TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
on 14 Jun 19:53
nextcollapse
If they don’t individually own the property but pay for upkeep and there is no landlord… that’s a housing cooperative, no?
Squatter mansion.
Nommer@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 19:58
nextcollapse
It’s more like co-owning. Both the owner and the HOA own the property. But at least with my HOA the agreement is they handle everything outside my walls, I handle everything inside.
HOA is just a name, they take many many forms. My grandparents neighborhood for example has an HOA that collects dues and the dues are used to pay to have the roads repaved or fixed when damaged, and that’s it. No upkeep rules or anything like that, and there’s only a handful of houses in their small neighborhood that look bad from the outside, but that’s those people’s business
Depends who owns it / who payed to have it constructed. If the tenets own it and payed to have it constructed, or payed someone who payed someone… Then it’s a condo or a co-op depending on whether you own a unit in the building or own x% of the building which entitles you to a unit.
If another organization, almost always some form of government, payed to have it constructed and owns it then it is public housing.
If it’s anything like cities skylines original, houses just pop up according to demand with seemingly no construction cost calculated, probably because it would add a ton more complexity with mortgages and speculative markets etc. for little gain to players who mostly just want to play with trains and metros.
A lot of YouTubers seem to have recently claimed that their landlords are anonymous corporations with no clear individual proclaimed as owner or responsible party.
Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
on 15 Jun 09:40
nextcollapse
That’s usually not the case though. These landlords are usually just some anonymous investor, probably living in Dubai or some shit. The small-time landlords are more an exception and usually not the big problem.
I was thinking about why a small landlord might be better, and I know there are exceptions, but usually a small landlord is is not going to squeeze every penny out of their rentals, sometimes out of the goodness of their heart, but most importantly, a small landlord has other ways to be productive.
A small landlord who has a normal job, if they want to improve the world, they do it through their job or personal projects, they build something or create something or whatever.
A big landlord who does nothing else, they aren’t actually creating anything, they’re just rent seeking and the most creative way they can imagine to improve the world is to rent seek even harder.
Our economic system gives greater rewards to those who move money around than to those who create things or cure cancer or anything else. The ways of turning a lot of money into even more money are taxed less (usually not at all) than more common ways of earning money like working a job or creating physical goods. The richest people didn’t get rich by creating something that improves everyone’s lives, they got rich by moving money around.
Small landlords are the cheapest IME, and often act like they are doing you a favour. Big ones are cold, but at least treat people like customers rather than janitors
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
on 15 Jun 18:37
nextcollapse
A small landlord who has a normal job, if they want to improve the world, they do it through their job or personal projects, they build something or create something or whatever.
A big landlord who does nothing else, they aren’t actually creating anything, they’re just rent seeking and the most creative way they can imagine to improve the world is to rent seek even harder.
You’re forgetting: Property Management is a career, and for a reason. Unmaintained properties run into bigger issues until they’re so bad a tenant has to move out – and then a tenant has no place to live without a massive rent increase as the rent is re-based on the prevailing economic rape instead of whatever it was 10 years ago with its 2% yearly increase.
Big landlords are uncaring, but they do manage the property. Good ones manage it well, fixing windows and pipes and pot-holes, etc. Less ‘broken-window effect’ and more peaceful days between goddamned fire alarm testing.
Only a 2% yearly increase?!? Are you serious? I lived in an apartment for 8 years, and my ending rent was 70% higher than my starting rent. By your number, it should have ended up only about 15% higher.
Small landlords, through ignorance or in a belief that they’re too small a fish for government to go after, are often the worst with breaking laws and exploiting tenants.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Jun 22:30
collapse
And also some of the best in terms of tenant/landlord relationship. I loved my last landlord, they took care of things before I bothered mentioning them, were very respectful of our privacy (they’d give several days notice for any maintenance, when only 24 hours was required).
Small landlords can suck or be fantastic, big landlords will almost always suck just a bit. When looking for an apartment, remember, you should be interviewing your landlord as well as them interviewing you. Ask neighbors before signing anything if you can…
Honest mistake, but you’re probably thinking of a superintendent. They are usually an employee of the landlord, and do things like collect the landlord’s rents and sometimes fix appliances, etc.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.de
on 15 Jun 09:00
nextcollapse
I would have preferred to have it solvable through policy or something. A giant business, with high earning employees would of course raise the average rent if not regulated. I find it rather amusing, that it actually happened in the game as well without being explicitly build in.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 15 Jun 21:30
nextcollapse
Wow no thanks, I will decide if and when I replace the roof of my house and who will do it and how. I would really fucking hate the condominium approach of making that a collective decision. That’s why I want nothing other than detached homes, in the forest sepatated by 300-400 meter to the next one !
