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New youtube layout?
from ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 01:44
https://lemmy.world/post/17857385

Hey, I was browsing youtube in private mode, and out of nowhere it started looking like this, I really hope this doesn’t go through lolol…

(the black square bottom right is probably an ad being blocked.

#technology

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downpunxx@fedia.io on 23 Jul 2024 02:07 next collapse

they've been beta testing this for weeks, had it come up out of nowhere and stay like this for all video's for an entire evening, then next morning the comments and related video sidebar were back where they've always been

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 02:09 collapse

I had it for a week…Which I call the week I stopped watching.

helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 02:08 next collapse

That looks pretty awful IMO.

Extension suggestion: Enhancer for YouTube

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/…/enhancer-for-youtube/

To keep it self working it prevents “expiramental layouts” from youtube.

Great for setting YouTube player defaults the way you want.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 02:10 next collapse

Commenting here so I can come back to this when I get home, as Lemmy doesn’t have a save option.

jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 02:15 next collapse

You don’t see a star or bookmark symbol on comments?

Might be app you are using?

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 02:25 collapse

I see a star, but I was told that was a way to say you like the post. Like you’re giving it a gold star. I’ve been using them like a super upvote.

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub on 23 Jul 2024 02:34 next collapse

Long press the star, and it says Save. Not entirely sure where the saved posts go, though.

Edit: found it. Go to your profile, then the Saved tab.

Rolando@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 03:42 collapse

To do a super upvote you can give Lemmy gold.

Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Jul 2024 02:22 collapse

Lemmy absolutely does have a save option

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 23 Jul 2024 03:10 collapse

It is auful. There’s uBlock rules to disable it.

jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 02:11 next collapse

They are always testing changes to different groups of people.

Not too sure how that works, but if you wnat the old layout you can add extensions.

Quick search results in:

How to Undo YouTube’s Terrible New Layout [Jake Peterson | May 23 2024 | LifeHacker] lifehacker.com/…/how-to-undo-youtubes-terrible-ne…

How to Get Old YouTube Layout Back: Simple Steps for Nostalgic Navigation [July 18, 2024 | bytebitebit] bytebitebit.com/…/how-to-get-old-youtube-layout-b…

Schal330@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 05:25 collapse

It’s likely A/B Testing and when people receive the new layout, if Youtube sees a drop in engagement for their experiment they may just ditch it.

jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 05:44 collapse

Oh, thanks for the link!

Edit: added a bit of information below for those interested

A/B testing (also known as split testing or bucket testing) is a methodology for comparing two versions of a webpage or app against each other to determine which one performs better. A/B testing is essentially an experiment where two or more variants of a page are shown to users at random, and statistical analysis is used to determine which variation performs better for a given conversion goal

In an A/B test, you take a webpage or app screen and modify it to create a second version of the same page. This change can be as simple as a single headline, button or be a complete redesign of the page. Then, half of your traffic is shown the original version of the page (known as control or A) and half are shown the modified version of the page (the variation or B).

The following is an A/B testing framework you can use to start running tests:

Collect data:

Identify goals:

Generate test hypothesis:

Create different variations:

Run experiment:

Wait for the test results:

Analyze results:

magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org on 23 Jul 2024 02:19 next collapse

People still use the official site?

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 23 Jul 2024 05:33 collapse

^ Mocks people for using the default, then proceeds to not give alternatives they deem better.

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 23 Jul 2024 13:50 collapse

Invidous takes all of the crap out, but the video quality may be sometimes subpar. Find your nearest instance or spin up your own! I’d also recommend using a redirect extension in your browser for a seamless experience.

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Jul 2024 14:02 collapse

also piped

magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org on 23 Jul 2024 17:10 collapse

Newpipe for android users is pretty dope.

Also yt-dlp for a CLI program if you’re into that.

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Jul 2024 19:49 collapse

absolutely. or tubular if you want downvotes and sponsorblock with your newpipe (though i think tubular hasnt been updated yet since the last time youtube broke 3rd party apps)

recklessengagement@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 03:34 next collapse

I’ve been getting very close to ditching YouTube. This change showed up a few weeks ago for me and pushed me a bit further.

If they succeed in inserting ads into the video stream I’ll bail alltogether. I can fit a subscription to Brilliant, Dropout, and several creator Patreons into the cost of a YouTube Red subscription, and I won’t have to deal with these attention-optimizing UI changes.

fionnafire@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Jul 2024 07:03 next collapse

You can get YouTube premium for like three bucks if you VPN into certain countries. Ukraine worked for me.

Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jul 2024 07:11 collapse

Yes, let’s abuse a country’s poor economy so the service providers eventually raise the price in the region as a direct countermeasure and fuck over the real citizens that needed that cheaper regional pricing.

fionnafire@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Jul 2024 16:42 collapse

That’s a good point but you don’t have to be an asshole about it

Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jul 2024 18:35 next collapse

I’m sorry for my previous tone, it’s just that this subject makes me irrationally angry and I acted without forethought. In retrospect I shouldn’t have written what I did, I apologize, have a nice day.

fionnafire@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 25 Jul 2024 14:26 collapse

Thank you. The Ukraine server seems to have been removed from service for my vpn anyway

richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one on 24 Jul 2024 02:23 collapse

I think he was very polite, considering.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 23 Jul 2024 07:33 next collapse

I'm also very close in ditching all Google products. Including search.

pyre@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 19:44 collapse

i haven’t used their search in ages. ddg is good enough and doesn’t flood you with ads instead of actual results. still not as good as Google used to be once upon a time, but I’ll take 80-90% quality over the garbage that is Google search.

but I’m also considering switching to kagi

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 24 Jul 2024 19:56 collapse

DuckDuckGo is a meta-search engine and is mainly depended on results from Bing and Yahoo! actually.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 24 Jul 2024 19:56 next collapse

In fact, not that long ago Bing was down, causing ddg also being unavailable, so that says enough.

pyre@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 20:59 collapse

i know. what i said stands.

