Would anything get you to use Google Chat with friends?
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from AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 15:51
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from AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 15:51
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No.
Iād rather create two RSS feeds over which we would communicate
Iād rather use a usenet board
Back in 2010 my friend group and I tried. Google kept changing their chat programs and weād keep having to migrate or change what we did. Eventually we went to discord and it was at least stable.
We tried, Google. We tried. I wonāt go back.
Why would I use a chat app tailored to businesses to chat with my friends ?
Why not using Slack while weāre at it ?
Google chat is just Google hangouts and was one of the first messengers out there I believe. My family still uses it to have chats between Android and iPhone users.
Not even remotely. But at the time it seemed the better option. Migrating everyone from the walled gardens of AOL instant messenger and MSN messenger. To something a bit more open and at the time we wrongly thought more stable. The original G+ chat was their own xmpp server. And for a while was fully interoperable with other xmpp servers. But easier to convince people to go to "Googleā than some other weird domain name. Then Google closed it off. Which sucked, but as long as they would be less restrictive about what platform and how you interfaced with it. Everything would still be okay. Right, right? Then they shut down Google Plus. And the roller coaster started. It got rolled out his chat. Then became Hangouts for the first time. At some point it became allo. And eventually went back to Hangouts again before they killed it off yet again.
The only way anyone could or should use it again. Is if they implement just a straight up XMPP server tied in to Gmail. And leave it interoperable with all other XMPP servers. As part of Gmail, it might actually stand some permanence. So long as we all donāt remember inbox.
Was AOL and MSN available on phones? I guess it was the first mainstream phone messaging app that I recall. They havenāt killed it off and allo was a seperate app. Hangouts is just called chats now. It is also available in Gmail. Iāve used it nonstop since it came out and it hasnāt changed all that much.
Iād trust Plankton with the krabby patty secret formula more than Iād trust Google with another chat app
Iād trust 18th-20th century French populous that they have an appropriate form of government more than Iād trust Google it has a chat app itāll commit to.
If somebody broke into my house, stuck a gun to my head and told me to use it or they would blast me, I would probably use it then.
The gun would be a faster way to go
Maybe if they reintroduced hangouts and let me:
Iād be tempted to use them again. It amazes me that they made an app that encompassed basically every modern form of individual communication laid out in a clear understandable manner and they just thought it would be better if every feature they offered were itās own app. Now I have to remember which medium I used to talk with somebody and use an app with fewer features.
I miss hangouts.
add faxing
And telegrams.
Hangouts was peak Google messaging. It was iMessage before iMessage. I donāt know if it necessarily came first, but all my friends who have iPhones and use iMessage now used to use Hangouts on Android. I think Google has a huge opportunity to be the popular brand and lost it.
Man those were the days. I still use Voice and have years of messages in there, I dread the day they cancel it and I need to find something else.
If google had just built on top of Hangouts starting in like 2013, theyād have a great product. It was built into gmail. Thatās a huge install base. It was just there and they justā¦ didnāt do it. Too many middle managers and asshole resume padding engineers, not enough adult supervision.
Yes, my friends using it
I use it with my wife and friends more than whatāsapp or messenger
If it becomes an open-source, decentralized service with bridges and more users than Matrix, Iād consider it.
They have released and killed about a dozen chat services. What makes this one different?
The name, I guess
There actually was a Google Chat before. It used XMPP. Theyāre even recycling names, cause theyāre starting to run out of names from all the past services they killed.
No, because Google will just go and randomly cancel.
All my family and friends used to use Hangouts and it was perfect. Iād been with it since Google Talk but it was Hangouts SMS and functional video chat integration that won everyone over. Then SMS was removed, and later there was talk of it changing to Chatsā¦ and the stench of Allo and Duo was still in the air so we abandoned ship rather than bothering.
Now weāre on a mix of WhatsApp and Messenger depending on the social group. Not really my preference but once bitten, twice shy so Google products get a hard pass.
Also, Chats is ugly. A horizontal bar in a sea of whitespace is a terrible separator for a conversation. And chat heads donāt work in group messages like they did in Hangouts so it sucks for knowing if people in a group chat are up to speed.
That stretch of time when hangouts did SMS was beautiful.
What was that thing called in 2009? Google wave I think? It was amazing. Got us through grad school. So of course they killed it.
If I needed a message system that I knew would make messages unavailable after a few years because it was shut down by a company that never supports side projects this would be a valuable service.
This, never commit to any Google products beside search, maps, mail and Android
I learned that lesson with Google+. I loved it back in the day, then suddenly they just canned it.
Itās still available in their business accounts. :P
LMAO TIL, I think it is a wasteland isnāt it?
yeah, pretty much.
But what about our Lord and Savior, RCS?
Thatās ironic, because Google Chat to this day has migrated chats over from Hangouts and effectively served messaging for over a decade. But even Hangouts migrated chats over from Google Talk, which I personally used at least as far back as 2010.
To put that into perspective, Appleās iMessage has only been around since 2011.
You have no idea how many messages I had in Wave. Do you realize how many Google messaging services have come and gone with zero portability?
theverge.com/ā¦/google-chat-allo-hangouts-talk-mesā¦
I would rather use netcat command to send massages than Google Product.
I currently use it with friends, and have been using it since it was called Google Talk.
I use it with a group of friends and we love it.
There is nothing that would get me to use that as there are dozens of better and more private solutions
Not being snarky, if they created an open source federated protocol with a foundation to hold the patents to guarantee their freedom. I would definitely move on to a Google designed, Google engineered, Google ran, end-to-end encrypted third-party verified federated platform. They can actually be good engineers when they want to be.
Any platform where Google is in sole control, and where they could get bored and turn the service off, I will never use.
Somebody will get promoted for making a new platform, somebody will get promoted for having change at global scale, and then nobody will touch it ever again to innovate or fix anything ever. Because it wonāt get them there next level promotion, iterating is not global scale change. As an organization theyāll abandon it, when the user numbers get low enough theyāll kill it. 2 to 5 years. So the platform absolutely must be decentralized and federated