melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 18 Jul 09:24
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I'm not even surprised, but I'm disappointed.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world
on 18 Jul 09:36
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I mean, they’ve been using “AI” to write scripts for at least a couple of years (Hot Frosty and The Gray Man were obviously not thought nor written by a human, for example), so I guess this was inevitable.
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz
on 18 Jul 10:01
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Wasn’t The Gray Man based on a book? Yeah it was… not good, but is there evidence of AI in the script?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world
on 18 Jul 10:38
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“Chat GPT, write the script for a movie lasting about 90 minutes based on ‘The Gray Man’, pronto!”
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz
on 18 Jul 11:20
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That’s not really evidence… humans can write shitty scripts too.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world
on 18 Jul 16:15
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There’s shitty and “even an illiterate schizophrenic can write something better”. But of course that’s not evidence, lol, it’s just my hopeful speculation!
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today
on 18 Jul 12:29
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Well, the only evidence I found at a quick glance is that the movie was released about four months before ChatGPT. And it had been in production since about 2020 which is obviously way before LLMs became a widespread.
So I think that’s a strong case it wasn’t written by AI.
How things are made matter just as much as the thing itself. People who can’t understand this simple fact are half the reason our environment is being destroyed.
If the end result is all that matters, there are a ton of unimaginable horrors that could be done.
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz
on 18 Jul 10:05
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Streaming services are soon going to be like mobile gaming. Literal tons of low effort shit copying off each other so it’s almost impossible to just browse the store and find anything with real quality.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
on 18 Jul 10:23
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If it doesn’t mean it’s noticeably shitty then don’t care
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world
on 18 Jul 10:32
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Does it make it look worse? No? Then it doesn’t matter.
it sure does matter to all the VFX artists who’s work the AI has been trained on without their consent, and who now aren’t getting hired because the plagiarism machine is cheaper
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Jul 11:45
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And we all know that VFX people are already super appreciated and always well-compensated for their work.
Now canceling the show mid-story by Season 2 will be cheaper than ever!
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world
on 18 Jul 12:36
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I’m divided because on one side AI is taking away many jobs that now outputs low quality shit. On the other hand, AI may allow small creators to see their vision become real with tight budgets, specially in countries without a strong movie industry.
I’m sorry but you’re a clown if you think AI is going to be a tool used to help the little guy. Is like zuckerberg claiming Facebook will help connect and bring us together.
the problem is AI is trained on art by small creators who don’t get compensated for it at all.
To me it’s fine to use for personal hobbies, but as soon as you start trying to make money with it or even just present it publicly you get into murky waters.
Why only the effects? They could generate the series or movie on demand based on your algorithm recommendations! A great way to cut costs on this nasty expensive storage. (/s)
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jul 23:20
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Glad they are finally cutting costs at least. Will be nice to see the subscription cost finally drop for a change instead of perpetually getting jacked up with no improvements in the service provided. So when does the lower cost subscription start?
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
on 18 Jul 23:43
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A boomer coworker recently said something that made a lot of sense to me: Netflix is for 2020s TV what Motown was for 1960s music. They’ve turned the artform into a production line, constantly optimising to shovel out as much content as possible, hunting the minimum viable product, and occasionally, very rarely, producing something good almost by chance. L
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
on 19 Jul 01:52
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not here to defend any corporation,
but TV was corporate slop before netflix.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jul 02:29
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Loooong before. But I will say, most shows at least got a decent shake before Netflix became a producer. These days even a solid season 1 with rave reviews isn’t a guarantee of a season 2.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
on 19 Jul 02:38
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i think Netflix practically killed sitcoms, as they never give shows any chance to build an audience before they cancel it.
on the other hand, they made Centaur would, so it’s not all that bad
It really isn’t. Optimization of any business usually yields promising benefits. But there are always those that lose to the optimization. Sports, films, music, even other businesses always cut people out that don’t pull their weight or make it pain in the ass to match the new focus.
They can streamline all they want and keep pumping out forgettable content. Nothing tops great makeup work and special effects. “American Werewolf in London” transformation scene will always haunt me and I will never forget the title of that movie.
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev
on 19 Jul 02:23
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Regardless, The Eternaut was awesome
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jul 02:27
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I really want to get into it but its pacing is ever slightly too slow. Is it worth pushing through? I think I stopped right after the episode where the wife is introduced.
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev
on 19 Jul 02:29
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It stays pretty slow but does begin to get a bit… weirder. The end of the season was rad and got me really hyped for season 2. I’ve actually watched the first season 2 times now.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jul 02:43
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I’ll have to give it another attempt I suppose. It feels right up my alley other than the pacing.
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I'm not even surprised, but I'm disappointed.
