You do with your laws whatever the fuck you want. We have different approaches to things and if US based companies don’t like that, they’ll have to find somewhere else to sell their stuff instead of relying on your government to help them bully other countries. Capitalism, small government, and all that.
Oh no. Imagine seeing pro-Trump ad, but the “paid by” reads “Vladimir Putin”. I mean, I get why Trump does not like transparency, but this law isn’t all that bad, includes stuff like having basic fundamental rights in ToS and being able to contact the company.
Good for people, bad for authoritarians and corporations.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 07 Aug 13:26
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Can you explain why they are stupid? Please remember to take the boot from your mouth before you begin.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 07 Aug 17:45
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They can’t, it’s fused with their tongue
tortina_original@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 13:48
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Apparently, laws and you have something in common 🤔
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 18:16
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just_another_person@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 11:19
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Is this what US diplomats are doing now? Fucking pathetic.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 07 Aug 11:36
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🌎👩🚀🔫👩🚀
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 12:58
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“diplomats”
No man, those people got fired in like week 1.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 07 Aug 11:55
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There is a polish movie called “Debt”. It’s about a guy who unknowingly does some business with a gangster and ends up owning him some money. Throughout the movie he gives the gangster more and more money but the fictional debt only keeps growing.
This is exactly what happened here. EU folded on the trade deal so now US wants more. It was clear to anyone with a little bit of sense that agreeing to 15% tariffs will not stabilize the situation. EU is run by idiots.
BakerBagel@midwest.social
on 07 Aug 14:24
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Yeah, thry are neoliberals interested in maintaining the neoliberal world order that has existed for the past 50 years.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 07 Aug 17:40
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Regardless they should know that if you pay the Danegeld you’ll never be rid of the Dane.
They still haven’t shaken him!
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
on 07 Aug 18:43
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Apparently this 15% bullshit trade deal is not ratified yet, so it can still be canceled
Why is the EU always blamed for everything? This is how you got brexit. Trade policy and negotiations included all of the inputs of the EU members’ leaders. The problem is that they are split. Some are trump fans (Italy, Hungary), some can’t imagine life without murica (Germany, Poland, Baltics, probably), some want more autonomy (France, Spain). This is merely a fragile compromise.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 08 Aug 06:38
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EU is a union (it’s right in the name). It’s as strong or as weak as all of it’s members are combined. The people running it are selected by and follow orders of those members. Yes, some of the countries in EU are reasonable but EU as a whole is weak and/or naive.
Listen, no one should knowingly and willingly put their countries through more pain just to “win”. I’m sure they calculated that the reduction in destruction was worth a try. They have levers to pull if it doesn’t, but it will just create a lot of destruction for all sides.
alvyn@discuss.tchncs.de
on 07 Aug 12:50
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Marco Rubio, fuck you, you piece of shit!
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 12:57
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What a disgusting pigfucking punk this piece of shit turned out to be. When he was a Senator he was “just” awful. Goddamn I hope The Fates have something cooking up for him.
Lazy question as I haven’t followed the DSA closely and Wikipedia seems very surface level - does it do stupid privacy invasive crap and forget small sites exist like the UK’s Online Safety Act?
I haven’t reviewed the whole thing, only small parts but it does look to handle online verification better (re: invasiveness).
There is a section talking about a prototype app already released that is used to store age. It verifies off a couple different government docs (ID, bank details, upcoming Digital ID), but in the end only stores the user’s age (no name, ID, birth date, or other details). The fact page for the app claims that once age is established there is no further contact between the user and age verifier, but of course this is where I likely see the issue with any age verification tool. It’ll depend on whether the verification tool trashes age-related data once done with it, or if they retain a copy for whatever reasons.
Proof of age is tied to the age required per country per activity, but this sounds far more reasonable than having a single company verify and manage age data (Persona in the US).
Yes. But it excludes any sort of custom OS versions due to the way it’s implemented. So no Lineage, no Graphene.
Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de
on 07 Aug 15:50
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The Wikipedia page doesn’t sound too bad, but IANAL.
The regulation linked from the wiki article only includes the word “age” three times and actually states:
[…] this prohibition should not lead the provider of the online platform to maintain, acquire or process more personal data than it already has in order to assess if the recipient of the service is a minor. Thus, this obligation should not incentivize providers of online platforms to collect the age of the recipient of the service prior to their use.
Haven’t looked at it any more than that, but it sounds like it’s already been in effect for ~2 years?
bigmamoth@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 14:07
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What tech ?
We have ASML and it s great but other than that in what tech are we leader ?
We had nuclear turbine before but macron sold them and I can t find any other one
BigDiction@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 14:15
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I’m ignoring the US politics for a moment…
If I flag a comment on Lemmy for abuse, breaking community rules, or other reasons, do you y’all think I am individually owed a response from the mod team on whether the content stays approved, or was removed, that includes the specific criteria behind the decision?
That’s what the DSA requires among many other requirements.
IANAL but the DSA says nothing about requirements to inform reporters on a community moderation level. It is only concerned with illegal content and this cannot be simply flagged. It has to be a sufficiently substantiated explanation reported to the instance legal contact.
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ugh fuck off
Edit: sorry, not you, OP
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Thank you for this bit of wisdom. Why did you feel the need to share it here?
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You do with your laws whatever the fuck you want. We have different approaches to things and if US based companies don’t like that, they’ll have to find somewhere else to sell their stuff instead of relying on your government to help them bully other countries. Capitalism, small government, and all that.