My wife and I just bought my first home this week. The market is fucking brutal. You think you’re getting in early to view a new listing and there are ten other realtors’ cards already on the kitchen table. Made the highest offer? Fuck you. This guy out of Vancouver offered market price with zero conditions. House is old as hell and really should have had an inspection. OH WELL! SUCK A DICK! 🤷
We wound up getting exactly what we had been waiting for. House was on the market for 13 hours, we were the first to make an offer, sellers accepted almost immediately. Inspection went well. Detached home in a cozy little cul-de-sac. Lush back yard with a high, solid fence. Dude, I can’t fucking wait. I’ve been in a townhouse with a back 40 that looks like the dormatories of a Russian mining complex.
russjr08@bitforged.space
on 16 Jun 00:33
nextcollapse
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 16 Jun 19:44
collapse
There is nothing like owning your own home. Spatially separated from the next one
Sure the ecofash commieblock enthusiasts downvoted me because they would prefer us all living in austere and efficient concrete pods so we emit less carbon as they pay us subsistence wages.
And I really wish we could swap homes on a whim and really be home anywhere instead of this musical chair bullshit.
This week in “simulations trying to mimic reality end up showing why the socialists are right”
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Jun 23:27
nextcollapse
Yeah; seeing this pop up on my feed so close to another story about the increasing concentration of wealth to landlords in Canada made me both chuckle and then sigh.
threaded - newest
Forgive my ignorance, but an apartment where the landlord is removed and people just pay building maintenance is… a condominium, no?
If they don’t individually own the property but pay for upkeep and there is no landlord… that’s a housing cooperative, no?
I grew up in a community co-op! It was so great
Squatter mansion.
It’s more like co-owning. Both the owner and the HOA own the property. But at least with my HOA the agreement is they handle everything outside my walls, I handle everything inside.
I didn’t know about the co-ownership. That makes HOA stories make more sense.
I would never buy property subject to an HOA.
HOA is just a name, they take many many forms. My grandparents neighborhood for example has an HOA that collects dues and the dues are used to pay to have the roads repaved or fixed when damaged, and that’s it. No upkeep rules or anything like that, and there’s only a handful of houses in their small neighborhood that look bad from the outside, but that’s those people’s business
Depends who owns it / who payed to have it constructed. If the tenets own it and payed to have it constructed, or payed someone who payed someone… Then it’s a condo or a co-op depending on whether you own a unit in the building or own x% of the building which entitles you to a unit.
If another organization, almost always some form of government, payed to have it constructed and owns it then it is public housing.
If it’s anything like cities skylines original, houses just pop up according to demand with seemingly no construction cost calculated, probably because it would add a ton more complexity with mortgages and speculative markets etc. for little gain to players who mostly just want to play with trains and metros.
Tenants, fyi
Haha…haha…ha…
It’s time to have life imitate art.
.
Recently it has been disclosed that the dev team have added a new member
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9b9e0833-e076-4c8f-9296-f1e28169e6bd.jpeg">
every time i see that picture i always think of city planner plays :D
I keep forgetting that that’s an option
Ask the sovereign citizens at !insanepeoplefacebook@lemmy.world how that works out.
Did Sir want their slice of landlord rare? And with or without mint sauce on the side…
Interesting note in this mint sauce recipe.
I can’t wait until this game is released
Same. I hear the early access has been rough.
I’m ready to buy once things work properly.
I just hope it makes it out of development hell unlike Kerbal Space Program 2
Ok, but my rent is too high in real life. Can those developers nuke MY landlord?
Considering you likely live in the same building/complex as your landlord, I wouldn’t recommend it.
A lot of YouTubers seem to have recently claimed that their landlords are anonymous corporations with no clear individual proclaimed as owner or responsible party.
That’s usually not the case though. These landlords are usually just some anonymous investor, probably living in Dubai or some shit. The small-time landlords are more an exception and usually not the big problem.
