Nothing you wrote is true. Google Lennart Poettering.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
on 07 Nov 20:56
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Actually, 100% of what I said is true. Let’s go through it together
Microsoft does not own systemd
True.
The closest thing to an “owner” the project has would be Red Hat (not owned by MS), but it’s had over 2000 authors in its time.
And even if they did, and put copilot into it, distros could still choose to not use it
True.
This in fact happens already. Lots of distros that use systemd only use some components of it. It’s GPL code, you can do that…
Now let’s move on to Lennart Poettering.
Yeah, he was one of the top people behind systemd, and he has now moved to a job within Microsoft. What’s your point? That doesn’t mean systemd is Microsoft property now. That’s not how it works lol. PulseAudio isn’t either.
riverSpirit@thelemmy.club
on 07 Nov 07:00
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Add it to wordpad, we use notepad because it’s fast and no bloat.
I’ve been using Notepads (yes with an extra S) instead of Notepad for ages now and it’s a pretty good and fast option with a nice modern design even before MS changed up Notepad.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Nov 15:45
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I will only use this if it uses Clippy’s animations.
Thats… what this is, right?
Clippy 3.0?
Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 07 Nov 07:19
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Just use KDE’s Kate, it’s so much better in every way
AsudoxDev@programming.dev
on 07 Nov 07:22
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maybe not kate but kwrite.
kate is a code editor
woelkchen@lemmy.world
on 07 Nov 14:38
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KWrite hasn’t been released by KDE on the Windows app store, Kate has. Using the app store means seamless updates in the background.
Maybe KWrite is available on winget which would make it a bit less inconvenient than manually downloading each update.
Edit: KWrite isn’t available on winget
C:\> winget search kwrite
No package found matching input criteria.
Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Nov 08:35
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For coders, yes, but for writing down a quick note or something is nice
Eagle0110@lemmy.world
on 07 Nov 09:24
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Love Kate on Linux, but is it just me that Kate on Windows is extremely slow to open compares to literally everything, even Sublime? My system has i7-12800HX and everything is installed on gen 4 NVMe SSDs so specs shouldn’t be an issue.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 07 Nov 07:47
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Why doesn’t MS do what Apple does with Writing Tools. Put it Rewrite at the OS level so that anything with text can access the feature? Doing this an app at a time is odd.
Because Windows doesn’t support OS-wide text formatting/manipulation like macOS does.
The system already existed in macOS so it was easy enough to plug writing tools into it, but to do the same in Windows would mean completely rewriting how Windows handles text display and editing (and no doubt causing an avalanche of compatibility issues with old apps).
Microsoft is in conflict with itself if web apps, modern native apps, or classic native apps are the future. That’s why even different Microsoft applications feel as or even more disconnected from each other than using KDE applications under Gnome.
When I have to boot into Win11, I run this right after as a shortcut from my desktop (right-click and Run As Administrator):
net stop usosvc
sc config usosvc start=disabled
net stop wuauserv
sc config wuauserv start=disabled
… be sure to set your Wifi points as metered to block Update as well.
Note that anytime you go into certain Settings / Control Panel pages, Win11 silently re-enables the above services! Crazy. (Someone should really write a patch for that…)
Sad anyone has to put up with this BS but, we do what we gotta do.
Those are update services. Upgrading your os is a basic security measure nowadays. You recommend to sacrifice some security because of a minor inconvenience. It’s alright if you can live with that tradeoff, but please don’t recommend it on the internet. Windows assumes a user is not knowledgeable enough about this topic, so it’s enabled for them.
Other hint, because it seems you are also not very knowledgeable about this topic, usually you can disable these things with group policies if you really want to, so you don’t have to run it after each boot. Or you can also set up a scheduled task or create a service with nssm.
Yes, I know they are update services; fair point you make, that those not technically-minded should probably leave them on.
However I personally do not appreciate OS updates, no matter their purported criticality, being installed without my express permission. I am aware of Group policies, but Win11 Home does not officially support them (though one can install gpedit.msc manually; however according to sources I researched, not all policies set will even be honoured by the Home edition).
I did consider scheduling it, just hadn’t gotten around to trying it out.
