[JS Required] EU Unveils DNS4EU, a Public DNS Resolver Intended as a European Alternative to Services Like Google’s Public DNS and Cloudflare’s DNS.
(www.joindns4.eu)
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 07 Jun 20:23
https://programming.dev/post/31804788
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 07 Jun 20:23
https://programming.dev/post/31804788
Protective resolution ad-blocking
IP address: 86.54.11.13
IPv6: 2a13:1001::86:54:11:13
DNS over HTTPS: noads.joindns4.eu/dns-query
DNS over TLS: noads.joindns4.eu
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Nice, but a shame it’s not as easy to remember as 8.8.8.8.
Also 1.1.1.1 and 9.9.9.9
Also Quad9 is Swiss which may actually better than EU?
Not sure why would it be better. EU provides strict personal data regulations guarantees
Switzerland has pretty decent privacy laws of its own, why you think Swiss bank accounts are a meme?
Cause they have nazi gold in their banks. Your data is belong to them. Don’t be confused!
It’s not just the nazis. Rich fucks from all over the world keep money there to hide it from authorities. Though I guess that’s changing now.
Switzerland has done a 180 on that. A new amendment would require all VPN services, messaging apps, and social networks to identify and retain user data.
techradar.com/…/cloud-service-infomaniak-steps-up…
This isn’t implemented yet, sadly we also have stupid politicians like the rest of the world.
Oh boy
This confuses the fuck out of me because my VPN in Switzerland using TLS DNS shows Germany as the country in DNS leak tests.
The Swiss DNS provider doesn’t have servers in Switzerland?
Quad9 is a Swiss org, but it operates at hundreds of PoPs inside many different countries (anywhere PCH has a presence), their addresses are anycast so it’ll use whatever the upstream routes/BGP dictate.
Both Quad9 and CloudFlare have the closest DNS for my network, at around 1ms RTT. However CloudFlare doesn’t support ECS, so I use the alternate Quad9 service that does, since it gives me better performance on a number of CDNs.
Right, I understand all that but I still can’t figure out why DNS is going to a 14 Eyes country instead of staying in Switzerland.
If it was a simple geoip lookup that isn’t really reliable wrt anycast addresses (or even addresses in general).
9.9.9.9 for example gets reported as Berkely, CA (US). Which is only partially accurate, for complicated business holding and ASN reasons, but is not representative of what DNS PoP you’re actually using at any given time.
That’s true and that all makes sense. I guess I kind of forget because generally the IP address is physically very near to where I’m testing from.
I just switched to a Swiss DNS resolver regardless. I like Quad9’s malware blocking but it’s more important to me to keep the DNS server in Switzerland (despite it needing to query outside the country regardless).
That’s it, I can’t use it, fuck.
Seems quite easy to remember with a nice jingle, like the emergency number… 🎵0118 999 881 999 119 725🎶. 3🎵.
800 588 2300 Empire today
Any counter indication to using this from Canada?
Don’t think so, will be a tiny bit slower to reach.
In Canada we have CIRA Canadian Shield
Have you looked into their privacy policy, is it alright?
Mullvad DNS has been great also.
I was wondering about some of the fuckery around piracy in the EU atm:
So it will censor stuff as requested by governments
Run your own DNS resolver
only one point - the whole setup is…
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Why? Ao they can block what they deem to be a pirate site? Nope. Run your own Adguard Home.
Not sure about adguard, but unless you are running it with unbound or similar, you still have to point it at a DNS server someone else controls.
With unbound you go straight to the root hint servers.
Didn’t know about unbound. Thanks.
The EU is already trying to block and censor ips via DNS, so I don’t trust this initiative at all, nor, frankly, do I trust the EU as an organization. It should stick to foreign policy, not trying to overrule our national governments to force legislation onto us that we don’t want.
You should read their policy
That guy thinks that the EU is one entity, not consisting of many member states.
Also it sounds like he only read headlines. Otherwise he would know that the EU survelliance bill is a proposal, which any member state can make in a democracy.
Guess the propaganda got to him if he belives more what he reads in a headline instead of what actions the EU actually makes.
The EU is one entity, consisting of several member states. Just like my own country consists of many regions and municipalities with their own elected officials.
Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I’d rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.
Yeah, sure. Go complain about your life in the EU. Must be awful.
Maybe go outside and enjoy your privileged life in Europe.
It is not that living in EU remove our right to criticize what we think is not working.
And currently there is a lot that not work in EU, or that can work way better.
Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU writing their own laws. An EU directive has no effect in Italy unless a law that acknowledges it is enacted. True, we must write a law that implement the directive but it is not an automatism.
This is exactly what I wrote in the comment you replied to, albeit with different wording? Basically the only other options if the nation does not want to comply is: a) suffering punitive actions from the EU indefinitely or until they comply or b) leaving the EU.
I have.
It includes “compliance with EU regulations” which in this case is soon going to involve redirecting and tracking visitors to sites such as thepiratebay.
Fully expect this to be a move to enable them to enforce this via blocking DNS providers that don’t comply with censorship lists, instead directing people to use this.
I don’t need an EU DNS, I already have OpenDNS.
Which are already required, in a form or another, for every EU member, so ?
To make it extra clear. I don’t want to be subjected to these kinds of regulations. They are an infringement upon my personal freedoms and my privacy.
I don’t want these regulations to exist. If they exist, I’d prefer they be unenforceable. If they try to enforce them, I’ll try to circumvent them.
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The internet wants to be free.
This isn’t really on topic but since you mentioned it, the only way for Europe to stay relevant is if we integrate more.
That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.
Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.
No, there are no place where it make no sense. Granted that you need to write a more complex law, but in the end it is nothing impossible.
Just for the record, even in Italy the winter tires are required for the season (but we can just have chains on board and we are good).
Double checking and it doesn’t seem like it? Then again I don’t live in Italy. Here in Sweden you’ll face a fine of ~2000kr (roughly 200€) per tire on your vehicle that is out of spec.
europe-consommateurs.eu/…/winter-tyres-in-europe.…
…and thus it is much simpler to handle these kinds of regulations at a lower level. No need for everyone everywhere to agree, people can have rules that work for them where they live, folks are happier and don’t have to struggle against a system run by bureaucrats so far away they have no idea what reality on the ground is (and they can’t, it’s impossible to account for every scenario centrally). Even on a municipal level certain regulations differ, and that’s completely ok!
Well, I live in Italy and they are required at least in all the northern regions and over a certain altitude in all the others from 15th November to 15th April. Then in some regions these limits are differents as you have seen.
So we in Italy already have a law that consider a different situation for the same rule.
So it is not that difficult, just write a directive that say: “All the member states should make laws that require winter tires in every place it is deemed necessary”.
I don’t really think that making EU more integrated is impossibile
A yes, a public dns resolver funded by taxpayers money and nothing of it is open source…
Sounds like a massive waste of money to me. Just give someone like Mullvad (they already have a DNS service that is open source) that money instead of trying to be another shitty DNS Resolver.
Also the company behind this looks incredibly scummy and their products are mostly buzzword-bullshit. The whole company is based on selling a DNS blocklist for as much money as possible.
Also: www.whalebone.io/aura-for-consumers
That’s sounds a lot like the ISP is implementing some kind of deep network inspection “to protect you from the internet”… aka censoring.