On the Day He Was Fired as National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz Used an Israeli App to Archive Signal Messages
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from pete_link@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world on 02 May 13:37
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from pete_link@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world on 02 May 13:37
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cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/29486510
Jason Paladino
May 02, 2025“During Wednesday’s meeting for Trump’s cabinet, Mike Waltz checked the app on his phone, using what appeared to be Signal. As news broke that Waltz had lost his job as National Security Advisor, images from the cabinet meeting circulated widely online on Thursday. Upon closer inspection of the photos, it turned out that Waltz was not using the traditional Signal app. He appeared to be using an archiving app made by Israeli firm TeleMessage, which sells companion apps meant to enable archiving messages.”
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I don’t have any faith that these things will actually matter. Nobody’s going to do anything about it.
He isn’t even gone from the government, Trump is moving him to be ambassador to the U.N.
And this isn’t happening because of what he did, but because he got caught. He put on display how none of Trump’s hires have any qualifications, and that he is a complete idiot with his denial story. He was then proven even dumber when his claims of no classified material were again proven to be wrong by the reporter publishing proof.
This is partly why they didn’t remove him entirely (or kill him outright) from gov’t work. They want a close eye on their cronies who have or could have receipts for blackmail purposes (both directions here).
What good are receipts when there are no consequences? Putin could put the underaged pee tapes on YouTube and it wouldn’t matter.
Then why hasn’t he? They still have leverage on Trump and that’s why you see him dancing to Russia’s tune every now and then.
Nah I just don’t buy the kompromat stories anymore. There is nothing Putin can release that would be a problem for Trump. He never sees any legal consequences and his followers never turn on him regardless of all of his crimes.
Trump dances to Putin’s tune because he’s a fanboi who loves Russia and authoritarianism. He doesn’t need kompromat to betray the US; he’s happy to do it.
I subscribe to this belief too. There’s no way in hell that an experienced spy like Putin would have any trouble manipulating the easiest to manipulate person on the planet (literally just flatter him). Plus, Putin is exactly the kind of guy who Trump wants to emulate, so he naturally looks up to him.
Strong deja vu with Russia. I thought the expansion strategy of Putin’s relatives\friends won’t prove successful in other places.
OK, nothing new, these things were in every second movie from 1960s-now touching upon power and governments and mafia. Just something went wrong, either in the balance or we see more.
The old tried-and-true ‘move the priest to a new parish’ strategy.
The corruption is the whole point
'Murica is broken. It always was. It’s just now public
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Nothing will improve merely with that, only change. It will just lead to horrible oppression first and bloody conflict next after people get enough of that. And after the conflict money just changes owners and new rich will start accumulating wealth at expense of everyone else and cycle begins anew.
While times of change are good for… well, changing things there has to be some plan for the change to possibly be actually positive. Otherwise those who are good at exploiting chaos and instability for their own gain will just have free reign.
Nah make them afriad, if they don’t willingly step back and begin to redistribute their wealth it needs to be forcefully done by the new state
Yes, but step 1 of that plan generally involves getting the rich to allow the change
That is how the plan is put in action. You cant start planning after the gears are in motion because you have limited time to act. And even if you have unlimited time to act, you still need to be prepared to utilize whatever is happening. All kinds of people, other rich people included, will swarm to benefit from things becoming more open for change. Russia had a revolution that started soviet union and we all know how that turned out in the end and have to pay for it even today in form of how russia currently is.
And I’m not saying dont make the rich to listen if nothing else works, just that if you get to that point it will be start of something that either changes something or cements current status quo even worse and you shouldn’t do that haphazardly or it will just make things worse. In fact, best way to do it would be to plan first what you do once you succeed. Though before even that there needs to be a group dedicated to this.
And as to how to make them allow the change, I think managing to turn the general public against them would be good starting point. Cant do much if majority doesnt take you seriously or considers you a threat. So people should be made to feel less alone and apathetic, which is undoing whatever the rich have been doing so stay in power. This alone wont likely do it, but it will support whatever might come next. At least its something anyone can try to do, for example by doing volunteer work that helps those in need, creating communities for people to be in instead of just rotting in social media and generally attempting to make other people happier and acting like decent human being. And if you feel more rebellious, getting the message across by doing stuff how resistance usually achieves it, like writing the message into somewhere to people to see for example. With enough repetition and time it might start to sink in. Just nothing that would make regular people afraid since that is the tool that benefits the enemy.
Maybe there are better ways to do that, but at least this is what comes to my mind at the moment.
Keeping dirt on the other folks in the chat room.
The nation of origin is completely meaningless when it comes to software distributed over the internet.
Yeah it’s not so much the infrastructure but the political alignment that raises an eyebrow here
You know software is made by people, right?
As opposed to software distributed by CD tied to an African swallow?
Jokes aside. Backing up data to a software owned by a Chinese, American or Swiss company would have different implications. Different laws apply on how the government can access and use that data.
If it’s Australian the government can force them to insert a backdoor. Don’t ever ever touch aussiesoft.
Send the logs to the boss.
It’s a good thing Israel would never want to develop software that spies, and that even if it did it would certainly never spy on America with it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new…
france24.com/…/20211103-us-blacklists-israeli-fir…
…and so on
yep - and if you all want to see the serious meat and potatoes of what we know about Israeli spyware, check out TheCitizenLab at the University of Toronto’s recent write up exposing Israeli spyware campaigns.
“then he accidentally posted them online under his war thunder account” would be a continuation that surprises none of us
What’s the problem?
Those 2 regimes are practically one.