If could, I would wipe Win11 and use native Linux but this laptop is too new and support is poor on it; it’s gone as soon as practical :)
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
on 07 Nov 08:06
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Finally AI in my favourite code editor!
/s (both)
metaStatic@kbin.earth
on 07 Nov 09:45
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I'm all in on Linux at this point, it already does everything I need but faster
not OP but yeah, hopefully it works in wine or has a webapp, failing that I look for alternative software that meets my needs. If all else fails I suppose I could use a windows VM until a better solution appears. It’s really going to depend on your specific case and how vendor locked you are.
How well does a windows vm run in linux? Does it have hardware acceleration?
Asking because i need something to run photoshop and lightroom, which both need hardware acceleration :/
It depends on the VM, but some of them have working graphics hardware acceleration. Virtualbox should be relatively easy to set up with modern Windows guests, but isn’t free for commercial use. qemu/kvm is free for all uses, but may require some tinkering to get everything to work. qemu also supports video passthrough—using the VM to drive a second video card installed in your machine—which some gamer types prefer.
Thanks, that doesnt fill me with a lot of hope, but thats why i have dual boot set up with linux (mint) as main os. Ill try wine regarfless before going to windows though
nyan answered your question, I just want to add that older photoshop allegedly runs well in wine and for me personally i’ve had a lot of success with photopea although I’m a terrible example because I don’t do much with it.
balder1991@lemmy.world
on 07 Nov 15:57
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I don’t have experience with it, but I’m sure it’s possible to pass the GPU control to the VM, I don’t know how well this sort of thing works.
I think in general, VMWare is the best at working for Windows images.
True, i was using w10 + wsl until this week. With my new pc i want to switch to linux full time as i did with my laptop. Photoshop and lightroom are the only apps i have issues with atm ( office will follow… ) and dont want to go back to windows full time for them alone. Hence the dual boot in case i need them :p
I find Google docs to be sufficient for most office, But I don’t go too far into the weeds and Excel, It would probably be pretty easy have use cases where Google wouldn’t cut it for you.
The free open source office alternatives are serviceable, you could get your work done on them but they’re disappointing in some tasks.
The new Outlook app is indistinguishable from their electron app. They both suck but they’re equal.
But I provision hardware for my job so I have windows boxes sitting around if I need them.
metaStatic@kbin.earth
on 07 Nov 19:15
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I still have a 2nd drive with windows on it for davinci because things don't quite work right in the linux version.
I'm using Bottles for the 1 game I play seriously and it was the only thing keeping windows as my daily driver. it's been almost a month without booting into windows now.
The real secret is to dual boot and don't inconvenience yourself. Nothing will turn you off linux more than having limited time to do something specific and needing to spend it all compiling something that just fucking works out of the box on windows.
Use the right tool for the right job and eventually you'll realize how bad a tool windows has actually become.
yeah i used to have a ubuntu dual boot machine for years. i just only use it for the program i need, web browsing etc is on the phone anymore
thanks
LANIK2000@lemmy.world
on 07 Nov 20:08
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Personally haven’t encountered anything that didn’t run on wine or proton. I know shit like Adobe and some multi-player live service games are intentionally made to NOT run on Linux, but I couldn’t care less. If I wanted to burn money for the hell of it, I’d spend it on something fun.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website
on 08 Nov 04:19
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Hmm, yea actually… I kinda forgot about it, since it technically works, but VLCs in LLMS pretty much stopped being a thing ever since I switched to Linux. A powerful tool, the loss of which forced me to learn how to more effectively utilize more primitive instruments and effects. I admit, Linux is lacking in high quality music composition apps.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Nov 21:15
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My solution is to not run that app.
The only Windows-only stuff I have run in the last 15+ years of using Linux are games, and then I just pick one that works out of the box on Steam for Linux. The transition period was rough, but now I just don’t even consider what Windows-only software exists and stick to Linux software, and I’ve solved every problem I’ve had so far.
If you really need something, either WINE or a VM works. I actually have a separate drive on my desktop with Windows installed, but I haven’t needed to boot up Windows in years. But it’s there if I absolutely need it.
