Amazon says employees may not get promoted if they ignore return-to-office mandate (www.cnbc.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2023 22:00
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Amazon says employees may not get promoted if they ignore return-to-office mandate::Several months after requiring that staffers work out of physical offices at least three days a week, Amazon is making sure the rule is being followed

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ExfilBravo@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2023 22:43 next collapse

They can take the “may” out of that verbiage because they have been proven to do this already.

KevonLooney@lemm.ee on 17 Nov 2023 22:47 collapse

They “may” lose employees to other companies that pay the same but offer WFH.

Odelay42@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 00:49 next collapse

I fully agree with your sentiment.

But the frustrating reality that Amazon is exploiting is almost no other companies pay as much as Amazon and allow full remote work. Even less if you’re one of the thousands of people on a work visa.

KevonLooney@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 00:58 collapse

The progression isn’t Amazon -> normal role at normal company, it’s Amazon -> high growth startup or company that will worship your knowledge. Startups have a higher ceiling and the major company role may be more prestigious.

Amazon is going to push their best people out the door.

Odelay42@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 01:02 collapse

All my colleagues who left faang companies to go to startups with big offers (and better titles) have lost out massively on comp becauss VC dried up and rsus are worthless.

One guy lost 90% of his rsu value. Another guy got straight up laid off. A third person I know lost about 75% of their offer in stock price declines in early 2023.

I agree that it’s often exciting (and easy) to be exceptional at a smaller company, but in my experience it’s almost never financially beneficial.

KevonLooney@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 02:36 collapse

That’s how startups are. You accept more risk. Startups are the definition of risky and this is not an argument for staying at a company that doesn’t listen to you.

You can always just move to a different startup. People respect you more in the startup world if you take a risk and lose due to factors beyond your control.

agent_flounder@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 01:33 next collapse

They do exist. I’ve been wfh since ~2006

Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Nov 2023 04:02 collapse

Hell I’m willing to work for less, much less, if it means WFH.

KevonLooney@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 04:21 collapse

Those jobs pay more, not less. They trust you more so they give you more leeway.

ZeroCool@feddit.ch on 17 Nov 2023 22:47 next collapse

Yikes. Amazon must really hate that their employees might be able to use the bathroom without their knowledge and permission, huh?

eskimofry@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2023 05:09 collapse

Hate that their employees are not under their thumbs

stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml on 17 Nov 2023 22:51 next collapse

K, so I’ll keep my current job and stay home instead I guess?

dm_me_your_boobs@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 02:22 next collapse

That’s my plan. I’m sitting here staring at a principal promotion in the face and I’m not sure I want it. I’m ridiculously overburdened as it is, and I’m not sure I can take more of that. So, I guess I’ll keep staying home until they force me to find a job somewhere else.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca on 18 Nov 2023 04:02 collapse

While surfing for another job 😜

Arbiter@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2023 23:30 next collapse

oh no

trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Nov 2023 23:47 next collapse

Amazon is making sure the rule is being followed

Doesn’t sound like it

bobs_monkey@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 02:10 collapse

I thought only a month ago they were threatening to fire those who didn’t return to the office.

Fades@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 00:03 next collapse

So desperate for control, pathetic

AshMan85@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 01:01 next collapse

Sounds like a sure way to loose talent.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca on 18 Nov 2023 04:01 collapse

I’m sure if you shake their employee pool enough a few should come loose.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 18 Nov 2023 01:41 next collapse

Say what you will about the mandate itself, but do many employers promote employees not following mandates? I get just get fired if not following mandates. Most often mandates are mandated. Ive never knowingly been on a date with a man, but if I did it would also be a mandate.

transientpunk@sh.itjust.works on 18 Nov 2023 04:10 collapse

When you have in demand skills you can get away with more.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 2023 01:32 collapse

Sounds like something a sketchy man would say on a mandate.

Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Nov 2023 04:03 collapse

As if anyone’s getting a promotion…