Teenagers turning to AI companions are redefining love as easy, unconditional and always there. (theconversation.com)
from Cat@ponder.cat to technology@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 16:43
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schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business on 12 Feb 16:50 next collapse

As someone who is shit with dealing with relationships, I get the appeal, I really do.

Problem is we don’t have a Lucy Liubot yet, so we are yet again let down by our poor quality technology.

houstoneulers@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 17:18 next collapse
rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 19:08 next collapse

I’m on the contrary attracted to things real and natural with all their hardship.

So-o I’m too much hardship for those I’m trying to approach romantically. Also lack willpower. And normies’ ideas of detectable bravery, kindness, persistence, sense of humor, creativity and other good qualities are really far from my personality. Those who know me long say good things (not sure how sincere). But relationships are about trial and error, and trial is usually not long enough to reach the stage where I’m not deemed an error. EDIT: And sometimes they do, but in those cases I am.

And frankly I’m confused and panic when I encounter that real and natural, like a really good sewing machine from 70s which is probably still operational (I’ve noticed one lever lacking, but it’s used rarely and can be replaced with a screwdriver), but cleaning it from cockroach shit looks like a gigantic undertaking. I’d strongly prefer to just turn it on. But then I’d still have to clean it even if nothing tears, burns or gets jammed, and before that I’ll enjoy the smell of heated cockroach shit.

OK, that’s offtopic, just a real human, from common sense, should be a much more complicated matter than cockroach shit in a mechanism which is mostly fine (with good manuals, and a high-end machine produced in the olden days before planned obsolescence and when functionality mirrored ability).

reiterationstation@lemm.ee on 12 Feb 22:18 collapse

So if you get a bot companion… it’s perfect and it loves you unconditionally as much as a robot can but eventually you get bored and decide to upgrade… proving you were the shallow one all along.

Or maybe it proves no one actually believes that’s love which means they will never be truly fulfilled with a artificial replacement.

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de on 12 Feb 17:27 next collapse

Teenagers aren’t stupid. They’re playing around and masturbating. They know it’s not real and they still want to touch each other.

Call me when sexbots are here.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 12 Feb 18:47 next collapse

Just because you know it’s not real doesn’t mean you can’t become attached to it.

Allonzee@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 04:38 collapse

That’s literally like half of marriages.

reiterationstation@lemm.ee on 12 Feb 22:14 next collapse

Teenagers aren’t stupid.

You sure? Even the president is stupid.

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 13 Feb 01:18 collapse

The president isn’t a teenager, and as a sociopath wouldn’t have been representative of teenagers even when he was one.

villainy@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 14:38 collapse

I would expect the teenage years to be where most people’s sociopathy peaks before trailing off as they continue to mature emotionally.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 13:39 next collapse

Please also call me when the sexbots are here. I’d like to preorder if possible.

sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 13 Feb 14:29 collapse

It will be fine for most kids who try it and really harmful for a minority of them

Ulrich@feddit.org on 12 Feb 18:51 next collapse

Young people are reporting epidemic levels of loneliness, and some are turning to technology to fill the void.

Bruh, technology is causing the void. People are increasingly using technology to replace human interaction, rather than to cultivate it.

Telorand@reddthat.com on 12 Feb 20:10 next collapse

Social media was a mistake.

And yes, I’m aware of the irony as I use social media to say so. I do not apologize.

jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works on 13 Feb 04:24 next collapse

Turns out unfettered greed turns everything it touches to shit.

Telorand@reddthat.com on 13 Feb 06:19 collapse

Also, humans in general are dumb. But moreso your thing.

dbkblk@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 06:57 next collapse

I’m not so sure. Facebook was a great tool to create local communities at first. Then it became greedy and changed the algorithm for ads and being attention driven. If you remove facebook (which I don’t use since months), it’s harder to find what’s new around you, and get out to cool events. Especially on the countryside.

Telorand@reddthat.com on 13 Feb 13:05 collapse

That’s precisely why it was a mistake. People did those things before Facebook, but now? So many people have no clue how to exist without it, and all the while, it’s weaponized against people’s ignorance by bad actors who are greedy for power and money.

Hell, we’ve had to create decentralized tools just to get some of our agency back. And yet, even knowing that their data is fodder for those same bad actors, people still flock to those previous systems like Facebook, TikTok, Xitter, and Instagram.