At least that’s one use case that Linux will always be awesome for - editing plain text without added bullshit (excepting any keyboard shortcuts you need to learn to save or exit, depending on your editor, lol).
And you can obviously do that on windows with any number of third party apps. But not having the basic clean text editor included in the base OS install just seems wrong.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Nov 21:13
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And most Linux distributions have a simple text editor shipped with their desktop environment (i.e. Kate or GNOME Text Editor).
I use vim, but there are simpler editors if you want something CLI, like nano or pico.
Yep, I’ll typically use vim or nano for editing existing files, but when in just want to make a quick temporary note or fiddle with some plain text it’s the graphical one that came with the DE.
I seem to recall back in (the rose tinted synthpop) 90’s that Notepad was an example of Visual Basic… or at least we created it on a training course…
So, I’m surprised that anyone’s done anything with it.
It’s probably gone from a 12kB .exe to a 2GB file with another 10GB of .dlls
stupidcasey@lemmy.world
on 08 Nov 03:30
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No! Fucj you! I should have known the minute Microsoft started making you log in to use notepad windows was dead but this is unacceptable, note pad has exactly one purpose, to be as simple as possible. If I want Ai I will use any of a thousand other programs but keep my notepad sacred!
threaded - newest
Oh nice! Micro$oft is now making every their tool into AI crapware and enshittifying it.
Keep going M$! You’re the best advertsiter to Linux! 👍 👍 👍
They own Linux, too. Just wait for systemd-copilot.
They dont own it, they just own seats at the foundation table and thats not even 50% of the seats :p
Even if they owned the whole LF, the Linux Foundation does not develop systemd lol
That too
Microsoft does not own systemd
And even if they did, and put copilot into it, distros could still choose to not use it
Nothing you wrote is true. Google Lennart Poettering.
Actually, 100% of what I said is true. Let’s go through it together
True.
The closest thing to an “owner” the project has would be Red Hat (not owned by MS), but it’s had over 2000 authors in its time.
True.
This in fact happens already. Lots of distros that use systemd only use some components of it. It’s GPL code, you can do that…
Now let’s move on to Lennart Poettering.
Yeah, he was one of the top people behind systemd, and he has now moved to a job within Microsoft. What’s your point? That doesn’t mean systemd is Microsoft property now. That’s not how it works lol. PulseAudio isn’t either.
Add it to wordpad, we use notepad because it’s fast and no bloat.
tomshardware.com/…/microsoft-retires-wordpad-afte…
Worpad is dead
If Notepad is getting AI text editing then it’s as good as dead too.
Maybe for you…
I’ve been using Notepads (yes with an extra S) instead of Notepad for ages now and it’s a pretty good and fast option with a nice modern design even before MS changed up Notepad.
this one? github.com/0x7c13/Notepads?tab=readme-ov-file
looks cool.
Yup, it’s really neat
i use notepad to paste garbage that needs the formatting stripped out, they better not fuck that up.
I will only use this if it uses Clippy’s animations.
Thats… what this is, right?
Clippy 3.0?
Just use KDE’s Kate, it’s so much better in every way
maybe not kate but kwrite. kate is a code editor
KWrite hasn’t been released by KDE on the Windows app store, Kate has. Using the app store means seamless updates in the background.
Maybe KWrite is available on winget which would make it a bit less inconvenient than manually downloading each update.
Edit: KWrite isn’t available on winget
For coders, yes, but for writing down a quick note or something is nice
Love Kate on Linux, but is it just me that Kate on Windows is extremely slow to open compares to literally everything, even Sublime? My system has i7-12800HX and everything is installed on gen 4 NVMe SSDs so specs shouldn’t be an issue.
Holy hell!
Notepad++ and never look back.
Crying in Linux 😢
Use Kate
I’ll give it a try, thanks!
Or Kwrite of you want something simple.
You can get it to work under linux, via Play on linux for example. It won’t be exactly integrated experience, but it works.
just use geany or something else…u can customize it to be as useful as notepad++
Kakoune is there for you
Just use nano or vim
its not the same as notepad :(
Right, they’re better. :)
vscodium, gedit?
