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from RedditEnjoyer@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 16:27
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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Jan 2024 16:49 next collapse

Founded in 2005 by web developer Steve Huffman and entrepreneur Alexis Ohanian, Reddit became best known for its niche discussion groups and its users voting “up” or “down” on the content posted by other members.

I appreciate this extremely sly shade at Steve Huffman.

He’s not an entreprenuer because he didn’t do dick between leaving Reddit and coming back to Reddit whereas Ohanian had a few other companies in his back pocket.

I mean, Ohanian sucks, too, but this sentence is just Reuters kicking dirt in Steve Huffman’s smarmy little bitch face and I’m fucking here for it.

[deleted] on 18 Jan 2024 16:55 next collapse

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match@pawb.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:26 next collapse

I’ve tried to go back to Reddit occasionally and it’s garbage, vastly more garbage than I remember last year, from the web design down to the userbase. Whereas I can’t recall a single time I’ve been on lemmy and encountered an [undeclared] bot

kescusay@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:31 next collapse

There are a few bots, mostly spammers. If you mod a community, you can see them. They’re typically caught by the spam filters before I even notice they’re there.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jan 2024 18:26 next collapse

Just today I noticed how low skilled the reddit base seems to be in my general meme/tech/piracy thrmed feed.
So many basic questions that could literally be answered by or get a start on from ChatGPT etc.
Instead they pollute the subs with their low effort requests for help or guidance.

Example: How to get started on pirating anime.

That was a legit title…

Hyperreality@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 11:13 collapse

The younger generation is less tech savvy than the millenial generation who were forced to figure stuff out themselves and didn't have smartphones.

I get the idea that a lot of people who emigrated to the fediverse are older and also more tech literate given all the linux memes.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jan 2024 16:09 collapse

I don’t want to bash those folks that want to liberate themselve but this is either a designed request to engage discussions (state a correct fact, nobody responds vs. state a purposefully wrong fact and everyone and their dogs will come to correct them) or they are literally unable to search google on how to pirate.

This is like being unable to look up porn by themselve searching “Woman tits naked”.

Hyperreality@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 17:11 collapse

You have a point. Helps increase engagement, like making a spelling mistake or rage bait.

Tiresome, but common.

agent_flounder@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:19 collapse

Same. It’s pretty damn terrible.

EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website on 18 Jan 2024 17:37 next collapse

You too buddy!

Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 20:01 collapse

The fediverse has better memes anyway

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:49 collapse

Although the Star Trek memes factionalized faster than I would have expected.

ericisshort@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 18:07 collapse

And Huffman’s programming skills weren’t even that great because they quickly brought in Aaron Schwartz to make it all work, yet they always conveniently leave him off of the founders’ list.

Kyrgizion@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:40 next collapse

This is literally the story of almost every successful tech venture. Even in the company I work for, the CEO was a former salesperson while the dev who started it all was still a dev after 20 years. He singlehandedly created the entire product catalog but no one outside of the company knows his name. The CEO’s name is all over everything, including a “book” he “wrote”.

There’s always a low profile nerd somewhere in the background who is absolutely key to the whole operation but they rarely get cred.

hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 20:58 collapse

Man I wish you were wrong but I have seen this exact thing 95% of the times I had a look behind closed doors of companies.

And even more dumb: this nerd usually gets undervalued, and as soon as they leave, it takes about half a year for ppl to realize how fucked they are and frantic recruitment noises to fill the offices in the hopes to pick up the pieces.

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 11:48 collapse

There is a certain satisfaction in leaving a job and then hearing they had to hire three new people to do what you did.

Uglyhead@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:51 collapse

Huffman was fucking pissed about how good Alien Blue and Apollo were. He bought and absolutely fucking ruined AB and when he couldn’t buy Apollo (he tried) he crushed it under his boot heel.

Spitzspot@lemmings.world on 18 Jan 2024 16:57 next collapse

When can we start shorting the stock? /s

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Jan 2024 17:00 next collapse

Hmmm, let’s see.


  • Failing company rooted in a more traditional framework they’re trying to break out of

  • Said company has no idea what they’re doing and keep doing ridiculous things to “break out of” traditional framework

  • Keeps doing things no user/customer asked for

  • Said company has no real effective long-term game-plan and keeps changing tack because of bad previous choices

  • There’s a good chance the company could go completely bust because of lack of good business plan and solid leadership


Redditors: Reddit is the new GameStop!! DRS!! MOASS!!!

Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:15 next collapse

Keeps doing things no user/customer asked for

I'm pretty sure the advertisers - their real customers - asked them to show more ads.

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Jan 2024 17:17 collapse

Huffman is ostensibly following Elon Musk’s lead, and last I checked, Musk had pretty effectively chased away a massive amount of what one might call “rational” advertisers. Reddit is absolutely following a similar path, and soon enough there will be advertisers who no longer want to be associated with a toxic brand.

