To GitHubâs credit, when rightsholders allege violations of the DMCAâs anti-circumvention provisions, GitHub conducts its own assessment. If there is no basis for a claim, GitHub sometimes finds other copyright-related grounds, but here there is no pushback. Thatâs usually a sign of a complaint that stands up under intense scrutiny.
Codeberg is great, but it is hosted in Germany, and subject to their laws. AFAIK, Germany has laws against tools for âcircumventing copy protectionâ, or âhackingâ.
So I am not sure that they can provide a save haven for tools, where some lawyer could argue these points successfully in front of a court.
Also has the highest rate of website take-downs/bans. To be fair: mostly revenge ânaked pictures of my exâ websites. But yeah. Piracy + Germany = not good. Youâd rather turn to the Netherlands for that.
Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 07:42
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There needs to be a widespread p2p solution for opensource projects before its too late. I have lost count of all the amazing stuff that has been gravity bombed from orbit.
There also needs to be a way for authors to submit things anonymously too and maybe sign their things with cryptographic keys to ID it. How many times has a company had a court order someone to cease and desist or simply acquire somebodyâs work?
Itâs not always takedowns either, just the developer deciding to nuke their own repos. Real annoying, although itâs making me more vigilant about forking/mirroring important repos.
Thatâs called Git and itâs been around longer than GitHub. There is also Usenet which by now is mostly dead. People fell for centralized alternatives. Oops :)
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 29 Apr 08:45
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Right? Git is literally decentralized. If you choose to use GitHub as a centralized Git service, thatâs on you.
(I will caveat this by saying we moved 2009scape off GitHub and the number of new contributors probably got cut in half. Mainstream services have a lot more eyes)
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Apr 11:50
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How come Git is decentralized?
Doesnt it need a central component so I can pull your changes?
Edit: Thanks to all that explained it to me :)
FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 Apr 11:54
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You can have arbitrarily many git âremotesâ: GitHub, gitlab, your own custom forge, etcâŚ
Git a cmd tool only. Your can remote wherever you like.
Changes can come from anywhere. The Linux kernel itself doesnât use any central repository like Github, itâs instead done via emailing patches that are eventually merged into the mainline kernel repository managed by Linus.
It is 100% decentralized.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Apr 21:22
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mainline kernel repository managed by Linus.
It is 100% decentralized.
But⌠How does that work? The code has to be stored somewhereâŚ
Itâs just for the âlast mileâ where code gets packaged up into releases. Thereâs still thousands of developers that have all of the code on their machines as well, itâs just that their local repos arenât the ones that end up in the hands of end users.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de
on 29 Apr 17:44
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Fundamentally, the repository you have on GitHub is the same thing as the repository you have on your computer when you clone it. Pulling and pushing are shorthands for synchronizing commits between the two repositories, but you could also synchronize them directly with somebody else who cloned the repository. As somebody mentioned, you can also just host the same repository on two servers, and push to both of them.
The issue is that git doesnât include convenient features like issues, pull requests, CI, wikis, etc., and by extensions, those arenât included in your local repository, so if GitHub takes them down, you donât have a copy.
An extra fun fact is that git can be considered a blockchain. Itâs a distributed ledger of immutable commits, each one representing a change in state relative to the previous one. Everybody who clones a repository gets a copy of its entire history and fast forwards through the changes to calculate the current state.
But to push/pull youâd in theory need to port forward your git server/workstation, right?
thevoidzero@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 21:17
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Git works through ssh. So you need the same system as sshing into your machine. You just make a user group git and then let git and ssh handle things. And if you donât need people to push to your repo, then itâs a lot easier as itâs now similar to hosting a website/file server.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de
on 30 Apr 07:25
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Git exposes a lot of internals through odd commands, so I suspect you could manage synchronization by sending changes over email or something.
Bonus fun fact: thereâs a git bundle command that âdumpsâ the repository into a single file, that can be interacted with as a remote. So if youâre ever working with a local repository and want to put it on a server over ssh or something like that, you can just create a bundle, scp it over, and clone from that on the server.
LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
on 29 Apr 17:03
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2009scape is wonderful for those like me who need to scratch that RuneScape itch without a subscription. The fact I can play it off of a USB is testament to itself how incredibly awesome you guys are. Thank you for the project, sincerely. :')
Oh sorry, totally forgot, we blocked UK users from accessing the website to avoid a Jagex lawsuit. If youâre on Linux you can still play the game via Flatpak
Git is, but it has no process of discovery or hosting by itself. Those are needed to efficiently share open source software to large numbers of people.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Apr 11:49
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rottingleaf@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 12:29
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All you need for this is a global overlay network and a global DNS untied from physical infrastructure. Cryptographic identities (hash of pubkey will do) instead of IP addresses (because NATs are PITA and too many people use mobile devices behind big bad NATs), and finding (in something like Kademlia) records signed by authority you yourself chose to trust instead of asking DNS.
Then come encryption and dynamic routing and synchronization of published states.
One can have some kind of Kademlia for discovery of projects too, but on the next level.
I2P comes close, but itâs more focused on anonymity.
OK, Iâm not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 16:24
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OK, Iâm not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.
yeah it seems you forgot what you wanted to say midway.
to extend on it, I2P, Tor and other mixnets provide the only safe way currently to host projects that others donât like, because such sites cannot be taken down. thatâs both a blessing and a curse
I wanted to say something about easily hosting searchable repositories, and solving a few of the problems because of which the Web as it exists still has users.
ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 15:42
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I found radicle.xyz but Iâve never used this technology before. Maybe someone can shed some light?
Canada might start ignoring DMCA as a whole if the idiots in my government keep harassing them. Maybe thatâll piss off Hollywood and friends in a useful wayâŚ
(Just ignore me laugh weeping at the prospect that billionaires stabbing each other in the back is the only thing I can look forward to in my country now)
doodledup@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 09:44
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The mentioned repositories enable and encourage criminal behavior. And itâs quiet intentional. Itâs because of piracy that we have DRM in the first place. The audacity now of pirates to wine about them not getting what they want like the entire world revolves just around them.
Format-shifting and time-shifting your legally acquired and licensed media is not illegal. If the DRM is preventing someone from doing that then it is within their rights to remove the DRM. Recall that not everyone lives in a country subject to the draconian DMCA law.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk
on 29 Apr 10:01
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Because that was the intended use case for this repository.
Donât forget to wipe your nose. You got a little shit there stuck there from all the corporate ass licking.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 13:13
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Donât people buy stuff on OF, more than just a sub? Is it easily available for download in a common file format or is access stuck on the website even though you bought it?
I agree that straight piracy of content is bad.
Piracy is primarily a service problem, TV and movie piracy was down in the mid 2010s until all the streaming services divided.
Music piracy is basically gone thanks to early iTunes and even more so with todayâs streaming services.
OF piracy will always be a thing because people want their free porn and the parasocial relationship they donât get on the regular free sites.
If corporations refuse to just sell us the file and can randomly revoke access or change the content (like Amazonâs been doing with book), then the community will find ways to strip out the DRM and other protections just to preserve the content they bought.
I donât have a problem with github removing of projects that aim to circumvent purchasing content, but projects that simply âunlockâ purchased content should be allowed to thrive.
Edit: I should add, if corporations canât be bothered to respect what the word buy means, why I should I bother to provide them money? morality is a two way street, if one side is dishonest and shady, do they really have a right to whine when others steal from them?
Edit 2: in case it wasnât clear the âdishonest and shadyâ one is the corporations. Its to the point were I pretty much only pay creators directly (patreon, etc) where I know good chunk of my money goes to the artist not the publisher/middle man. If Iâm buying a movie or something its either a DVD or getting screen caped on the first watch for archival purposes.
Edit: I should add, if corporations canât be bothered to respect what the word buy means, why I should I bother to provide them money? morality is a two way street, if one side is dishonest and shady, do they really have a right to whine when others steal from them?
Ah, yes, remember all that tone of honesty and seriousness from companies in the 00s against bad, bad pirates, and also scorn at FOSS, like those amateur toys, we make better things? And now from time to time those âserious professionalâ programs from then are found to contain GPL violations. Or how Sony put a virus on music CDs.