I mean, they’ve been using “AI” to write scripts for at least a couple of years (Hot Frosty and The Gray Man were obviously not thought nor written by a human, for example), so I guess this was inevitable.
Wasn’t The Gray Man based on a book? Yeah it was… not good, but is there evidence of AI in the script?
“Chat GPT, write the script for a movie lasting about 90 minutes based on ‘The Gray Man’, pronto!”
That’s not really evidence… humans can write shitty scripts too.
If there were evidence amd they didn’t disclose it, it would be a huge scandal considering protections against AI was a huge part of the 2023 strike.
There’s shitty and “even an illiterate schizophrenic can write something better”. But of course that’s not evidence, lol, it’s just my hopeful speculation!
Well, the only evidence I found at a quick glance is that the movie was released about four months before ChatGPT. And it had been in production since about 2020 which is obviously way before LLMs became a widespread.
So I think that’s a strong case it wasn’t written by AI.
How things are made matter just as much as the thing itself. People who can’t understand this simple fact are half the reason our environment is being destroyed.
If the end result is all that matters, there are a ton of unimaginable horrors that could be done.
Streaming services are soon going to be like mobile gaming. Literal tons of low effort shit copying off each other so it’s almost impossible to just browse the store and find anything with real quality.
If it doesn’t mean it’s noticeably shitty then don’t care
Does it make it look worse? No? Then it doesn’t matter.
it sure does matter to all the VFX artists who’s work the AI has been trained on without their consent, and who now aren’t getting hired because the plagiarism machine is cheaper
And we all know that VFX people are already super appreciated and always well-compensated for their work.
We already murder some babies. Why not murder all babies?
How about “because if bad stuff is bad, more bad stuff is worse”?
I was being facetious.
Also the damage to our environment. The llms use a bunch of energy and fresh water.
netflix continues to suck film at 11
Now canceling the show mid-story by Season 2 will be cheaper than ever!
I’m divided because on one side AI is taking away many jobs that now outputs low quality shit. On the other hand, AI may allow small creators to see their vision become real with tight budgets, specially in countries without a strong movie industry.
I’m sorry but you’re a clown if you think AI is going to be a tool used to help the little guy. Is like zuckerberg claiming Facebook will help connect and bring us together.
I don’t like to admit it, but it has in my case. Pretty wild calling someone a clown for having a pretty good point/valid concern.
Netflix were outputting a lot of low quality shit before AI got involved.
Funny, but ultimately irrelevant to their point, right?
the problem is AI is trained on art by small creators who don’t get compensated for it at all.
To me it’s fine to use for personal hobbies, but as soon as you start trying to make money with it or even just present it publicly you get into murky waters.
Why only the effects? They could generate the series or movie on demand based on your algorithm recommendations! A great way to cut costs on this nasty expensive storage. (/s)
Why even bother paying actors?
I don’t have time for “TV”. Can AI do the watching for me too?
That’s… What an AI generated review is.
Glad they are finally cutting costs at least. Will be nice to see the subscription cost finally drop for a change instead of perpetually getting jacked up with no improvements in the service provided. So when does the lower cost subscription start?
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A boomer coworker recently said something that made a lot of sense to me: Netflix is for 2020s TV what Motown was for 1960s music. They’ve turned the artform into a production line, constantly optimising to shovel out as much content as possible, hunting the minimum viable product, and occasionally, very rarely, producing something good almost by chance. L
not here to defend any corporation,
but TV was corporate slop before netflix.
Loooong before. But I will say, most shows at least got a decent shake before Netflix became a producer. These days even a solid season 1 with rave reviews isn’t a guarantee of a season 2.
i think Netflix practically killed sitcoms, as they never give shows any chance to build an audience before they cancel it.
on the other hand, they made Centaur would, so it’s not all that bad
sounds like your coworker just wanted an opportunity to bitch about motown. this phenomenon isn’t unique to motown either.
It really isn’t. Optimization of any business usually yields promising benefits. But there are always those that lose to the optimization. Sports, films, music, even other businesses always cut people out that don’t pull their weight or make it pain in the ass to match the new focus.
They can streamline all they want and keep pumping out forgettable content. Nothing tops great makeup work and special effects. “American Werewolf in London” transformation scene will always haunt me and I will never forget the title of that movie.
Regardless, The Eternaut was awesome
I really want to get into it but its pacing is ever slightly too slow. Is it worth pushing through? I think I stopped right after the episode where the wife is introduced.
It stays pretty slow but does begin to get a bit… weirder. The end of the season was rad and got me really hyped for season 2. I’ve actually watched the first season 2 times now.
I’ll have to give it another attempt I suppose. It feels right up my alley other than the pacing.
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