Oh no. Imagine seeing pro-Trump ad, but the “paid by” reads “Vladimir Putin”. I mean, I get why Trump does not like transparency, but this law isn’t all that bad, includes stuff like having basic fundamental rights in ToS and being able to contact the company.
Good for people, bad for authoritarians and corporations.
Can you explain why they are stupid? Please remember to take the boot from your mouth before you begin.
They can’t, it’s fused with their tongue
Apparently, laws and you have something in common 🤔
Hilarious. Such wit!
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Is this what US diplomats are doing now? Fucking pathetic.
🌎👩🚀🔫👩🚀
“diplomats”
No man, those people got fired in like week 1.
There is a polish movie called “Debt”. It’s about a guy who unknowingly does some business with a gangster and ends up owning him some money. Throughout the movie he gives the gangster more and more money but the fictional debt only keeps growing.
This is exactly what happened here. EU folded on the trade deal so now US wants more. It was clear to anyone with a little bit of sense that agreeing to 15% tariffs will not stabilize the situation. EU is run by idiots.
Yeah, thry are neoliberals interested in maintaining the neoliberal world order that has existed for the past 50 years.
Regardless they should know that if you pay the Danegeld you’ll never be rid of the Dane.
They still haven’t shaken him!
Apparently this 15% bullshit trade deal is not ratified yet, so it can still be canceled
Why is the EU always blamed for everything? This is how you got brexit. Trade policy and negotiations included all of the inputs of the EU members’ leaders. The problem is that they are split. Some are trump fans (Italy, Hungary), some can’t imagine life without murica (Germany, Poland, Baltics, probably), some want more autonomy (France, Spain). This is merely a fragile compromise.
EU is a union (it’s right in the name). It’s as strong or as weak as all of it’s members are combined. The people running it are selected by and follow orders of those members. Yes, some of the countries in EU are reasonable but EU as a whole is weak and/or naive.
Same for the United States of America.
Heck China and Russia are both as well.
There seems to be a theoretical maximum to the number of people or area per nation state
I’m curious what you felt the EU should have done differently.
Listen, no one should knowingly and willingly put their countries through more pain just to “win”. I’m sure they calculated that the reduction in destruction was worth a try. They have levers to pull if it doesn’t, but it will just create a lot of destruction for all sides.
Marco Rubio, fuck you, you piece of shit!
What a disgusting pigfucking punk this piece of shit turned out to be. When he was a Senator he was “just” awful. Goddamn I hope The Fates have something cooking up for him.
Lazy question as I haven’t followed the DSA closely and Wikipedia seems very surface level - does it do stupid privacy invasive crap and forget small sites exist like the UK’s Online Safety Act?
I haven’t reviewed the whole thing, only small parts but it does look to handle online verification better (re: invasiveness).
There is a section talking about a prototype app already released that is used to store age. It verifies off a couple different government docs (ID, bank details, upcoming Digital ID), but in the end only stores the user’s age (no name, ID, birth date, or other details). The fact page for the app claims that once age is established there is no further contact between the user and age verifier, but of course this is where I likely see the issue with any age verification tool. It’ll depend on whether the verification tool trashes age-related data once done with it, or if they retain a copy for whatever reasons.
Proof of age is tied to the age required per country per activity, but this sounds far more reasonable than having a single company verify and manage age data (Persona in the US).
Ahh yes, the app that coincidentally locks mobile OSes into the google ecosystem. 🤮
It is a prototype.
Their development roadmap specifically mentions Android AND iOS versions…
Yes. But it excludes any sort of custom OS versions due to the way it’s implemented. So no Lineage, no Graphene.
The Wikipedia page doesn’t sound too bad, but IANAL.
The regulation linked from the wiki article only includes the word “age” three times and actually states:
Haven’t looked at it any more than that, but it sounds like it’s already been in effect for ~2 years?
What tech ? We have ASML and it s great but other than that in what tech are we leader ? We had nuclear turbine before but macron sold them and I can t find any other one
I’m ignoring the US politics for a moment…
If I flag a comment on Lemmy for abuse, breaking community rules, or other reasons, do you y’all think I am individually owed a response from the mod team on whether the content stays approved, or was removed, that includes the specific criteria behind the decision?
That’s what the DSA requires among many other requirements.
IANAL but the DSA says nothing about requirements to inform reporters on a community moderation level. It is only concerned with illegal content and this cannot be simply flagged. It has to be a sufficiently substantiated explanation reported to the instance legal contact.
Also NAL and different sizes of platforms have different obligations. Could be wrong that the scenario I described applies to Lemmy.
No that’s not it. Washington couldn’t care kess
Ding ding ding!
Oh look, the tech companies sent a shit eating emissary to tell us how to live our lives so as to exploit us better…
remember they tried to do this in south america, tried to start a coup and they were expelled. It’s easy to expel this diplomats and request new ones
Lula won with 50.5%. That is how close they were to being enslaved again. It is not easy.
Sending technofacism and corruption overseas
I hope the EU becomes nationalistic in response to this ‘outreach’. It is clear that Dogey America intends to violate Europe on every level.
You don’t need to be a nationalist to hate nationalists. In fact it kinda helps if you aren’t.
Liberals love nationalism
To be very clear.
Doesn’t the US have KOSA incoming, which would do the exact same thing?