TBH, there was a time when things were better with actually buying software and music and such. And probably the surge of piracy was first.
But somehow that doesnât hurt Steam. Quoting GN - because piracy is a service problem. People generally pirate what they canât comfortably buy. There were games Iâve never seen in stores in my childhood (no official localization, and by the time I got interested in them people selling bootleg discs in subway road crossings were coming out of fashion here). Piracy was the way I got them.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 15:14
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Piracy will always be a problem, someone is always looking for the free route. The paid routes used to be guarantees of availability, malware free, and a quality copy.
Now its almost the opposite, a pirated file is always available, usually malware free and higher resolution than whatever the data mining services feel like feeding you.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 16:44
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Itâs very simple, one should legally target whatâs advertised as selling when itâs not really selling. Heavily. Like fraud. Like obvious crime.
Right. Letâs legalize nukes and bio-weapons for the average Joe. Iâm sure someone is going to find a legitimate use for them that doesnât involve using them as a weapon. There is always someone who uses them in a fair way. So itâs perfectly justified to allow them as they basically compare to oxygen now.
Are you serious right now? You canât actually believe ordinary people will go out of their way to visit some random Github repository just to remove the DRM for their convenience. I guarantee you that 100% of contributers and users of that repo are doing piracy.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 16:44
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oh youâre very confidently wrong, I very much will, you corporate bootlicker
HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Apr 12:13
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Baseless (and also wrong) assumption that piracy is responsible for by any means significant monetary losses aside, there are other reasons for bypassing that DRM bullshit. Like, off the top of my head:
archiving â when you donât have a local copy of a piece of content, it can be changed or deleted at any time;
ability to access stuff on a wider range of devices â I want to be able watch my favorite coomtent creator in full resolution on my phone that has only L3 and quite outdated version of widevine without installing proprietary crapp, so what;
bypassing bullshit restrictions â not sure if onlyfans in particular does that, but we have Netflix, for example, that would tell you to fuck off when youâre not watching from home be it VPN or an actually different location when traveling.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 13:48
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They know all that. They want you to be able to only consume content the exact they they publish it.
That simplifies market analysis, removes the dilemma of supporting or not supporting some other way users want, and ideally selling the same thing a few times.
They want you to be able to only consume content the exact they they publish it.
And they have every right to do so. If you like it or not. You donât own and have not created the protected content. On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
rottingleaf@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 16:38
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On the basis of having bought it. If they havenât sold it but made such an impression, then theyâve committed a crime.
When you are buying a cure against all problems with miniscule text saying itâs just a metaphor, the seller is committing a crime. Itâs the same here.
Morally. Regardless of how courts interpret this right now. That feature that courts and practice officially do not equal morality and thus we can decide differently this time, if we can provide an explanation, is the main advantage of English legal system and those descended from it over others.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 16:43
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On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
they have literally given 3 of such bases
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 16:45
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On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
Btw, you donât need to use whatever service you donât own if you disagree with their practices. DRM is shit. But youâre not in any position to elevate yourself above that. You donât own the services and you have not contributed in creating the protected content. You have no right to decide anything.
HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Apr 16:51
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Agreed to disagree then. IMO, if a company thinks itâs OK to throw me over the dick hiding behind being afraid of shadows, deny me access to legally obtained content on my devices, walk back on previous deals, and so on, then I have no problem with getting unrestricted access to stuff they decided I donât technically own. Fuck the fucker, simple as that.
By subscribing you agree to a contract. The company is doing no shitty practice since everything is black and white in the contract. You just donât like the contract. But the consequence should be to not sign it.
Even buying physical media, they claim you still donât own the content, are only leasing it. Itâs all bullshit to charge more and give us less. Stop defending this practice of eroding consumer rights
Nobody is eroding consumer rights. The consumer rights havenât changed. Maybe itâs time to change that. Change legislation and stop pirating like monkeys.
