Democratic Senators Team Up With MAGA To Hand Trump A Censorship Machine (www.techdirt.com)
from florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone to technology@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 00:27
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23450444

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WatDabney@sopuli.xyz on 22 Mar 00:48 next collapse

The timing here is what makes this move particularly baffling…

It’s only baffling if you cling to the ever-more-laughable belief that the Democrats are any sort of meaningful opposition.

If you instead simply shift to the ever-more-supported belief that they are in fact essentially oligarchic co-conspirators, then the timing makes perfect sense.

ogmios@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 02:17 collapse

Yea, both Democrats and Republicans have a pretty solid history of voting in lock step on matters of giving themselves more power.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 06:38 collapse

And they expect to control the White House soon. Why not set yourself up with more power for when you get power?

[deleted] on 22 Mar 06:41 next collapse

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Monument@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 Mar 10:17 collapse

The same people who regularly give us uninspiring and insipid candidates to run against demagogues and repeatedly act surprised when they lose ground expect to gain control of a White House where the current president is treating democracy as if it’s an optional hindrance – expect to take power?

If nothing else, I admire their optimism.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 14:14 collapse

Well, Biden won in 2020.

skulblaka@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 21:03 collapse

Only because he was matched up against the most hilariously inept and unqualified opponent in the history of American politics, and even that wasn’t enough to save them twice.

BigMacHole@lemm.ee on 22 Mar 01:58 next collapse

It’s BAFFLING why Democratic Voters are Abandoning the Party. BAFFLING!

PeteZa@lemm.ee on 22 Mar 09:25 collapse

Some people actually believe that a group of wealthy people are working to improve the lives of the working class. That’s the baffling part.

K1nsey6@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 02:54 next collapse

Of course they did, because that’s who Democrats are. They are controlled opposition that only talk about opposing Republicans, in the end they legislate exactly like them.

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 08:39 collapse

something something illusion of choice

tfm@europe.pub on 22 Mar 07:07 next collapse

Always remember: It’s not Democrats vs Republicans. It’s the poor vs rich.

PeteZa@lemm.ee on 22 Mar 09:24 next collapse

The wealthy have unbreakable class solidarity. If only we could be more like them in that aspect.

Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 11:59 next collapse

It’s not even that. Rich and poor both depend on section 230 existing. This is politicians being out of touch morons.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 22 Mar 12:09 next collapse

Two party one system

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 14:46 collapse

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florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Mar 19:22 collapse

No alt text for our blind brothers and sisters? For shame comrade.

For a long time, I thought the Democrats were fighting valiantly but just overwhelmed by the oligarchy and the Republicans. Then I saw that the Democrats keep losing fights they should win and figured they must be just weak and ineffectual. Then I kept seeing them backing off without putting up a fight at all and decided they were gutless cowards. Finally I noticed that enough of them keep voting with the Republicans to always make sure the Republicans more or less win almost every fight, and that they keep starting from a Center position and bargaining to the Right, and eventually after enough of that it became impossible to ignore the only conclusion that actually fits the facts: The Democrats are not over matched, they aren’t weak, they aren’t cowards…they’re complicit.

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 20:48 next collapse

Respect.

Evkob@lemmy.ca on 24 Mar 10:52 collapse

blind brothers and sisters

No gender-neutral language for our non-binary siblings? For shame, comrade.

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 08:38 next collapse

Not surprising, considering how spineless they’ve always been.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 22 Mar 09:01 next collapse

Spine has nothing to do with it, they just don’t work for us.

rayyy@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 12:45 collapse

They‘re all robbers and thieves without a conscience.

They all work for the people who give them money to win elections. Republicans work much harder for the rich, that’s why they have been winning elections with accomplished felons, pedos and liars who will do their bidding at all costs.

freeman@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 09:05 collapse

In this case it’s not mere spinelessness, they were pushing for this before Trump to server the interests of their corporate masters (copyright lobby mostly, though big tech would also benefit).

PeteZa@lemm.ee on 22 Mar 09:22 next collapse

Yes. US democrats are corporate. Not nearly as far to the left as the media would have you believe. I’m not even convinced we have a true left wing.

freeman@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 10:38 collapse

Certainly not in Congress.

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 09:56 next collapse

I wasn’t talking about spinelessness toward Trump (exclusively).

Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 11:46 collapse

Section 230 is supported by the corporate types too since all the big Internet companies would cease to exist without it. This is brain dead boomers not understanding how the Internet works.

slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 13:17 collapse

Nah, they don’t give a shit if it’s gone, because they’ll just pay an army of lawyers to make it go away.

What this does is makes any competition against any established Internet companies impossible for anyone who can’t afford said army of lawyers. That’s why they’re the main driving force behind it. Any new social media startup will swiftly find themselves buried in litigation over the content people post on their site.

It’s far worse than you think.

CosmoNova@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 08:47 next collapse

This goes out to anyone still thinking there are some good people among the very rich. They‘re all robbers and thieves without a conscience.

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 03:04 collapse

“We need to court the good billionaires.”

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Mar 13:30 next collapse

But all the Dems on Lemmy have assured me that they were always the best hope for fighting Trump and fascism! Surely they wouldn’t have all been full of shit!

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 03:03 collapse

Surely they’d never lie about how their favorite sports them was the good guys! They would never approve of Trump’s cabinet picks, give him what he wants, not use the filibuster or abolish it so Republicans get what they want, publicly lie about voting no and then swapping votes last minute to enable Trump’s Enabling Acts.

Sure am glad I voted blue no matter who, it’s clearly a better choice when the constitution is being bipartisanly ripped, like it was with the Snowden leaks and USA PATRIOT Act.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 14:27 collapse

Isn’t this a death knell for Big Social Media?

ryper@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 16:03 collapse

No, because they can afford the legal fees. It will be worst for smaller sites. From the article:

With Section 230, if a website (or a user!) wants to defend its right to keep content up (or take it down), winning such a case typically costs around $100,000. Without those protections, even if you’d ultimately win on First Amendment grounds, you’re looking at about $2 million in legal fees. For Meta or Google, that’s a rounding error. For a small news site or blog, it’s potentially fatal. And this includes users who simply forward an email or retweet something they saw. Section 230 protects them as well, but without it, they’re at the whims of legal threats.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 19:54 next collapse

True but Big Social would have many orders of magnitude more lawsuits to deal with. I guess it might still not matter.

Well, luckily many large Lemmy instances are outside the US. 😂

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Mar 04:53 collapse

it’s already happening in the UK with the online safety bill