Orfeluh@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 08:21 collapse

You can use some of the alternatives like Piped in web browser or desktop app called FreeTube

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 24 Jul 2024 19:57 collapse

That is true, but not solving the problem with other searches like the normal web search.

tb_@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 06:08 next collapse

I’m not a fan. I prefer watching in theatre mode; when opening comments it closes theatre mode.

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 23 Jul 2024 07:34 next collapse

I don’t see the black square bottom right? There is one bottom left.

mihnt@lemmy.ca on 23 Jul 2024 12:32 next collapse

Does anyone know of a way to sync channel and have it auto-download to my server for watching how I want to?

olicvb@lemmy.ca on 23 Jul 2024 13:47 next collapse

aughta have a better way somewhere, but until you find it you could set a batch file to run youtube-dlp twice a day.

I found this comment on reddit with an example of how you can have it check to make sure you don’t download the ones you already did.

praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jul 2024 15:17 next collapse

github.com/meeb/tubesync

Be careful running this. This can be very resource/disk space intensive.

raldone01@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 00:19 next collapse

At least on linux rm is very fast

Petter1@lemm.ee on 24 Jul 2024 11:19 collapse

Very nice 👌🏻 I’ll keep that in mind so that I have a solution after youtube stops me abusing poor country’s economy. (They did not yet)

raldone01@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 00:17 collapse

I use tubearchivist. It has a jellyfin addon but it could really use some improvements on how it exposes the videos.

geography082@lemm.ee on 23 Jul 2024 07:23 next collapse

My layout didn’t change… maybe because I use my piped :D

001Guy001@lemm.ee on 23 Jul 2024 07:41 next collapse

Some ways to try to revert it (some have already been mentioned)

👉 Go to this page and check if you’re able to opt out of the “Redesigned Watch Page” (source)

👉 Install a userscript addon like Violentmonkey, and then use a script like Classic Youtube Layout (which is based on this script which was outdated in regards to the related videos sidebar)

If you get an error about the @match line of the script then click on allow edits and change it from *.youtube.com/* to *://*.youtube.com/*, or install the script as it is and then put *://*.youtube.com/* in the “@match rules” line in the settings tab of the script
There’s also this script that you would need to add its code manually to the userscript addon by clicking on the new script icon (see the author’s post for more details)

👉 Use uBlock Origin filters like these or these

Note that youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.EXPERIMENT_FLAGS.kevlar_watch_grid, false) should be enough to change the UI back for the most part

👉 Use this userscript and Stylus style

👉 The addon Enhancer for YouTube (Firefox / Chrome) also reverts the UI, at least partially

👉 (might only work some times) Use the addon CustomTube - Firefox / Chrome (the default UI is from 2017 but you can choose 2021 in the settings. It’s not exactly like the one from 2023 but it’s close enough)

note that it removes some buttons like Join by default so go over the settings if relevant

If you also want to change the number of videos per row in the subscription page and channels’ videos page, then you can add this uBlock Origin code to the “My filters” tab (at the end click “Apply changes”, or Ctrl+S) (this is for 6 items per row but you can change the number in the first 2 line as needed) (source 1 / source 2)

youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 6 !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-posts-per-row: 6 !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-two-column-browse-results-renderer.grid-6-columns:style(width: 100% !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-two-column-browse-results-renderer.grid:not(.grid-disabled):style(max-width: 100% !important;)

Pika@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jul 2024 17:23 next collapse

I’ve had this layout for a few weeks now, I agree it’s absolutely garbage. The amount of times that I’ve accidentally modified my Queue or cleared my queue attempting to read the comment section is ridiculous. As is the Queue feature is absolutely atrocious and buggy as hell but like don’t make it worse please

laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Jul 2024 23:40 collapse

So, if it’s so much worse than the old/current layout, they’re almost guaranteed to adopt it fully

googie can’t help but fuck up good things

clark@midwest.social on 23 Jul 2024 20:06 next collapse

Idk why I find im a albatroz so funny

antler@feddit.rocks on 23 Jul 2024 21:14 next collapse

Greyjay Newpipe Freetube

Joelk111@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 02:46 collapse

Can’t wait for Grayjay to finish their desktop client. I also hope they add better functionality to sponsor block, akin to the desktop or revanced experience.

Honestly, the second biggest issue, after the lack of desktop client, is that it doesn’t completely solve the problem. I’ll still have to use Dropout’s, Motor Trend on Demand’s (now integrated into Discovery+), and other’s streaming service apps, instead of having it all in one place.

That said, I’m not sure if Grayjay wants or intends to implement services that are more like a Netflix, where you’d be following shows instead of creators, considering their mission statement is to follow creators.

I really want Dropout’s stuff, Roadkill, and Hot Rod Garage in Grayjay so I can simply add the videos to my watch later. For a show like Breaking Bad or something, I don’t think I’d want that in GrayJay, but I suppose it’d be good to have options.

Petter1@lemm.ee on 24 Jul 2024 11:10 collapse

For Series, we have arrr and jellyfin 😂😉 can’t be illegal to pirate stuff you pay for and they fail to deliver, can it?

Well in my country you don’t even need to pay for stuff to legally pirate, lol

JustARaccoon@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 11:29 collapse

Not sure what the issue is with it really, is it just that it’s different? Maybe I’m in a niche group that reads comments while watching the video but it seems to me like a good improvement, and you can still go full screen if that’s an issue. Idk tho I don’t have access to this layout yet, just my impression based on the screenshots I’ve seen