Accessing content I paid for isnât pirating. And corporations have been working in eroding our ownership of the things we pay for years now. You can stop pretending they havenât
You payed for accessing the content the way itâs described in the ToS. I expect you havenât read the ToS. Itâs a contract. Violating that contract is piracy. There is no argueing about that. If you think piracy is morally okey then thatâs your thing and your opinion that I respect. But itâs definitely piracy.
Nah. They changed the game. It didnât used to be like that. You bought a physical copy, you owned that copy. Now theyâve added some bullshit âitâs actually a lease and we can review access at any time we want, fuck consumerâ language. Stop defending this nonsense.
All that anti repair garbage going in, also. And game console Companies suing you for modifying your own machine.
nodiratime@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 06:34
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The company is doing no shitty practice since everything is black and white in the contract.
The contract states you donât own it and they can take it away any time. So why are you stupid to sign it? Buy a physical book if you donât like it. But there is no justification for piracy like âI donât get exactly what I want so I now decide that I have the moral right to do whatever I want with indefinitely.â
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Apr 04:55
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Youâre working for the same corpos and youâre getting payed. Youâre part of the system and youâre profiting off it. We get rid of DRM tomorrow but you get a 20% salary reduction. Would you do it? I think you wouldnât. So why would they? You guys are pretentious and canât think past the simplest complexities of an economic system.
The only jobs Iâve ever had were teaching and nursing, both paid by the country I live in, not some private entity. I donât even own a car or a TV, nor do I live in the US for that matter.
Get your head out of your ass and realise thereâs more to life than fucking money. I was born poor and will die poor, but I donât give a shit because I at least know I helped some people along the way.
Jfc, the bubble some live in. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I guess youâre not even capable of that, are ya?
Its crazy that we canât agree on any international rules except the ones that protect IP hoarding
ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 15:40
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I was wondering why these types of open source projects always push to Github, despite the latter always complying with DMCA. (I get that Github provides discoverabilty features, but it just isnât worth it to have all your work taken down).
On a similar note, has anyone tried out radicle.xyz? Itâs supposed to actually make use of gitâs peer to peer nature (and not the client server model that everyone adopts with git) and ideally provide discoverability features.
The said Iâve only read the faq and havenât actually tried it myself. Basically Iâm wondering if itâs worth doing a deep dive on this technology
Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Apr 02:08
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A lot of my favorite open source android apps have been switching to CodeBerg. Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram, unfortunately. That aside, CodeBerg is great and hopefully it will gain even more traction soon.
Itâs nice that Obtainium supports CodeBerg, too. I have a few must-have apps that I like to keep up to date straight from their repositories.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
on 30 Apr 08:00
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Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram
Lol, its just my manga/anime apps. You can still find some of the repositories on github, but they moved all updates to TG. They also request users to not put the app name on any social media to avoid what happened to Tachiyomi.
Thereâs a large sweep going on with anime piracy atm, too. Github has been obliterating apps left and right.
CodeBerg is a public instance of Forgejo. You can run your own local instance of Forgejo.
At some point theyâll have federation working so youâll be able to use your home instance of Forgejo to interact with other projects/instances.
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 Apr 19:04
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Ngl if you pirate indie porn you are scum. Most people who make it arenât well off.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Apr 20:11
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Like Katy Perry???
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 Apr 21:23
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Donât be a bell end
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 00:34
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Is this a pirating tool or a tool for downloading local copies of what you did pay for? I know Fansly has weird settings where you lose access to stuff you paid for if you change your tier or need to lapse your membership for a bit. I stopped paying anyone when the archiving tool I used stopped working.
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hehe
Curious to know what this email conversation looks like. đż
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I mean, âfuck you OnlyFansâ seems correct phrasing
git clone this before it gets taken down
Bad pattern.
The moment when GitHub was bought by M$, the risk of such behavior started.
Codeberg exists. But no people still have to just flock to corporate bullshit and then be surprised when they pull a corporate bullshit.
Codeberg is great, but it is hosted in Germany, and subject to their laws. AFAIK, Germany has laws against tools for âcircumventing copy protectionâ, or âhackingâ.
So I am not sure that they can provide a save haven for tools, where some lawyer could argue these points successfully in front of a court.