Nollij@sopuli.xyz on 18 Jan 2024 17:44 next collapse

Ostensibly? I think you mean obviously/openly.

nbcnews.com/…/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo…

It’s not just similarities; Steve Huffman is openly and directly copying Musk. Honestly, given Ex-Twitter’s performance, I have no idea why any investors are allowing that.

athos77@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:55 collapse

spez doesn't care. He's realized that, despite his best befuddled efforts, reddit is failing and that no one else will hire him for a cushy CEO job. He wants to take his bag and leave while the getting is still (relatively) good.

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:06 next collapse

Blatantly wrong

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Jan 2024 21:12 collapse

I fucking love dumbshit comments like these!

“I’m going to say this comment is totally wrong, but I don’t actually care enough about the issue to explain it or use more than *checks notes… two words to justify my position.”

Fucking hilarious, every time.

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:50 collapse

It’s unlikely I’ll write a longer answer on my phone. But if all you have is ridicule again, and insults, I’ll leave you with some short thoughts.

Gamestop has been doing fairly well, looking at financials. And people complain about not owning their virtual stuff, which NFT smart contracts could be a solution for. I don’t necessarily agree on the the specifics for blockchain based solution though, nor did I like the picturefest which only obfuscated good use cases.

Edit: unlike of course vague half truths

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 11:44 collapse

Imagine simping for NFTs in 2024.

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 12:24 collapse

It’s a technology, simple as. But since we’re back at the start, who profits the most from not moving status quo?

What other viable and available technology options are there for a system where the consumer can somewhat freely do what they want with digital assets?

And wtf simping? Wat

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 13:11 collapse

What other viable and available technology options are there for a system where the consumer can somewhat freely do what they want with digital assets?

NFTs do nothing to help this.

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 14:01 collapse

How do you figure?

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 14:02 collapse

In that they do nothing to fix it. How do you figure they would work? Or do you expect me to prove a negative? Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 14:50 collapse

But it does work? And just fundamentally why wouldn’t it as a concept?

Gods Unchained, immutable X. NFT is a back-end tech and no one should buy anything just because it is a NFT. The whole idea is to add to the value proposition for the customer/end user

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 14:57 collapse

No, it does not work. It’s a URL that’s attached to a blockchain. That’s it. The URL can disappear, or you can create a parallel blockchain with the same URL given to someone else.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 15:14 collapse

What’s with the straw men? Make your point only instead.

That could be applied to anything, stuff on Steam only exist as long as Steam does or allows it to, however does the “URL” have to be accepted if it’s out of network? I don’t think it does. Still, there are inherent flaws in a blockchain system.

Much like I can make a fake cd key and try to use matlab, but they won’t accept it

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 15:31 collapse

You’re asking me to prove a negative. Making fun of that isn’t a strawman.

Steam works because we all decide to trust it. Same with fiat currency. There is no singular trustworthy blockchain, and I don’t think there will be. Even then, owning a URL in the system doesn’t solve any problem.

HerrBeter@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 16:18 collapse

I didn’t, the premise that anyone can copy the blockchain and gain access to the assets is flawed. You’ll have to look up the Immutable X implementation, it was too long since I read about it, if you’re curious. Like I don’t think there will ever be a digital version of ownership that isn’t “a url” since, well it’s digital. The url and wallet is connected to the thing blabla

But you don’t own your things. Steam even restricted my access to my things because I hadn’t bought anything from their store in an arbitrary amount of time, I bought from other places and entered the cd key. The “web2” way of centralisation is also flawed.

Is it the one and true only answer, I don’t know, probably not in its current form albeit it is functional (immutable X). But the arguments against NFTs are mostly against these ducking pictures that ruined any possibility of working towards a goal where we as consumers could get more value.

Edit: appeal to ridicule is also a fallacy

Mechaguana@programming.dev on 18 Jan 2024 22:29 collapse

Dont forget the booooots sooo mannny boooots how the hell are there such low effort bots everywhere on that site

SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:02 next collapse

If you really want to sabotage, just upload lots of videos to subreddits that you can’t advertise on.

match@pawb.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:27 next collapse

so use Reddit for exclusively porn? way ahead of you

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:37 next collapse

Im betting porn only has a year or 2 left on reddit. They already been slowly purging for years. Got to keep the advertisers happy.

Gigan@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:39 next collapse

There was some other social media site that banned porn a few years ago, I think it was Tumblr? I wonder how that worked out for them.

NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:40 next collapse

Let me check my Tumblr, oh wait. I don’t have one.

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:42 next collapse

What's even there now? I only knew of tumbler because of the anime titties.

LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jan 2024 18:31 collapse

It’s been pretty active all this time tbh. I didn’t notice getting worse, but then I was never there for the porn.

