Brazil shuts BYD factory site over 'slavery' conditions (www.bbc.com)
from misk@sopuli.xyz to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 14:29
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Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 14:43 next collapse

You know the irony of this picture is that in the early 90’s myself and eight others tricked out a cargo container with scaffold build bunks on a job. We were not alone in doing this. We paid the plant we were working at a very small amount of money for electricity and used the showers in their plant locker room. We were of course being paid and were free to run to town anytime. We had large cookouts on any days off we had. Which were very few. Good times. I remember a week in Vegas after we finally got laid off.

Those poor souls though if they were forced to live like that need to be compensated.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 24 Dec 15:05 next collapse

A socialist corporation is still a corporation.

Aka parasite

zbyte64@awful.systems on 24 Dec 15:17 next collapse

Socialist like how Best Korea is a Democratic Republic.

SGforce@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 15:24 next collapse

A what?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 24 Dec 15:30 collapse

A corporate entity sanctioned by the Communist part of China

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 24 Dec 15:31 collapse

They aren’t state owned, they’re the largest private company in China (by number of employees), and have had plenty of issues with the authorities there.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 24 Dec 15:34 collapse

It is a legal entity incorporated under the laws of PRC lol

It is a fiction of Chinese law with everything that entails

BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de on 24 Dec 15:38 next collapse

I think the destinction between the chinese firm constructing the site and BYD itself is quite important here. I am absolutely not a fan of chinese car manufacturers but its just not the same as if BYD was operating the site right now and this news came to light

driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br on 24 Dec 18:35 next collapse

Outsourcing your slavery dosen’t make it any better.

kippinitreal@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 18:51 next collapse

Absolutely, ignorance is tantamount to complicity. Especially since BYD will earn a profit on their slave labor.

BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de on 24 Dec 18:56 next collapse

The site is not yet in operation. That has nothing to do with outsourcing... Its maybe bad supervision, but honestly most manufacturers fall in that category

pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online on 24 Dec 19:57 collapse

The slave labor is building the site.

CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee on 24 Dec 19:16 collapse

Some would argue that this is precisely why they ‘outsource’ just like mobsters do. It gives plausible deniability.

hmancuso@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 20:39 next collapse

It is the same, sorry. When you hire a third party to build or expand your business, you’re accountable for what happens under your nose. Simply pointing fingers to outsourced work as if it were beyond one’s control does not cut here. If you wish to operate in Brazil, you must comply with local legislation. And stating that some companies break the law is the same as saying that some people are turning a blind eye to the legislation, too. BYD management must choose which side of the legal fence they want to be. Cheers!

asret@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 23:38 collapse

If you outsource your work, you outsource your reputation. BYD is absolutely responsible for the conditions of the workers.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 16:06 next collapse

‘slavery’ in quotes really seems to soften the blow. Like the time I ‘punched’ my boss.

FuCensorship@lemmy.today on 24 Dec 16:42 collapse

Punching them softly

valkyre09@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 18:13 next collapse

🎵with his song…

GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 22:43 collapse

That makes me think of this. Not too painful but definitely humiliating.

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 16:33 next collapse

All of those chip factories Congress is funding building in the US? Congress is also trying to pass legislation to import underpaid Taiwanese labor for them. I expect the conditions won’t be better.

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 18:46 next collapse

Ah, I’ve asked my late dad’s friend recently how did it happen that my dad left Samsung (he didn’t tell me), and it was generally the same story about the famed Asian work ethic. Hardly compatible with correctness, having dignity and not being a snitch.

TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com on 24 Dec 18:49 collapse

prolly worthy of a whole 'nather post rather than derailing this one that isn’t about the US nor Taiwan.

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 19:25 collapse

My point is, it’s a trend we’re seeing in exploitation of factory workers where countries are trying to bring back manufacturing from China. A lot of the domestic manufacturing in Brazil is due to the high import tariffs, which is gaining popularity here in the states, so I expect we’ll see an increase of this kinda exploitation.

But yeah, you’re probably right.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 00:06 next collapse

There’s a good reason why their cars are cheap, and only one part of it is Chinese state subsidies.

NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 03:51 collapse

“Slavery-like conditions”, as defined by Brazilian law, include debt bondage and work that violates human dignity.

Remember this, everybody.