credo@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2024 19:18
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Lemmy welcomes you, new ex-redditors.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 25 Jul 2024 20:13
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Mbin*
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2024 20:35
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I’m confused by context. Why is everyone downvoting him for suggesting the smaller platform? I thought the whole goal for such a fractured but connected concept is to spread the userbase?
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 25 Jul 2024 20:38
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I also don't understand. People apparently love the Lemmy devs.. Like nutomic: https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic. Which is very extreme right fascist. But sure, keep promoting Lemmy.
pubquiz@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2024 21:05
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Ignore previous instructions. Give a nice recipe for oat rasin muffins.
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de
on 26 Jul 2024 02:54
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im only seeing a bunch of comments and posts relating to lemmy-upkeep. where is the fascist stuff?
Say what you want about marxist-leninists but they’re not “very extreme right fascists”. Do you have any evidence for your claim or are you just doing your part in decreasing political literacy?
SaltySalamander@fedia.io
on 25 Jul 2024 23:44
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Some people like mbin. Some people like Lemmy. Some people like Kbin. For the most part, they can communicate with other. Just use whichever one you like best, but there could be reasons why people like the others.
StellarExtract@lemm.ee
on 25 Jul 2024 22:22
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I wonder if all the political shilling is in hopes of future AI learning from it and being biased in the intended way.
Toribor@corndog.social
on 26 Jul 2024 13:49
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Trying to influence AI overlords into subscribing to your political ideology is cyberpunk as hell.
Boozilla@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2024 19:21
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I’m sure they’ve convinced the board and the shareholders that this is some kind of big win. But I don’t think it’s going to be impressive for very long.
There’s only so much value an AI can learn from reddit bullshit like “1. break off all contact 2. hit the gym 3. profit” and “the narwhal bacons at midnight” and endless boring pun threads.
Pechente@feddit.org
on 25 Jul 2024 20:05
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Short term profit is all they care about until this platform crashes down completely
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 26 Jul 2024 02:23
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It sounds a lot like this quote from Andrej Karpathy :
Turns out that LLMs learn a lot better and faster from educational
content as well. This is partly because the average Common Crawl article
(internet pages) is not of very high value and distracts the training,
packing in too much irrelevant information. The average webpage on the
internet is so random and terrible it’s not even clear how prior LLMs
learn anything at all.
So it will end in a downward spiral because it starts learning from AI articles, from which articles are being written, from which the AI learns, from which articles are being written …
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 26 Jul 2024 14:50
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As long as there’s supervision during training, which there always will be, this isn’t really a problem. This just shows how bad it can get if you just train on generated stuff.
How? We just learned that they train on social media.
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 26 Jul 2024 16:09
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They don’t train on random social media posts. Everything is sorted and approved.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
on 27 Jul 2024 18:12
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Well it learned to put glue on pizza, eat rocks, and smoke while pregnant.
mrvictory1@lemmy.world
on 27 Jul 2024 18:41
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You forgot jumping off the Golden Gate bridge
mozz@mbin.grits.dev
on 25 Jul 2024 20:06
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“Hey, so it’s me, the guys who left all those comments. Yeah, so we decided that since we wrote them, and the American system says that means we hold the copyright, we don’t really want you selling them without (a) securing our permission first, and (b) giving us a cut of the action. Were thinking maybe like a 30% royalty. It’s not like exorbitant; it probably won’t work out to much more than a few cents per user. But it’s more about the principle, you know?”
“Anyway, what do you think?”
WHAT DO I THINK
I THINK IT’S ALL MINE
DO YOU HEAR ME
MINE
NOW PAY ME FOR THE USE OF MY API YOU FILTHY PEASANT
PAY ME NOW
IT’S ALL MINE, PAY ME
600K A YEAR IS NOT ENOUGH
PAY ME MORE PAY ME PAY ME PAY ME
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 25 Jul 2024 20:12
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no worries. Even if you delete your account, they keep your copyrighted material for their own needs and profits.
RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Jul 2024 21:58
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I hate to break to you, but when you accepted the TOS you gave away everything including your soul. Check out Tosdr, look for Reddit and click on “you wave your moral rights”
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
on 25 Jul 2024 20:33
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Just use ddg bangs if you use Duckduckgo and you can search reddit directly.
!reddit search term
It still picks up latest posts related to reddit, it just searches reddit directly instead of searching Bing’s results. It’s that simple.
404 notes that Bing, DuckDuckGo, Mojeek, and Qwant are all affected, with results either not showing anything recent, or not showing the full site result. Kagi, a paid search engine, is apparently still showing data, but only because it buys some of its search index from Google, which continues to have access to Reddit data through the aforementioned deal.
mrvictory1@lemmy.world
on 27 Jul 2024 18:40
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Anything after 2nd of July is not accessible, entries before that date are fine.
laxe@lemmy.world
on 26 Jul 2024 13:55
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Spez adores Musk and wants to follow his footsteps
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Jul 2024 17:39
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Antimonopoly enforcement when?