Maybe not active in the right way from an advertising perspective idk, but it’s never been lacking good content.

Bipta@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 18:05 next collapse

Tumblr reversed their ban a year ago, so that's pretty self evident.

Asidonhopo@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 05:18 collapse

It was only a partial reversal from what I’ve heard.

FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 11:29 next collapse

They reversed the ban and in any case, there was still a shit ton of porn on the site, it was just written rather than drawn.

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 11:42 collapse

OnlyFans tried a while back. There was probably some internal political maneuvering going on with that one.

trk@aussie.zone on 19 Jan 2024 12:16 collapse

Isn’t the whole point of that platform porn though?

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 13:05 collapse

Tells you how scarred advertisers are of a titty.

frezik@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 13:27 collapse

OnlyFans isn’t funded by advertising. It appears to be the credit card industry at the heart of this one.

OminousOrange@lemmy.ca on 19 Jan 2024 14:33 collapse

I think it was Freakonomics that did a series on it? But yeah, quite an interesting and convoluted series of events.

chrishazfun@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 06:51 collapse

2 years left till the inevitable porn ban on reddit and 3 years till that decision kills them

LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 18:53 next collapse

Lemmy has way better quality porn

Igloojoe@lemm.ee on 18 Jan 2024 19:29 next collapse

Disagree. Lemmy’s porn in like 75% just bots reposting content.

hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 20:50 collapse

Although this is to be expected, and at least this means we have content, it is also a bit unfortunate.

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jan 2024 04:11 collapse

The Bot content is utter garbage. A good chunk of it is reddit links to old stuff. I’m sick of seeing Bot posts from reddit where someone posted a question 3 years ago.

match@pawb.social on 18 Jan 2024 23:01 next collapse

Maybe so, but it doesn’t have my porn

joshoff@lemmynsfw.com on 19 Jan 2024 03:16 collapse

Not if you’re gay

knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 20:28 next collapse

But they killed APIs entirely for nsfw, so that is broken now too.

Salix@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 23:18 collapse

You can technically just make yourself a mod of your own private subreddit, then NSFW works fine with the API. It works with RedReader. I still use Reddit a bit for very niche subreddits.

RadialMonster@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 01:48 collapse

Reddit doesn’t allow NSFW videos on their own hosting service

wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:28 collapse

brb time to launch my porn career!

CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:03 next collapse

Prob didnt need the /s

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:20 collapse

It takes a few weeks for options to become available, but they will.

If you have a shit ton of money you can buy shorts directly.

LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 01:30 collapse

Why do ya need tons of money for shorts? I can buy some $15 shorts at Walmart just easily.

MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:01 next collapse

Fuck Reddit. Scumbags.

RIP Aaron.

FenrirIII@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:05 next collapse

Amen.

hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 20:48 collapse

RIP Aaron indeed. May his fighting spirit be the anchor point for any community that’s succeeding Reddit.

ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jan 2024 13:53 collapse

Aaron’s actions have inspired maia arson crimew.

nicetriangle@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:10 next collapse

I’d expect another big exodus around then.

troyunrau@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 17:19 next collapse

Yes. Best thing we can do is be ready (from a tech perspective) and welcoming (from a human perspective). They’ll come or they won’t.

Compared to summer, Lemmy now has thousands more users, hundreds of active communities (no where near Reddit yet on niche subjects), actual made-on-lemmy content in a bunch of places, and a bunch of apps that mostly have the bugs worked out. It’s probably fair more appealing now to join than it was in summer.

We still have roadblocks: general confusion about federation (the email analogy seems to be working best), difficulty properly explaining how to sign up, a harder time finding communities, and it’s impossible to migrate between instances without starting fresh.

Mereo@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 17:39 next collapse

User migration is now possible in Lemmy 0.19:

Users can now export their data (community follows, blocklists, profile settings), and import it again on another instance. This can be used for account migrations and also as a form of backup. The export format is designed to remain unchanged for a long time. You can make regular exports, and if the instance becomes unavailable, register a new account and import the data. This way you can continue using Lemmy seamlessly.

Source: join-lemmy.org/…/2023-12-15_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19…

troyunrau@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 21:23 collapse

Oh hey, I guess I learned something today :)

0.19 has been a real improvement in many ways. I’m a huge fan of the Scaled sort – it helps the niche community content to surface.

Mkengine@feddit.de on 18 Jan 2024 21:57 collapse

Do you use an app or the website for this feature?

Mereo@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 22:01 collapse

Scaled sort? Both. The app needs to support 0.19 though.

Mkengine@feddit.de on 19 Jan 2024 08:22 collapse

I tested Sync and Boost but can’t find it. Which app do you use where this already works?