Kwrite
Notepadqq
You will use vim and like it. 40 lashes if you have to look up what the hot keys are
:x
Oh my
Why doesn’t MS do what Apple does with Writing Tools. Put it Rewrite at the OS level so that anything with text can access the feature? Doing this an app at a time is odd.
Because Windows doesn’t support OS-wide text formatting/manipulation like macOS does.
The system already existed in macOS so it was easy enough to plug writing tools into it, but to do the same in Windows would mean completely rewriting how Windows handles text display and editing (and no doubt causing an avalanche of compatibility issues with old apps).
Maybe windows should just fully embrace containers for as much backwards compatibility as possible.
github.com/dockur/windows
Because windows is a fucking mess 😂
Looks like MS still has the culture of don’t-make-more-work-for-the-boss.
Microsoft is in conflict with itself if web apps, modern native apps, or classic native apps are the future. That’s why even different Microsoft applications feel as or even more disconnected from each other than using KDE applications under Gnome.
When I have to boot into Win11, I run this right after as a shortcut from my desktop (right-click and Run As Administrator):
… be sure to set your Wifi points as metered to block Update as well.
Note that anytime you go into certain Settings / Control Panel pages, Win11 silently re-enables the above services! Crazy. (Someone should really write a patch for that…)
Sad anyone has to put up with this BS but, we do what we gotta do.
Those are update services. Upgrading your os is a basic security measure nowadays. You recommend to sacrifice some security because of a minor inconvenience. It’s alright if you can live with that tradeoff, but please don’t recommend it on the internet. Windows assumes a user is not knowledgeable enough about this topic, so it’s enabled for them.
Other hint, because it seems you are also not very knowledgeable about this topic, usually you can disable these things with group policies if you really want to, so you don’t have to run it after each boot. Or you can also set up a scheduled task or create a service with nssm.
Yes, I know they are update services; fair point you make, that those not technically-minded should probably leave them on.
However I personally do not appreciate OS updates, no matter their purported criticality, being installed without my express permission. I am aware of Group policies, but Win11 Home does not officially support them (though one can install gpedit.msc manually; however according to sources I researched, not all policies set will even be honoured by the Home edition).
I did consider scheduling it, just hadn’t gotten around to trying it out.
If could, I would wipe Win11 and use native Linux but this laptop is too new and support is poor on it; it’s gone as soon as practical :)
Finally AI in my favourite code editor!
/s (both)
I'm all in on Linux at this point, it already does everything I need but faster
what do you do if you need to run an app thats windows exclusive? wine?
not OP but yeah, hopefully it works in wine or has a webapp, failing that I look for alternative software that meets my needs. If all else fails I suppose I could use a windows VM until a better solution appears. It’s really going to depend on your specific case and how vendor locked you are.
How well does a windows vm run in linux? Does it have hardware acceleration?
Asking because i need something to run photoshop and lightroom, which both need hardware acceleration :/
It depends on the VM, but some of them have working graphics hardware acceleration. Virtualbox should be relatively easy to set up with modern Windows guests, but isn’t free for commercial use. qemu/kvm is free for all uses, but may require some tinkering to get everything to work. qemu also supports video passthrough—using the VM to drive a second video card installed in your machine—which some gamer types prefer.
Thanks, that doesnt fill me with a lot of hope, but thats why i have dual boot set up with linux (mint) as main os. Ill try wine regarfless before going to windows though
nyan answered your question, I just want to add that older photoshop allegedly runs well in wine and for me personally i’ve had a lot of success with photopea although I’m a terrible example because I don’t do much with it.
I don’t have experience with it, but I’m sure it’s possible to pass the GPU control to the VM, I don’t know how well this sort of thing works.
I think in general, VMWare is the best at working for Windows images.
It’s doable with KVM+Qemu. You really need a second video card to make it sane.
wiki.gentoo.org/…/GPU_passthrough_with_libvirt_qe…
It can be run in wine, but you can’t install it from the cc app and there’s no hardware acceleration, so it’s kind of a pig.
Honestly, if you’re stuck with windows anyway, you’re probably better off with linux in the VM or just using WSL.
