, memes, can be fun for people or make them feel connected.
Because Iâve never used such a website before and thought Iâd give it a try.
Americans are weird. Four years ago, Trump lost the election and he was dumped from Twitter in a heartbeat. Enters Musk and buys Twitter, baptizes it as X. Somehow, Musk achieved the unachievable. No, he didnât make Twitter profitable, he makes it even shittier. Trump gets back to X. Presidential elections happen. Trump wins in a landslide. Bluesky arises. Now Democrats have their own social media club and Republicans, conservative minds, stay in X. Really, if the USA wonât change their electoral system it could separate into two or three different countries at this point.
Except, for now, they will unite against Mexico, Iran and China.
Whatâs up with everyone spamming these ad articles for bluesky?
Iâm more concerned about the fediverse fanboys⌠/hj
How do I follow someone on bluesky from Lemmy?
Unfortunately you canât follow users on Lemmy. On Kbin, Mastodon and others, you can follow Bluesky users through Bridgy Fed but they must opt-in first by following @ap.brid.gy (which very few people do)
Bluesky uses AT Protocol and Mastodon uses ActivityPub which makes it impossible to federate. Bluesky does allow you to host your own servers though, so you can consider its own fediverse.
Countdown until Musk sues every single one of them for the crime, no treason of not giving him all their money.