Mereo@lemmy.ca on 19 Jan 2024 15:05 collapse

I’m on iOS. I use Voyager and Mlem and both have it.

gt24@lemmy.sdf.org on 18 Jan 2024 17:47 next collapse

Confusion about federation is not helped by federation not working recently due to a few notable Lemmy bugs (which are now fixed). Hopefully anyone new coming over doesn’t encounter any new major bugs.

OpenStars@startrek.website on 18 Jan 2024 18:01 next collapse

All those toxic Redditors coming here… I hope we can manage to significantly beef up the mod tools before then.

Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Jan 2024 18:02 next collapse

no where near Reddit yet on niche subjects

I’m always saddened by how not-active some of those subjects are. For example: Even many large games struggle to have dedicated, active communities on Lemmy (assuming I’m not terrible at finding them, which is sadly also possible). Even some of the largest games have only completely dead communities here. A huge draw of Reddit for me was to be able to talk about the games I play with other people who do too. And mostly, the games I’d love to talk about aren’t in the top 10 most played games list.

Now I could try to (re)vitalize those communities I would love to see around, and I have done so shortly after the exodus (on my previous account that died with the instance it was on). However, there’s only so much talking into the void I can do until it gets boring.

I also feel like that might be a big issue for people coming over. After I manage to explain to my friends how federation works, they ask me to help them find the [topic of their interest] community, and all I can show them is a community with 10 threads, all over 3 months old and with 0 comments. Sadly it shouldn’t surprise anyone they’re not sticking around after that.

troyunrau@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 18:25 next collapse

I think part of the problem is that we migrants decided that each reddit community also needed a corresponding lemmy community right out of the gate. For example, on reddit, there is r/hockey, then there’s a sub for each individual team. However on lemmy, the team subs are dead due to insufficient traffic, and stay dead due to the exact chicken-and-egg problem you describe. The solution is to congregate in a larger community instead, where traffic is higher, even if you’re posting about your relatively popular game. So as a Winnipeg Jets fan, I should post in the lemmy hockey community and not the Jets community. Likewise, if you want more chatter about Cyberpunk2077, post in the general gaming community. It works reasonably well for now, and if the signal to noise ratio ever gets bad in the larger community, then you can split off into specialty topics.

Ironically, reddit also went through this exact process 10-12 years ago. r/science became too noisy, so people ended up in r/physics and r/chemistry, and r/askscience and such. We need to start with communities with larger scope until they’re active enough to split.

At this very moment I’m looking for a discussion on sci fi oriented table top rpgs. On reddit, there is dedicated discussion forums for a few of them. Here, I’ll post to !rpg@ttrpg.network because there’s more people there. Off I go!

towerful@programming.dev on 18 Jan 2024 19:34 collapse

Exactly.
Communities need to be more generic until a specialisation becomes too much of the content, then a specific community should be started.

Obi@sopuli.xyz on 19 Jan 2024 07:26 collapse

Basically this is similar to my “organicness” argument. Reddit grew over many years and these niche subs got created as they were needed, not all at once. On Lemmy and the Fediverse in general, there will be another layer of organic growth and organisation with regards to federation, where instances will clump into “neighbourhoods” that users can choose.

JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:36 collapse

I feel like in some big game communities (like BG3) it looks deader than it should but if you post something you actually get quite a few replies. People are there it’s just that not everyone feels like making a new post.

Though I agree that concentrating on more generic communities for now is a good solution

BudgieMania@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 18:07 next collapse

I find Kbin's Collections feature a good fix for federation confusion. Honestly I think it should be the default type of view when browsing communities, you need to abstract the average user from federation as much as possible and leave browsing by instance as an advance option for those that want to engage with federation in detail

hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 21:04 collapse

I still feel like if we want to grow faster organically we need to natively support more “discovery functions”. Just things that you can toggle off like for example a recommendation screen and stuff. The algorithm for it we can make and adapt open source so no one is scared we collect data.

We’re running into the Linux Vs Windows problem, where you can technically do more stuff and have more control over you account on Lemmy, but you need to be familiar with the fediverse before joining, just to Unterstand how to use Lemmy. That’s a big problem for any potential new user.

Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jan 2024 04:23 collapse

Scaled filter in 19.X helps with that

Aatube@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:24 collapse

If a user didn’t exodus for the popular subs last time, I don’t see why they would this time.

Donut@leminal.space on 18 Jan 2024 17:29 collapse

Some of those popular subs were reopened with a new mod team that falls in line. Spez was too busy stuffing his ears with ad money instead of listening to his stakeholders

Aatube@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:31 collapse

The point being?

That new mod team is obviously full of loyal Redditors.

Donut@leminal.space on 19 Jan 2024 09:29 collapse

Point being casual users didn’t see much interruption in the popular subs. So they did not have much incentive to switch to another platform.

Aatube@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 13:03 collapse

“Didn’t see much interruption”? It was all over r/all and they simply decided to not switch. How will less people remaining to protest make more of a difference?

foggy@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:31 next collapse

Buying puts on that bitch on day 1.