ActivityPub is amazing for censorship because anything that gets posted to one instance gets immediately archived thousands of times over.
Also has the highest rate of website take-downs/bans. To be fair: mostly revenge ânaked pictures of my exâ websites. But yeah. Piracy + Germany = not good. Youâd rather turn to the Netherlands for that.
There needs to be a widespread p2p solution for opensource projects before its too late. I have lost count of all the amazing stuff that has been gravity bombed from orbit.
There also needs to be a way for authors to submit things anonymously too and maybe sign their things with cryptographic keys to ID it. How many times has a company had a court order someone to cease and desist or simply acquire somebodyâs work?
Itâs not always takedowns either, just the developer deciding to nuke their own repos. Real annoying, although itâs making me more vigilant about forking/mirroring important repos.
Thatâs called Git and itâs been around longer than GitHub. There is also Usenet which by now is mostly dead. People fell for centralized alternatives. Oops :)
Right? Git is literally decentralized. If you choose to use GitHub as a centralized Git service, thatâs on you.
(I will caveat this by saying we moved 2009scape off GitHub and the number of new contributors probably got cut in half. Mainstream services have a lot more eyes)
How come Git is decentralized?
Doesnt it need a central component so I can pull your changes?
Edit: Thanks to all that explained it to me :)
You can have arbitrarily many git âremotesâ: GitHub, gitlab, your own custom forge, etcâŚ
Git a cmd tool only. Your can remote wherever you like.
Changes can come from anywhere. The Linux kernel itself doesnât use any central repository like Github, itâs instead done via emailing patches that are eventually merged into the mainline kernel repository managed by Linus.
It is 100% decentralized.
But⌠How does that work? The code has to be stored somewhereâŚ
The code is replicated by everyone who works on it, and on various public and private servers, so you might say itâs stored everywhere.
âŚI need to watch a video on this đ
en.wikipedia.org/âŚ/Distributed_version_control
Linus memorises it.
Sounds like itâs centralized around LinusâŚ
Itâs just for the âlast mileâ where code gets packaged up into releases. Thereâs still thousands of developers that have all of the code on their machines as well, itâs just that their local repos arenât the ones that end up in the hands of end users.
Fundamentally, the repository you have on GitHub is the same thing as the repository you have on your computer when you clone it. Pulling and pushing are shorthands for synchronizing commits between the two repositories, but you could also synchronize them directly with somebody else who cloned the repository. As somebody mentioned, you can also just host the same repository on two servers, and push to both of them.
The issue is that git doesnât include convenient features like issues, pull requests, CI, wikis, etc., and by extensions, those arenât included in your local repository, so if GitHub takes them down, you donât have a copy.
An extra fun fact is that git can be considered a blockchain. Itâs a distributed ledger of immutable commits, each one representing a change in state relative to the previous one. Everybody who clones a repository gets a copy of its entire history and fast forwards through the changes to calculate the current state.
But to push/pull youâd in theory need to port forward your git server/workstation, right?
Git works through ssh. So you need the same system as sshing into your machine. You just make a user group git and then let git and ssh handle things. And if you donât need people to push to your repo, then itâs a lot easier as itâs now similar to hosting a website/file server.
Git exposes a lot of internals through odd commands, so I suspect you could manage synchronization by sending changes over email or something.
Bonus fun fact: thereâs a
git bundlecommand that âdumpsâ the repository into a single file, that can be interacted with as a remote. So if youâre ever working with a local repository and want to put it on a server over ssh or something like that, you can just create a bundle, scp it over, and clone from that on the server.2009scape is wonderful for those like me who need to scratch that RuneScape itch without a subscription. The fact I can play it off of a USB is testament to itself how incredibly awesome you guys are. Thank you for the project, sincerely. :')
I tried to follow that link and it seems Cloudflare blocked me. Donât suppose you know who Iâd need to talk to to resolve that would you?
Did Cloudflare not let you pass with a captcha?
Nope, just straight up blocked <img alt="" src="https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/e726bddf-c0d6-4164-9374-07808bacd439.webp">
Oh sorry, totally forgot, we blocked UK users from accessing the website to avoid a Jagex lawsuit. If youâre on Linux you can still play the game via Flatpak
Oh okay, fair enough. Out of interest, what does Jagex have against the Brits?