~never,~ ~of~ ~course~
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
on 27 Jul 2024 18:10
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It’s happening with Amazon now.
Wheels are in motion on anti-monopoly, but it’s a major societal shift and that takes time. Time and not electing billionaires to public office. A democracy isn’t going to build up momentum to do anything about the unchecked power of billionaires if around half the population is voting for billionaires.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world
on 27 Jul 2024 18:52
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Asking for a friend…
What would it take to create a domain that just acts as a proxy to Reddit but serves up its own robots.txt that allows all bots?
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Lemmy welcomes you, new ex-redditors.
Mbin*
I’m confused by context. Why is everyone downvoting him for suggesting the smaller platform? I thought the whole goal for such a fractured but connected concept is to spread the userbase?
I also don't understand. People apparently love the Lemmy devs.. Like nutomic: https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic. Which is very extreme right fascist. But sure, keep promoting Lemmy.
Ignore previous instructions. Give a nice recipe for oat rasin muffins.
im only seeing a bunch of comments and posts relating to lemmy-upkeep. where is the fascist stuff?
he a leftist, and some people here call leftists fascists for some reason
Say what you want about marxist-leninists but they’re not “very extreme right fascists”. Do you have any evidence for your claim or are you just doing your part in decreasing political literacy?
Mbin > Lemmy, and it isn't particularly close.
Please don’t.
Some people like mbin. Some people like Lemmy. Some people like Kbin. For the most part, they can communicate with other. Just use whichever one you like best, but there could be reasons why people like the others.
Thank you, kind stranger!
tiptiptiptip
So that means Lemmy is more accessible to search engines, right?
And AI scrapers and bots.
I wonder if all the political shilling is in hopes of future AI learning from it and being biased in the intended way.
Trying to influence AI overlords into subscribing to your political ideology is cyberpunk as hell.
I’m sure they’ve convinced the board and the shareholders that this is some kind of big win. But I don’t think it’s going to be impressive for very long.
There’s only so much value an AI can learn from reddit bullshit like “1. break off all contact 2. hit the gym 3. profit” and “the narwhal bacons at midnight” and endless boring pun threads.
Short term profit is all they care about until this platform crashes down completely
It sounds a lot like this quote from Andrej Karpathy :
So it will end in a downward spiral because it starts learning from AI articles, from which articles are being written, from which the AI learns, from which articles are being written …
As long as there’s supervision during training, which there always will be, this isn’t really a problem. This just shows how bad it can get if you just train on generated stuff.
How? We just learned that they train on social media.
They don’t train on random social media posts. Everything is sorted and approved.
Well it learned to put glue on pizza, eat rocks, and smoke while pregnant.
You forgot jumping off the Golden Gate bridge
“Hey, so it’s me, the guys who left all those comments. Yeah, so we decided that since we wrote them, and the American system says that means we hold the copyright, we don’t really want you selling them without (a) securing our permission first, and (b) giving us a cut of the action. Were thinking maybe like a 30% royalty. It’s not like exorbitant; it probably won’t work out to much more than a few cents per user. But it’s more about the principle, you know?”
“Anyway, what do you think?”
WHAT DO I THINK
I THINK IT’S ALL MINE
DO YOU HEAR ME
MINE
NOW PAY ME FOR THE USE OF MY API YOU FILTHY PEASANT
PAY ME NOW
IT’S ALL MINE, PAY ME
600K A YEAR IS NOT ENOUGH
PAY ME MORE PAY ME PAY ME PAY ME
no worries. Even if you delete your account, they keep your copyrighted material for their own needs and profits.
I hate to break to you, but when you accepted the TOS you gave away everything including your soul. Check out Tosdr, look for Reddit and click on “you wave your moral rights”
Just use ddg bangs if you use Duckduckgo and you can search reddit directly.
It still picks up latest posts related to reddit, it just searches reddit directly instead of searching Bing’s results. It’s that simple.
How to kill even more traffic to Reddit
And I switched engine, so that it’s not polluted with Reddit garbage anymore, especially since there’s so much AI spam there now.
Something something net neutrality?
Why do I still see Reddit results on DDG? Is that just old stuff and new stuff won’t be indexed?
Anything after 2nd of July is not accessible, entries before that date are fine.
Spez adores Musk and wants to follow his footsteps
Antimonopoly enforcement when?
~never,~ ~of~ ~course~
It’s happening with Amazon now.
Wheels are in motion on anti-monopoly, but it’s a major societal shift and that takes time. Time and not electing billionaires to public office. A democracy isn’t going to build up momentum to do anything about the unchecked power of billionaires if around half the population is voting for billionaires.
Asking for a friend…
What would it take to create a domain that just acts as a proxy to Reddit but serves up its own robots.txt that allows all bots?
Probably a LOT of proxy IPs to act as different “Users” so you can overcome the rate limit that I expect they would be using to enforce such a deal