MrJameGumb@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:34 next collapse

Is it even worth anything to investors anymore at this point? Huffman kind of destroyed any faith anyone had in Reddit, seems like it’s just going to slowly turn into an ad distribution service to scam people who don’t know any better lol

Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 17:43 next collapse

Well yeah, but that’s worth a lot.

Nollij@sopuli.xyz on 18 Jan 2024 17:50 next collapse

There’s always some value to vultures (and vulture capital) that want to pick over the pieces. It might even still have meaningful value as an ongoing social media platform. But the expected IPO value has dropped heavily in the past few years, and is likely to keep dropping. This really isn’t because of anything at Reddit, but of the financial markets in general.

The big question is how will investors feel about the potential for returns, i.e. revenues. I expect to see (well, read about) a whole lot of enshittification over there. Much more data mining, ads, freemium features, etc.

athos77@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 17:51 collapse

I've said myself that reddit's biggest assets were it's passionate userbase and it's trove of commentary. But I remember reading a comment, years ago now, that reddit's biggest asset was it's profile data. They know what communities you visited, and which you were most passionate about. They know what specific topics and keywords got you involved in a conversation. They know the content that you upvote and that you downvote. They know roughly where you live, what times you're online. They probably have a decent idea of your job and how much you earn. They data is worth something to data brokers, and it wouldn't surprise me if they start selling it after the IPO.

Gork@lemm.ee on 18 Jan 2024 17:51 next collapse

Hope we see some more migration. Lemmy is miniscule in comparison, with 60,000 active users by last count across all instances.

Heck, even /r/mildyinteresting has 220,000 users and that isn’t even the main subreddit, it’s a misspelled version of /r/mildlyinteresting.

Hyperreality@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 18:12 next collapse

/r/videos used to be a default and supposedly has millions of subscribers, but when I was still on reddit you'd regularly see content with 100 upvotes reach the top of the subreddit and maybe 10 comments. Often this was on bot reposts.

Their numbers should be take with a huge grain of salt.

skarlow181@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 09:52 collapse

And the real strength of Reddit isn’t the huge subreddits anyway, they are mostly just trash. It’s all the niche communities, most of them haven’t moved away, or if they have, they moved to Discord.

1984@lemmy.today on 18 Jan 2024 19:01 next collapse

I think it’s fine. Lemmy was actually nicer with less users. Now it grew a bit and all the trolls also came along. If it becomes huge, it will probably lose most of its charm.

Bigger is actually not better sometimes I think.

I’m happy right now with it. But sure, mostly memes and Linux stuff which I like, so…

ieightpi@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 19:38 collapse

Also Reddit has been around for over a decade and lemmy has existed for about 4 years. It’s hard to compare the two in that regard.

AlexisFR@jlai.lu on 18 Jan 2024 18:04 next collapse

I hope the STONKS Apes are ready…

AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 19:19 collapse

They will short the fuck out of it. There is literally no way this company can make money without making the product so much worse they will really start bleeding the users they need for revenue. It will explode on launch week and crash two or three weeks later.

yggstyle@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:04 collapse

Long short, long volatility until it flatlines. Basically free money. Their product is users and their data. If they upset the ecosystem users leave and decrease valuations… leads to layoffs and cost saving measures. Rinse and repeat until sufficiently dead.

AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 22:10 collapse

The second they're publicly traded layoffs will simply be part of the cycle regardless of stock performance. C-Level must be seen to do SOMETHING to generate profits, or at least try. Regulators suck hard at following up on anything, but you gotta play by the book to keep them from sniffing around.

I'm also fully expecting this to be a case of butchering the pig. Huffman and the other cunts in charge will sell of their shares, make millions and run it into the ground. Much less scrutiny if a publicly traded company evaporates due to bad stock performance than when a private company suddenly disintegrates and the C-Level runs away with all the cash. Blame it on the STONK crowd and you're literally golden.

I'm sure they'll try and make as much money on the way out as possible, but tinfoil: This is the start of the end with a certain degree of intent by those in charge of that fucking company.

yggstyle@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:24 collapse

Without a doubt. They can’t reasonably increase revenue so they need to pad* the books with layoffs. Those will result in the platform rotting out (further) from the inside. That’s the long short position. Long volatility while the price bounces around like a coked up jack russel terrier.

webghost0101@sopuli.xyz on 18 Jan 2024 18:07 next collapse

The offering would also test the willingness of some Reddit users to back the company’s stock market debut. Many investors posting on the platform have helped fuel dozens of “meme” stock rallies in the last three years.

Whatever nonsense the’re implying here is twisted and awefull. Like they owe it to the platform?

Rentlar@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 18:35 collapse

How are futures doing on MemeEconomy?