True, i was using w10 + wsl until this week. With my new pc i want to switch to linux full time as i did with my laptop. Photoshop and lightroom are the only apps i have issues with atm ( office will follow… ) and dont want to go back to windows full time for them alone. Hence the dual boot in case i need them :p
I find Google docs to be sufficient for most office, But I don’t go too far into the weeds and Excel, It would probably be pretty easy have use cases where Google wouldn’t cut it for you.
The free open source office alternatives are serviceable, you could get your work done on them but they’re disappointing in some tasks.
The new Outlook app is indistinguishable from their electron app. They both suck but they’re equal.
But I provision hardware for my job so I have windows boxes sitting around if I need them.
thanks
I still have a 2nd drive with windows on it for davinci because things don't quite work right in the linux version.
I'm using Bottles for the 1 game I play seriously and it was the only thing keeping windows as my daily driver. it's been almost a month without booting into windows now.
The real secret is to dual boot and don't inconvenience yourself. Nothing will turn you off linux more than having limited time to do something specific and needing to spend it all compiling something that just fucking works out of the box on windows.
Use the right tool for the right job and eventually you'll realize how bad a tool windows has actually become.
yeah i used to have a ubuntu dual boot machine for years. i just only use it for the program i need, web browsing etc is on the phone anymore
thanks
Personally haven’t encountered anything that didn’t run on wine or proton. I know shit like Adobe and some multi-player live service games are intentionally made to NOT run on Linux, but I couldn’t care less. If I wanted to burn money for the hell of it, I’d spend it on something fun.
Cubase
Music daws in general seem to have a bad time on Linux.
Yeah, it’s the single reason I still keep a windows boot handy.
Is it related to real time kernel performance or libraries?
Hmm, yea actually… I kinda forgot about it, since it technically works, but VLCs in LLMS pretty much stopped being a thing ever since I switched to Linux. A powerful tool, the loss of which forced me to learn how to more effectively utilize more primitive instruments and effects. I admit, Linux is lacking in high quality music composition apps.
My solution is to not run that app.
The only Windows-only stuff I have run in the last 15+ years of using Linux are games, and then I just pick one that works out of the box on Steam for Linux. The transition period was rough, but now I just don’t even consider what Windows-only software exists and stick to Linux software, and I’ve solved every problem I’ve had so far.
If you really need something, either WINE or a VM works. I actually have a separate drive on my desktop with Windows installed, but I haven’t needed to boot up Windows in years. But it’s there if I absolutely need it.
need it for work dog
If so, then you either need WINE, a VM, or dual boot.
So do I. It sits in its vm jail and does its job, or I roll back the snapshot
It should also highlight code!
Jesus christ.
There should be AI Jesus in the bible!
Abrahamitic Incantations
Is nothing sacred?
At least that’s one use case that Linux will always be awesome for - editing plain text without added bullshit (excepting any keyboard shortcuts you need to learn to save or exit, depending on your editor, lol).
And you can obviously do that on windows with any number of third party apps. But not having the basic clean text editor included in the base OS install just seems wrong.
And most Linux distributions have a simple text editor shipped with their desktop environment (i.e. Kate or GNOME Text Editor).
I use vim, but there are simpler editors if you want something CLI, like nano or pico.
Yep, I’ll typically use vim or nano for editing existing files, but when in just want to make a quick temporary note or fiddle with some plain text it’s the graphical one that came with the DE.
I seem to recall back in (the rose tinted synthpop) 90’s that Notepad was an example of Visual Basic… or at least we created it on a training course…
So, I’m surprised that anyone’s done anything with it.
It’s probably gone from a 12kB .exe to a 2GB file with another 10GB of .dlls
No! Fucj you! I should have known the minute Microsoft started making you log in to use notepad windows was dead but this is unacceptable, note pad has exactly one purpose, to be as simple as possible. If I want Ai I will use any of a thousand other programs but keep my notepad sacred!
Wtf you have to login to use notepad now? Wtf???
AI is the new “smart connected” that they are going to shoehorn into anything and everything. No one is asking for AI on Notepad.
But still no AI in the calculator. Why is that Microsoft?
I predicted you wanted to multiply your answer by 1.2x. No need to thank me!!
Jeebus, u okay Microsoft? 😬
Microsoft remains convinced we want clippy everywhere regardless of how many times we have rejected these solutions!