I was thinking about why a small landlord might be better, and I know there are exceptions, but usually a small landlord is is not going to squeeze every penny out of their rentals, sometimes out of the goodness of their heart, but most importantly, a small landlord has other ways to be productive.
A small landlord who has a normal job, if they want to improve the world, they do it through their job or personal projects, they build something or create something or whatever.
A big landlord who does nothing else, they aren’t actually creating anything, they’re just rent seeking and the most creative way they can imagine to improve the world is to rent seek even harder.
Our economic system gives greater rewards to those who move money around than to those who create things or cure cancer or anything else. The ways of turning a lot of money into even more money are taxed less (usually not at all) than more common ways of earning money like working a job or creating physical goods. The richest people didn’t get rich by creating something that improves everyone’s lives, they got rich by moving money around.
Small landlords are the cheapest IME, and often act like they are doing you a favour. Big ones are cold, but at least treat people like customers rather than janitors
You’re forgetting: Property Management is a career, and for a reason. Unmaintained properties run into bigger issues until they’re so bad a tenant has to move out – and then a tenant has no place to live without a massive rent increase as the rent is re-based on the prevailing economic rape instead of whatever it was 10 years ago with its 2% yearly increase.
Big landlords are uncaring, but they do manage the property. Good ones manage it well, fixing windows and pipes and pot-holes, etc. Less ‘broken-window effect’ and more peaceful days between goddamned fire alarm testing.
Only a 2% yearly increase?!? Are you serious? I lived in an apartment for 8 years, and my ending rent was 70% higher than my starting rent. By your number, it should have ended up only about 15% higher.
Small landlords, through ignorance or in a belief that they’re too small a fish for government to go after, are often the worst with breaking laws and exploiting tenants.
And also some of the best in terms of tenant/landlord relationship. I loved my last landlord, they took care of things before I bothered mentioning them, were very respectful of our privacy (they’d give several days notice for any maintenance, when only 24 hours was required).
Small landlords can suck or be fantastic, big landlords will almost always suck just a bit. When looking for an apartment, remember, you should be interviewing your landlord as well as them interviewing you. Ask neighbors before signing anything if you can…
Mine are a few blocks away, but ya know what? Worth it. Nuke away.
Honest mistake, but you’re probably thinking of a superintendent. They are usually an employee of the landlord, and do things like collect the landlord’s rents and sometimes fix appliances, etc.
I would have preferred to have it solvable through policy or something. A giant business, with high earning employees would of course raise the average rent if not regulated. I find it rather amusing, that it actually happened in the game as well without being explicitly build in.
My thoughts exactly. Although. Reality is often stranger than fiction. So who knows what’s coming next for us 😆
mao zedong enters the chat
Wow no thanks, I will decide if and when I replace the roof of my house and who will do it and how. I would really fucking hate the condominium approach of making that a collective decision. That’s why I want nothing other than detached homes, in the forest sepatated by 300-400 meter to the next one !
My wife and I just bought my first home this week. The market is fucking brutal. You think you’re getting in early to view a new listing and there are ten other realtors’ cards already on the kitchen table. Made the highest offer? Fuck you. This guy out of Vancouver offered market price with zero conditions. House is old as hell and really should have had an inspection. OH WELL! SUCK A DICK! 🤷
We wound up getting exactly what we had been waiting for. House was on the market for 13 hours, we were the first to make an offer, sellers accepted almost immediately. Inspection went well. Detached home in a cozy little cul-de-sac. Lush back yard with a high, solid fence. Dude, I can’t fucking wait. I’ve been in a townhouse with a back 40 that looks like the dormatories of a Russian mining complex.
Congrats on the new home!
Thank you!
There is nothing like owning your own home. Spatially separated from the next one
Sure the ecofash commieblock enthusiasts downvoted me because they would prefer us all living in austere and efficient concrete pods so we emit less carbon as they pay us subsistence wages.
And I really wish we could swap homes on a whim and really be home anywhere instead of this musical chair bullshit.
This week in “simulations trying to mimic reality end up showing why the socialists are right”
Yeah; seeing this pop up on my feed so close to another story about the increasing concentration of wealth to landlords in Canada made me both chuckle and then sigh.
This happened in Dwarf Fortress too
It’s almost like a society based on cooperation works better than a society based on competition.