Over here on Lemmy, Star Trek memes are doing fine, so that bodes well for our future stonks.

webghost0101@sopuli.xyz on 18 Jan 2024 18:53 collapse

No idea, my account over there got soft-locked more than a year ago, moved here when Apollo stopped letting me lurk.

Surey those communities moved over aswell? Cant imagine its more then bots and my dad nowadays.

twinnie@feddit.uk on 18 Jan 2024 18:13 next collapse

Seems like a terrible investment, I can’t see what they can possibly do to add value. Everybody who wants to use Reddit is already on it and anything they do to try and milk it will just lose them users.

Corgana@startrek.website on 18 Jan 2024 22:56 collapse

I’ve had the impression for a long time that Reddit could stand to lose a large part of its users in order to be more profitiable. The nerds getting into long winded “ackchually” “debates” are making the site worse for the meme scrollers and they are also not the type to click on ads. They’re not trying to attract more users, they want to maximise revenue from the existing pool. I don’t think it’s a coincidence Reddit has been slowly moving away from “discussion board” and towards image and short video (like the other three big platforms) because that’s where the money’s at.

My prediction is that shortly after the IPO we’ll see .old go away, and a further sterilizing of subreddits ability to forge unique identities. The only question I have is how do they expect to attract sufficient moderators, buuuut they haven’t had trouble after the API debacle so maybe there are more people willing to provide free labor than I assume!

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Jan 2024 01:11 collapse

The only question I have is how do they expect to attract sufficient moderators

I mean YouTube comment sections were known for years to be an unmoderated nightmare of just people saying the absolute dumbest shit.

YouTube was and still is the most popular video site.

I think reddit has just stopped caring about the real content of the comments since, like you said, they’ve pretty much pivoted to images and video. Expect the comments section to be further eroded as well, in the name of needing less moderation. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Reddit do an “AI” push where the “AI” is mostly just replacing moderators with what amounts to a more advanced automod.

Diplomjodler@feddit.de on 18 Jan 2024 18:24 next collapse

Cool. That’ll be a fun trainwreck to watch.

ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 18:48 next collapse

… And so it begins…

negativenull@lemm.ee on 18 Jan 2024 21:06 collapse

… And so it begins continues …

TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:27 collapse

This cannot continue.

atx_aquarian@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 19:00 next collapse

Isn’t this just a business article?

gregorum@lemm.ee on 18 Jan 2024 19:42 collapse

about a tech company

1984@lemmy.today on 18 Jan 2024 19:00 next collapse

Grabbing popcorn, I’m ready to be entertained by their failure. :)

dan1101@lemm.ee on 18 Jan 2024 21:02 collapse

Lots of people will buy the stock because $$$. Reddit site will get worse and worse as they cater to shareholders.

TORFdot0@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 19:46 next collapse

Well we have 6 weeks to prepare for the next mass exodus lads and lassies

tourist@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:41 next collapse

i.e. Have a backup account on a small instance ready for when the big ones get ddos’d

jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev on 19 Jan 2024 02:21 collapse

Do one better, run your own instance

sennheisenberg@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Jan 2024 02:54 collapse

After the CSAM spam? Hell no.

Damage@slrpnk.net on 18 Jan 2024 21:34 collapse

Why should the IPO change anything at this point? It’s not like it’ll have any immediate effects on the website.

TORFdot0@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:37 collapse

It’s not the IPO that will cause the exodus. Its the first actions that Reddit takes to appease shareholders that will cause people to leave

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:46 collapse

The Lemmy Piracy communities are about to receive the last of the dedicated reddit holdouts.

chrishazfun@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 06:56 collapse

With the latest decisions related to discussions of piracy on Reddit I wouldn’t be surprised if piracy specifically gets added to a list of banned topics.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jan 2024 19:46 next collapse

Goodness I hope the gamestop nerds find a way to absolutely destroy this. If there is any chance of a scheme working, I will invest.

CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:01 next collapse

Time to buy shorts. Or puts. Or kangaroos. Whatever.

I don’t know a fucking thing about stonks.

androogee@midwest.social on 18 Jan 2024 21:07 next collapse

Perfect, you’ll fit right in

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jan 2024 04:16 next collapse

It will launch, spike up a little that day, then drop pretty hard for a month or so, getting down to about 60% of its launch price, before slowly gaining back up to around 80% of its launch price after several months.

drphungky@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 05:20 collapse

Also, my prediction is that big puts will be selling for way higher than their likelihood, because so many retail investors want to to fail. So even though the stock will go down, tons of people will lose money betting that.