Theyâre based there, and an international lawsuit is magnitudes more expensive so itâs unlikely theyâll do one.
Weâll probably unblock the UK from seeing the website though, our friends (i.e 2004.lostcity.rs) havenât blocked the UK and are doing great
Wow, TIL, thanks for the info!
Git is, but it has no process of discovery or hosting by itself. Those are needed to efficiently share open source software to large numbers of people.
Youâd think Usenet is dead.
Itâs not.
Oh boy itâs not! But mainly for binaries
git is clearly not p2p in the needed level or else we wouldnât have faced this problem
Host a git-style repo on IPFS
Open-source projects are quiet safe on Github. Maybe donât push illegal code? Seems pretty obvious to me.
Do you forget who determines what is illegal?
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All you need for this is a global overlay network and a global DNS untied from physical infrastructure. Cryptographic identities (hash of pubkey will do) instead of IP addresses (because NATs are PITA and too many people use mobile devices behind big bad NATs), and finding (in something like Kademlia) records signed by authority you yourself chose to trust instead of asking DNS.
Then come encryption and dynamic routing and synchronization of published states.
One can have some kind of Kademlia for discovery of projects too, but on the next level.
I2P comes close, but itâs more focused on anonymity.
OK, Iâm not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.
yeah it seems you forgot what you wanted to say midway.
to extend on it, I2P, Tor and other mixnets provide the only safe way currently to host projects that others donât like, because such sites cannot be taken down. thatâs both a blessing and a curse
I wanted to say something about easily hosting searchable repositories, and solving a few of the problems because of which the Web as it exists still has users.
I found radicle.xyz but Iâve never used this technology before. Maybe someone can shed some light?
I2p has a git service
Please streisand it.
Iâve mirrored it to my own git server too git.ngram.ca/mirrors/cdrm-project I will ignore DCMAs because I (and the server) donât live in the USA.
Canada might start ignoring DMCA as a whole if the idiots in my government keep harassing them. Maybe thatâll piss off Hollywood and friends in a useful wayâŚ
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/e30fcb8a-4267-4897-b83f-89674a04478c.gif">
(Just ignore me laugh weeping at the prospect that billionaires stabbing each other in the back is the only thing I can look forward to in my country now)
The mentioned repositories enable and encourage criminal behavior. And itâs quiet intentional. Itâs because of piracy that we have DRM in the first place. The audacity now of pirates to wine about them not getting what they want like the entire world revolves just around them.
Format-shifting and time-shifting your legally acquired and licensed media is not illegal. If the DRM is preventing someone from doing that then it is within their rights to remove the DRM. Recall that not everyone lives in a country subject to the draconian DMCA law.
Because that was the intended use case for this repository.
Donât forget to wipe your nose. You got a little shit there stuck there from all the corporate ass licking.
Donât people buy stuff on OF, more than just a sub? Is it easily available for download in a common file format or is access stuck on the website even though you bought it?
I agree that straight piracy of content is bad. Piracy is primarily a service problem, TV and movie piracy was down in the mid 2010s until all the streaming services divided. Music piracy is basically gone thanks to early iTunes and even more so with todayâs streaming services. OF piracy will always be a thing because people want their free porn and the parasocial relationship they donât get on the regular free sites.
If corporations refuse to just sell us the file and can randomly revoke access or change the content (like Amazonâs been doing with book), then the community will find ways to strip out the DRM and other protections just to preserve the content they bought.
I donât have a problem with github removing of projects that aim to circumvent purchasing content, but projects that simply âunlockâ purchased content should be allowed to thrive.
Edit: I should add, if corporations canât be bothered to respect what the word buy means, why I should I bother to provide them money? morality is a two way street, if one side is dishonest and shady, do they really have a right to whine when others steal from them?
Edit 2: in case it wasnât clear the âdishonest and shadyâ one is the corporations. Its to the point were I pretty much only pay creators directly (patreon, etc) where I know good chunk of my money goes to the artist not the publisher/middle man. If Iâm buying a movie or something its either a DVD or getting screen caped on the first watch for archival purposes.
