stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
on 13 Apr 2024 04:24
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I fucking love seeing this stuff happen. We’ve got a really powerful new material to work with here but we need to temper it and get it right or we will only make things worse.
The cat is out of the bag. Either we get it right and have a way to change tides against corps with new found power, or we let it slip and give another jewel away to be locked up in private treasure hoardes
It’s a great example that things don’t have to happen for the sole benefit of the new technology owner. We’ve been conditioned for at least half a century that we lose our jobs if that makes more money for the corporation and that this is “the market.” Except labor is also a market participant and labor organizing plays a similar role in it as forming a corporation instead of doing business as an individual. People need to see these examples and hopefully that’s gonna crack the brainwashing that they don’t have a say about their jobs in the businesses they work for.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Apr 2024 04:35
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…except for voice actors, who conveniently got a carve-out.
kromem@lemmy.world
on 13 Apr 2024 05:49
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Translation: “The musicians on the Titanic used their collective bargaining to ensure that they would have fair pay and terms for the foreseeable future. Oh look, a pretty iceberg.”
The idea that the current status quo is going to last even five years is laughable.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Apr 2024 06:26
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Anyone consuming AI-generated media deserves whatever brain rot it gives them, lmao.
jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de
on 13 Apr 2024 06:46
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I can now train a generative voice on my own voice and have it sing along to my own generative music.
A few more tweaks to make it consistently off key and it will be near indistinguishable! I will be able to torture not just my children, but my great-grandchildren, far into the future.
What an age.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Apr 2024 06:55
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Why would they bother listening to something you didn’t even bother making? At least with selfies or stupid internet posts that’s actually something you did.
cooljacob204@kbin.social
on 13 Apr 2024 13:21
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Because the source of entertainment matters less then you think.
Plenty of artists are using ai to augment their workflow and I believe that will be the future for art.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Apr 2024 17:52
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That might work for clip art nobody is looking at particularly hard, but the shit is just obvious and ugly for anything else.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
on 14 Apr 2024 03:18
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CluckN@lemmy.world
on 13 Apr 2024 13:47
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My first thought when I watched the Halo TV show was that these writers need to get paid more.
JDPoZ@lemmy.world
on 13 Apr 2024 18:21
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That was your first thought watching the Halo show? 😅 I mean… yeah that’s important but uhhhh… I’m not ashamed to admit that wasn’t probably my first thought.
people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org
on 14 Apr 2024 03:26
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Writers are people, not AI that improves its output quality the more money (hardware) you throw at it. The writers of the Halo TV show should have just been replaced with an entirely new team that actually understood the source.
callouscomic@lemm.ee
on 13 Apr 2024 13:48
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Unless I’m mistaken, this was more about writers not wanting the studio to be able to say “we had an ai generated a script. We’ll pay you a day to do a brief editing pass.”
The contract the Guild secured in September set a historic precedent: It is up to the writers whether and how they use generative AI as a tool to assist and complement—not replace—them. Ultimately, if generative AI is used, the contract stipulates that writers get full credit and compensation.
So, yeah. It’s more about ensuring that a human person in the writers’ guild gets credited as a writer, even if they or someone else uses an ai as a tool in the process.
Chickenstalker@lemmy.world
on 14 Apr 2024 07:20
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A century ago, workers in the wool industry rioted against the spinning jenny. In the end, they were defeated. So it will be for the writers et al. The wheel turns. Ride it or get run over.
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I fucking love seeing this stuff happen. We’ve got a really powerful new material to work with here but we need to temper it and get it right or we will only make things worse.
The cat is out of the bag. Either we get it right and have a way to change tides against corps with new found power, or we let it slip and give another jewel away to be locked up in private treasure hoardes
It’s a great example that things don’t have to happen for the sole benefit of the new technology owner. We’ve been conditioned for at least half a century that we lose our jobs if that makes more money for the corporation and that this is “the market.” Except labor is also a market participant and labor organizing plays a similar role in it as forming a corporation instead of doing business as an individual. People need to see these examples and hopefully that’s gonna crack the brainwashing that they don’t have a say about their jobs in the businesses they work for.
…except for voice actors, who conveniently got a carve-out.
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This is the sort of thing that industrial unionism was meant to combat. Craft unionism divides the workers.
That girl got way too much shit on their laptop.
She’s got as much as she wants, which is the right amount.
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Translation: “The musicians on the Titanic used their collective bargaining to ensure that they would have fair pay and terms for the foreseeable future. Oh look, a pretty iceberg.”
The idea that the current status quo is going to last even five years is laughable.
Anyone consuming AI-generated media deserves whatever brain rot it gives them, lmao.
I can now train a generative voice on my own voice and have it sing along to my own generative music.
A few more tweaks to make it consistently off key and it will be near indistinguishable! I will be able to torture not just my children, but my great-grandchildren, far into the future.
What an age.
Why would they bother listening to something you didn’t even bother making? At least with selfies or stupid internet posts that’s actually something you did.
Because the source of entertainment matters less then you think.
Plenty of artists are using ai to augment their workflow and I believe that will be the future for art.
That might work for clip art nobody is looking at particularly hard, but the shit is just obvious and ugly for anything else.
I’m already cynical of how much human written media is purposeless. We’re entering Reverse Turing Test territory. If your work is indiscernible from AI, are you really human? Think of all those pop stars that can’t interview worth a damn.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Think of all those pop stars that can’t interview worth a damn.
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My first thought when I watched the Halo TV show was that these writers need to get paid more.
That was your first thought watching the Halo show? 😅 I mean… yeah that’s important but uhhhh… I’m not ashamed to admit that wasn’t probably my first thought.
Writers are people, not AI that improves its output quality the more money (hardware) you throw at it. The writers of the Halo TV show should have just been replaced with an entirely new team that actually understood the source.
Watch for the news of writers caught using AI.
That’s allowed, no?
Unless I’m mistaken, this was more about writers not wanting the studio to be able to say “we had an ai generated a script. We’ll pay you a day to do a brief editing pass.”
Quoting the linked article:
So, yeah. It’s more about ensuring that a human person in the writers’ guild gets credited as a writer, even if they or someone else uses an ai as a tool in the process.
A century ago, workers in the wool industry rioted against the spinning jenny. In the end, they were defeated. So it will be for the writers et al. The wheel turns. Ride it or get run over.