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jan 2024 07:10 collapse

For sure. Calls and puts both will go overpriced. Be a lot of “enthusiasts” buying options for funsies thinking they’ll totally be right.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jan 2024 15:53 collapse

It’s winter here. I’m gonna buy pants.

jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev on 19 Jan 2024 02:23 collapse

I had to go and check wsb to see what the chatter was on this. Looks like they share the same sentiments tbh

Edit: Looks like they could use some Lemmy enlightenment tbh

Gazumi@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:32 next collapse

What if Musk buys the front page of the internet. There are some interesting Pro’s and Cons Edit: interesting doesn’t mean good

NickwithaC@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:38 next collapse

What would you consider to be a “pro” here?

uranibaba@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:46 collapse

Reddit going under?

distantsounds@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:05 next collapse

They don’t need any help with that

Dehydrated@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:13 collapse

They already have spez. He will make it happen.

dynamojoe@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:41 collapse

He can buy in but he can’t buy all of Reddit. According to the article the IPO will only be for 10% of the company. If he goes in, that’s only going to drive up the price.

aeharding@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:02 next collapse

Oh good, some breathing room to finish Voyager’s new onboarding flow

ripcord@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 01:33 next collapse

Voyager?

aeharding@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 01:45 next collapse

It’s a Lemmy client. One of many. :)

github.com/aeharding/voyager#readme

werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 04:43 collapse

I’m using it right now, it’s so much more usable than Lemmy. But that’s whats great about opensource. You can come up with your own changes or a big group can polish an ugly turd into something awesome.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 04:51 collapse

It was after Deep Space 9

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jan 2024 07:15 collapse

Also in eurovision

Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 07:29 collapse

Also one of two shuttles that have been exploring the universe outside of our solar system. Think one is dead now though.

[deleted] on 19 Jan 2024 10:41 collapse

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jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev on 19 Jan 2024 02:20 next collapse

Onboarding flow? Are they making like a fediverse tutorial or something?

aeharding@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 02:34 collapse

I’ve been adding signup support and making login a bit nicer too. Some screenshots

jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev on 19 Jan 2024 02:41 next collapse

oh shiiiit you’re the voyager dev! Pretty legit, the changes look helpful

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jan 2024 07:14 collapse

I do wish they tried to push people to smaller servers instead of cramming everyone in the same top 3. Send people to the server which matches their interests

theangryseal@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:05 collapse

I’m on voyager now. Thank you. :)

My shortcut is still called wefwef but I know what I’m using haha, I’m just lazy.

I love the app and you made my transition from Apollo so easy. I would probably be wandering around in the dark with no content if you hadn’t pulled this off. So again, thank you.

Flex@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:28 next collapse

Wouldn’t be surprised to see lemmy activity spike in March. Probably not as big as during the API debacle, but still.

Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jan 2024 21:29 next collapse

Good luck Mr. Gorsky

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:20 next collapse

Easiest short of my life.

theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Jan 2024 22:32 next collapse

Ooh, I can finally short!

cley_faye@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 22:34 next collapse

I’m curious how they will tank their worth by then, as is tradition.

giacomo@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 04:51 next collapse

When can I buy puts?

milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev on 19 Jan 2024 04:53 next collapse

I’ve never bought options before, but I’m in for 10grand and shorting the shit out of this.

assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 06:14 next collapse

TLDR how do?

Aabbcc@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 08:02 next collapse

Short version: don’t

Long version: doooooooooont fuck with options. Knowing that reddit is going to tank is not enough of an edge for you to be able to make winning trades

assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 19:35 collapse

You know. Fair enough!

[deleted] on 19 Jan 2024 10:38 collapse

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cooopsspace@infosec.pub on 19 Jan 2024 06:23 next collapse

Proof or ban

Oh wait, I forgot we aren’t on wallstreet

Jeremyward@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 06:59 collapse

We need a Lemmy version of WSB

Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Jan 2024 10:45 next collapse

Do we really though? Don’t get me wrong it’s some of the most entertaining content I’ve seen on the Internet but I think it brings more harm than good on the whole, especially with the fervor around GME that spun off into being downright delusional. I’d prefer if we don’t end up bringing that over here tbh.

I think the ‘old’ wsb even would be sort of borderline with the egging on and memefication of gambling one’s life savings on weeklies

Jeremyward@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 17:04 collapse

I guess I mean the old version prior to the GME and AMC fiasco.

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 13:02 collapse

A summoning circle for corpo bots?

Jeremyward@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 06:58 next collapse

Usually they don’t allow options on new stocks until after the cutoff period. Unless your broker allows naked shorting.

viking@infosec.pub on 19 Jan 2024 08:38 collapse

Probably not through some online broker, but OTC with an actual trading desk you can short just about anything. In the end it’s just a contract.

mcmoor@bookwormstory.social on 19 Jan 2024 09:04 collapse

Well then you need someone on the other side of the deal.

themaninblack@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 09:49 next collapse

I think what may buoy them is the fact that you must append “Reddit” to searches, however, ChatGPT, DuckDuckGo, and Kagi are giving them a run for their money

nutsack@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 11:02 next collapse

I don’t really care about Reddit but this is probably a bad idea

GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk on 19 Jan 2024 12:57 next collapse

If you’re serious, just remember the old saying “Markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you or I can remain solvent”

monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 15:27 collapse

Oh I learned this the hard way

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 00:25 collapse

Not financial advice, but there’s been a few times I wanted to short something (I didn’t in the end) but one thing to watch out for after an IPO is the date insiders are allowed to start selling stock. It’s often 6 months or so after the IPO and can cause share price to drop.