Ah, yes, remember all that tone of honesty and seriousness from companies in the 00s against bad, bad pirates, and also scorn at FOSS, like those amateur toys, we make better things? And now from time to time those âserious professionalâ programs from then are found to contain GPL violations. Or how Sony put a virus on music CDs.
TBH, there was a time when things were better with actually buying software and music and such. And probably the surge of piracy was first.
But somehow that doesnât hurt Steam. Quoting GN - because piracy is a service problem. People generally pirate what they canât comfortably buy. There were games Iâve never seen in stores in my childhood (no official localization, and by the time I got interested in them people selling bootleg discs in subway road crossings were coming out of fashion here). Piracy was the way I got them.
Piracy will always be a problem, someone is always looking for the free route. The paid routes used to be guarantees of availability, malware free, and a quality copy. Now its almost the opposite, a pirated file is always available, usually malware free and higher resolution than whatever the data mining services feel like feeding you.
Itâs very simple, one should legally target whatâs advertised as selling when itâs not really selling. Heavily. Like fraud. Like obvious crime.
That will improve the situation.
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Pirates breathe air, therefore oxygen is enabling copyright infringement
Right. Letâs legalize nukes and bio-weapons for the average Joe. Iâm sure someone is going to find a legitimate use for them that doesnât involve using them as a weapon. There is always someone who uses them in a fair way. So itâs perfectly justified to allow them as they basically compare to oxygen now.
Logic checks out?
Are you serious right now? You canât actually believe ordinary people will go out of their way to visit some random Github repository just to remove the DRM for their convenience. I guarantee you that 100% of contributers and users of that repo are doing piracy.
oh youâre very confidently wrong, I very much will, you corporate bootlicker
Baseless (and also wrong) assumption that piracy is responsible for by any means significant monetary losses aside, there are other reasons for bypassing that DRM bullshit. Like, off the top of my head:
They know all that. They want you to be able to only consume content the exact they they publish it.
That simplifies market analysis, removes the dilemma of supporting or not supporting some other way users want, and ideally selling the same thing a few times.
And they have every right to do so. If you like it or not. You donât own and have not created the protected content. On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
On the basis of having bought it. If they havenât sold it but made such an impression, then theyâve committed a crime.
When you are buying a cure against all problems with miniscule text saying itâs just a metaphor, the seller is committing a crime. Itâs the same here.
Morally. Regardless of how courts interpret this right now. That feature that courts and practice officially do not equal morality and thus we can decide differently this time, if we can provide an explanation, is the main advantage of English legal system and those descended from it over others.
they have literally given 3 of such bases
they have literally given 3 of such bases
morally, no. cartoon mouse says, yes.
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Also baseless assumptions.
Btw, you donât need to use whatever service you donât own if you disagree with their practices. DRM is shit. But youâre not in any position to elevate yourself above that. You donât own the services and you have not contributed in creating the protected content. You have no right to decide anything.
Agreed to disagree then. IMO, if a company thinks itâs OK to throw me over the dick hiding behind being afraid of shadows, deny me access to legally obtained content on my devices, walk back on previous deals, and so on, then I have no problem with getting unrestricted access to stuff they decided I donât technically own. Fuck the fucker, simple as that.
By subscribing you agree to a contract. The company is doing no shitty practice since everything is black and white in the contract. You just donât like the contract. But the consequence should be to not sign it.
Even buying physical media, they claim you still donât own the content, are only leasing it. Itâs all bullshit to charge more and give us less. Stop defending this practice of eroding consumer rights
Nobody is eroding consumer rights. The consumer rights havenât changed. Maybe itâs time to change that. Change legislation and stop pirating like monkeys.
Accessing content I paid for isnât pirating. And corporations have been working in eroding our ownership of the things we pay for years now. You can stop pretending they havenât
You payed for accessing the content the way itâs described in the ToS. I expect you havenât read the ToS. Itâs a contract. Violating that contract is piracy. There is no argueing about that. If you think piracy is morally okey then thatâs your thing and your opinion that I respect. But itâs definitely piracy.