Social media isn’t a mistake because social media is inherently bad. It’s a mistake, because humans in general are too stupid to protect themselves.

dbkblk@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 15:00 collapse

No, people didn’t do such things before, I disagree. People got out, of course, but it had greatly increased market view for events, because random people around could get the information. Before that, it was just displays on the walls, local newspapers, etc, but the potential viewers are way less.

MITM0@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 09:12 next collapse

You can choose to leave

Telorand@reddthat.com on 13 Feb 12:33 collapse

Very astute observation. Bravo.

TORFdot0@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 14:35 next collapse

If it weren’t for social media, humanity would find another technology to lie and manipulate people for money and power.

Money and Power are what corrupts, not technology

RxBrad@infosec.pub on 13 Feb 19:32 collapse

It was all about “fun” in the days of MySpace and Digg and early-Reddit. That damn cat wanted a damn cheeseburger and we all laughed about it.

Then it became all about politics. And people would go to any lengths to ensure that “their” politics “won” on social media. We went from people having fleets of alt accounts, to fleets of bots, to just having AI spread and upvote propaganda.

So, it’s all just gross now. I want my goddamn Geocities & Yahoo! Towers back.

archomrade@midwest.social on 13 Feb 16:39 collapse

I honestly think social media and internet subculture would be fine if it weren’t soured by moneyed interests

If work wasn’t so alienating and all-encompassing and we weren’t so stressed and insecure in our material conditions, then we wouldnt run to social media as an escape. If wasn’t also so rife with consumerist culture and advertisements it wouldnt be so corrosive. Maybe then we could use it to create communities that mirror and bridge into irl spaces and create meaningful relationships.

Instead, the entire network has been constructed around a capitalist organization and it only serves to make us more miserable.

frezik@midwest.social on 12 Feb 20:56 next collapse

I believe there was a documentary about this.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_2000

kingblaaak@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 22:09 next collapse

Everybody thinking they can do better, so there’s a sense of entitlement from both sexes.

Also one bad trait is overshadowing all the good traits, hence the stand off, and the constant complaints on social media.

reiterationstation@lemm.ee on 12 Feb 22:12 next collapse

I don’t know who needs to hear this but a computer can’t love you. Get a cat or dog.

Krompus@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 06:35 collapse

I don’t know who needs to hear this but a cat can’t love you.

(I have a cat overlord)

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 13 Feb 01:16 next collapse

If that AI companion isn’t on your own hardware, it will likely require a subscription eventually. And running an AI agent yourself isn’t cheap.

Sabata11792@ani.social on 13 Feb 20:18 collapse

Not your hardware, not your girlfriend.

Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 20:49 collapse

Oh that’s dark

Sabata11792@ani.social on 13 Feb 20:52 collapse

Would you trust an Ai that’s only dating you for the subscription?

Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 20:55 next collapse

I wouldn’t trust a self hosted AI that I trained myself.

Konstant@lemmy.world on 14 Feb 12:52 collapse

Usually that’s how therapists work and people trust then

Sabata11792@ani.social on 14 Feb 13:32 collapse

My therapist ran on a 1080 ti… Much cheaper and did not involve insurance.

Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 13 Feb 07:10 next collapse

Bad Religion - I Love My Computer

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 08:22 next collapse

I can only imagine how insidious this is going to turn in the future. People will undoubtedly use this technology to violate humans in ways we have never even thought of.

Allowing a corporation to control the only thing that person feels love for is a recipe for disaster.

People need connections with other people. This is the antitheses to this need.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 13:10 next collapse

broke into Windsor Castle with a crossbow, saying that he was going to kill the queen

Uhm, she’s dead already.

Croquette@sh.itjust.works on 13 Feb 13:37 collapse

That’s the best no context quote of the year so far.

postmanbrown@lemm.ee on 13 Feb 17:45 next collapse

I can’t help but wonder how many of the Reddit users that articles like this use for quotes, data, etc. are actually AI profiles themselves.

Like the internet’s already dead and it’s just the AI leading the AI and that’s why everything feels weird

Evotech@lemmy.world on 14 Feb 13:21 next collapse

It’s a fad, and once people realize how shallow it is they will drop it like an old toy.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 15 Feb 20:04 collapse

  • Genona Smith, 1993, on video games.
Evotech@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 23:46 collapse

More like pog

magnus@lemmy.ahall.se on 14 Feb 18:48 collapse

Ah, so AI will kill off humanity. Not with a terminator but as a sex chat bot, leaving people unable to interact normally with other humans. No more human children!