So if a company jumps in value post IPO, there might be an opportunity to short it at some point, with the options expiring a period of time after the insider sell off date.

I imagine I’m going to do some paper trades on reddit on this and see what happens. I’m rooting for them to do poorly. Fuck u/Spez

Edit: And to clarify, I mean buy puts on something. I’d never short something directly.

erranto@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:20 next collapse

Contrary to many in here, I don’t think this will cause another exodus from reddit. those who might be concerned by this have already left or reduced their time on the platform

Goodie@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:59 collapse

If Facebook hasn’t had a mas exodus, neither will Reddit.

Facebooks death is slow and ongoing, and I’m pretty sure Reddit’s will be too.

erranto@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 11:03 next collapse

I don’t know where you are getting your numbers. maybe it’s your selection bias, but facebook’s userbase keeps groing, and even if its getting less teenager engagement, those teenagers are flocking to Meta’s other platform Instagram.

YeeterPan@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 11:32 collapse

Or ~threads~ 🙄

9up999@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 11:05 collapse

If you move from facebook to instagram or threads why move at all?

Jestzer@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 13:27 collapse

Because many more people are concerned with where their friends are and what’s cool.

9up999@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 17:40 collapse

Yeah I understand that but I mean it’s same hands so why try at all.

Jestzer@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 21:07 collapse

Because they don’t care who owns what platform. They care that they’re different and only some of their friends are on one of them and not the other.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 10:26 next collapse

Founded in 2005 by web developer Steve Huffman and entrepreneur Alexis Ohanian, Reddit became best known for its niche discussion groups and its users voting “up” or “down” on the content posted by other members.

Disgraceful, disgusting, lying scum. Say his name: Aaron Swartz

Aatube@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 13:02 collapse

Aaron Swartz actually didn’t found Reddit. He built a similar company that wasn’t gaining traction, and as both of them were under y-comb and Reddit secretly seeded fake accounts, Swartz and y-comb decided to merge into Reddit. Swartz was sort of their first and hardworking employee instead of a co-founder.

IndyRap@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 14:23 collapse

Reddit doesn’t exist without him period full stop. His didn’t get traction and theirs didn’t work.

Not the same thing.

Aatube@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 16:09 collapse

Agreed.

FrostKing@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 15:47 next collapse

Can someone tell me what IPO is, and act like I’m not an idiot XD

tmijail@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 16:07 next collapse

They’re going to start selling shares of the company on public markets

Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com on 19 Jan 2024 16:32 collapse

An IPO is an initial public offering. It is when shares of the company are being sold for the first time. This allows a company to (potentially) raise an enormous amount of money to expand their business.

When people buy and sell stocks or you see stock prices being reported on this is more or less a secondary market, people or investment firms trading stocks amongst themselves. The company doesn’t get any money when a stock trades hands in this fashion.

An IPO is different. The company is selling little pieces of ownership and the money from those sales go into their coffers. To raise the most funds the company wants to convince potential buyers that the company is valuable and is now or will soon be profitable (and will pay a dividend out for each share owned). This assessment of value (called valuation) is often complex and can take a long, long time.

Reddit’s recent effective shutdown of third party apps to force mobile users onto the Reddit mobile app was almost certainly an effort to get a better valuation. It shows potential buyers of shares that the content on Reddit can only be accessed on mobile devices via an app that the company would get the ad revenue from.

All the kerfuffle and shakeups at Reddit have been leading up to the big day, the IPO. The big news scoop is that that date has been set for March.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 19 Jan 2024 21:06 next collapse

It also is used as a cash cow by many startups where the IPO will get them nice bonuses, large amounts of valuable stock that they can then sell.

This is honestly what I expect from asshole apex as well

whatwhatwutyut@midwest.social on 19 Jan 2024 23:55 next collapse

This is super informative without being condescending, wonderful job

I hope you have a great day!

Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com on 20 Jan 2024 01:01 collapse

Thank you and I hope you have the same.

FrostKing@lemmy.world on 21 Jan 2024 16:10 collapse

Thanks a lot, this is a great explanation! You should be a teacher

BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com on 19 Jan 2024 21:05 next collapse

I hope a big fail LMAO…

lunaticneko@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 01:03 collapse

They’re still trying to do that?!