Nah. They changed the game. It didnât used to be like that. You bought a physical copy, you owned that copy. Now theyâve added some bullshit âitâs actually a lease and we can review access at any time we want, fuck consumerâ language. Stop defending this nonsense.
All that anti repair garbage going in, also. And game console Companies suing you for modifying your own machine.
Unconscionability says otherwise.
Yea youâre above the law and everyone else. Iâve hear this plenty of times.
You are the one who elevates random terms of service above the law just because both parties âagreedâ to them, not me.
Yeah, right. Because those contracts are set in stone, and our corporate overlords wonât ever take away the advertised ability to download books youâve paid for, not to mention those very contracts being written in human-readable format and not lawyer speak. \s
The contract states you donât own it and they can take it away any time. So why are you stupid to sign it? Buy a physical book if you donât like it. But there is no justification for piracy like âI donât get exactly what I want so I now decide that I have the moral right to do whatever I want with indefinitely.â
Bypassing DRM isnât criminal behaviour.
Your whole series of posts in this thread are seriously unhinged. Are you trying to cosplay a corpo bootlicker or something?
Itâs either that or youâve been born wealthy enough to never have to think about the money you spend.
Youâre working for the same corpos and youâre getting payed. Youâre part of the system and youâre profiting off it. We get rid of DRM tomorrow but you get a 20% salary reduction. Would you do it? I think you wouldnât. So why would they? You guys are pretentious and canât think past the simplest complexities of an economic system.
The only jobs Iâve ever had were teaching and nursing, both paid by the country I live in, not some private entity. I donât even own a car or a TV, nor do I live in the US for that matter.
Get your head out of your ass and realise thereâs more to life than fucking money. I was born poor and will die poor, but I donât give a shit because I at least know I helped some people along the way.
Jfc, the bubble some live in. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I guess youâre not even capable of that, are ya?
This just implies that the Microsoft employee was an OnlyFans subscriber simp.
Widevine, BTW, is a Google product that all the browser vendors agree to use. Its the only reason HTML5 has gotten anywhere.
Its crazy that we canât agree on any international rules except the ones that protect IP hoarding
I was wondering why these types of open source projects always push to Github, despite the latter always complying with DMCA. (I get that Github provides discoverabilty features, but it just isnât worth it to have all your work taken down).
On a similar note, has anyone tried out radicle.xyz? Itâs supposed to actually make use of gitâs peer to peer nature (and not the client server model that everyone adopts with git) and ideally provide discoverability features.
The said Iâve only read the faq and havenât actually tried it myself. Basically Iâm wondering if itâs worth doing a deep dive on this technology
It doesnât catch on because entry level devs love committing private keys
But how else am I to verify my trust? I trust GitHub!
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Give CodeBerg a look. Itâs starting to pick up some steam.
codeberg.org
A lot of my favorite open source android apps have been switching to CodeBerg. Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram, unfortunately. That aside, CodeBerg is great and hopefully it will gain even more traction soon.
Itâs nice that Obtainium supports CodeBerg, too. I have a few must-have apps that I like to keep up to date straight from their repositories.
Iâm intrigued
Lol, its just my manga/anime apps. You can still find some of the repositories on github, but they moved all updates to TG. They also request users to not put the app name on any social media to avoid what happened to Tachiyomi.
Thereâs a large sweep going on with anime piracy atm, too. Github has been obliterating apps left and right.
CodeBerg is a public instance of Forgejo. You can run your own local instance of Forgejo.
At some point theyâll have federation working so youâll be able to use your home instance of Forgejo to interact with other projects/instances.
Ngl if you pirate indie porn you are scum. Most people who make it arenât well off.
Like Katy Perry???
Donât be a bell end
Is this a pirating tool or a tool for downloading local copies of what you did pay for? I know Fansly has weird settings where you lose access to stuff you paid for if you change your tier or need to lapse your membership for a bit. I stopped paying anyone when the archiving tool I used stopped working.
not everyone that downloads content isnât paying for it⌠they might just want it in a place or format that isnât being provided