You probably don't remember these but I have a question
from Mickey7@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 12:01
https://lemmy.world/post/30700992

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/30700991

I still have an old ipod. So old it has no wireless ability. I want to use it in my car which doesn’t have a cassette or cd player. It plugs into the car’s usb port but the car radio “doesn’t see it”. Any tips on how to get it to work?

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Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 03 Jun 12:04 next collapse

We used FM transmitters for those guys back in the day. Plug it in the headphone port and tune the stations.

Mickey7@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 12:09 next collapse

Sorry I don’t understand your response. This old ipod is loaded with music down loaded from itunes. If I plug head phones into it (it has not bluetooth) it works fine. If I plug it into my stereo receiver in the house it works great. But if I plug it into the usb port in my car - it is not recognized. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

bjorney@lemmy.ca on 03 Jun 12:14 next collapse

There are low powered FM transmitters you can get for your car

FM transmitter plugs into cigarette lighter for power

iPod connects to FM transmitter via AUX cord

You tune your cars radio to whatever frequency the transmitter is set to, and it plays whatever your iPod is playing

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 03 Jun 13:25 collapse

Had this for old portable CD players (the kind that would skip when the car hit a bump). They don't work all that well. Even if you find a frequency not in use, it gets interrupted from time to time as you're driving around.

meco03211@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 13:33 collapse

But the alternative is nothing.

MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 19:09 collapse

I used one all the time in my last work van. Drove it over a good chunk of the US and interference was rarely a problem. You just need to pick a couple unpopular frequencies right next to eat other and set those as two of your radio station defaults. It’s slightly annoying but it rarely even happens.

Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 03 Jun 12:15 next collapse

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crank0271@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 12:18 next collapse

Clean(er - still Amazon) link: www.amazon.com/dp/B004NEUK86

sevon@lemmy.kde.social on 03 Jun 12:47 collapse

Hey, I’ve had a car as new as 2017 support an ipod through usb!

XeroxCool@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 13:06 next collapse

And as old as 2010 for me

astrsk@fedia.io on 03 Jun 16:26 collapse

2024 model here, supports ipods, wired and wireless CarPlay/ android auto, 3.5mm aux, Bluetooth. Only thing it doesn’t have is physical media (cd, dvd, cassette). If you plug in an iPhone that supports CarPlay, but turn off / disallow CarPlay from the phone settings, it just shows up as “iPod” too, so any downloaded music works fine.

superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 12:15 next collapse

There are little devices that take the “headphone” cable and transmit a tiny FM radio station just for your car.

Strider@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 15:05 next collapse

I think I can clear up your confusion.

By headphone jack there’s a transmission of simple analog audio.

By USB however there are endless possibilities.

Ipods (and other apple devices) usually spoke a different protocol than simply providing file access as your car is likely expecting. On a pc you needed to install the application for that, too.

That’s likely the reason for not working.

In this case it’s easier to just stick in a mass storage usb stick with music files on it.

toofpic@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 23:27 collapse

Yeah, apple always hated the “(any device) is a thing with folders and files inside” paradigm - it was always “I got this app that plays music, I don’t know how”. So it would be crazy if they would just make any device show the contents of the drive.

LesserAbe@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 16:46 collapse

Other people replied, but to rephrase: the USB will not work with a car, and there will never be an adapter that will allow it to.

Instead you need a way to send the audio from the ipod headphone jack into your car stereo. Something like this.

wsheldon@lemm.ee on 03 Jun 12:55 next collapse

They aren’t great especially if you live in a big city, but out of all the options this would get you the truest classic iPod experience.

Lenny@lemmy.zip on 03 Jun 16:47 next collapse

It was always fun to be driving down the highway and suddenly picking up somebody’s stream, then annoying when you realize you’re in traffic with them and now they’ve hijacked the station you were listening to

IllNess@infosec.pub on 03 Jun 17:52 collapse

Lol. Some of these devices gives you have a choice of different frequencies. Mine had 4.

MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 19:06 collapse

Even cheap ones now allow you to go to any FM frequency.

olympicyes@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 23:52 collapse

The one I had connected to the antenna port on the back of the head unit. Still FM just no longer wireless. I think I had the choice of 5 or 6 stations to broadcast to.

dhork@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 12:09 next collapse

It is likely the car USB port is looking through directories for MP3 files, and thats not now those iPods present themselves when hooked up via USB. You might be able to find an audio-to-bluetooth adapter, but it is likely you will not be able to control the device through the car’s interface, so you would have to press play manually.

(Side note: older cars with USB might have a very low-level relationship with the USB sticks, where they read files in the order they were written to the device, without regard to what folders you put them in. There are utilities that can reorder the files’ physical position on the stick so that albums play in order)

SpikesOtherDog@ani.social on 03 Jun 12:20 next collapse

I use a Bluetooth to aux for my phone, which is only slightly annoying at times, but I blame the apps. I can play, play, pause, skip forward with my Bluetooth receiver, and OP will miss out on that, except they can PROBABLY use the dial blindly for just that.

who@feddit.org on 03 Jun 16:35 collapse

There are also bluetooth adapters that plug directly into those older iPods’ accessory port (the slot on the bottom) instead of the headphone jack.

The main benefit of the one I used was being compact, with no wires. The main drawback was having to remove the adapter to charge the iPod. I guess a model with a USB charging cable might exist.

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megane_kun@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 12:30 next collapse

I’ve had one of those (battery died, unfortunately) and if you’d look at its files, you’d notice that they are organized in a different structure than what an MP3 player might expect.

<img alt="" src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0QlZexLUkxE/maxresdefault.jpg">

iPod_Control\Music’s sudirectories might contain some songs, but the filenames are hashes (corresponding to the entry in the iPod db). The metadata and the contents are perfectly fine, and you can play the file yourself via a different player (you can probably test it in your computer).

I suggest you just connect the iPod through the 3.5mm output audio jack or find a 3.5mm audio output to Bluetooth transmitter adapter.


EDIT:

WTF. I triple posted. My bad. I deleted the two others, also corrected some minor typos and mistakes.

[deleted] on 03 Jun 12:33 next collapse

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 13:27 next collapse

Can you just get an aux cable and plug that in?

Windswept@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 13:46 next collapse

Seperate from the FM transmitters that other people have mentioned, you can install an FM modulator into your car. This is a box that goes behind your stereo, feeds power off the stereo power supply, and connects directly to the antenna wire to supply the frequency modulated sound signal directly to the antenna without traveling through the air. Similar to an FM transmitter, it has a headphone wire that plugs into the headphone outlet of your ipod for the audio signal. It can bypass the interference problem that FM transmitters run into, but the one I installed back in the day actually picked up engine revving noise from my alternator, so maybe it needed better wire shielding. Obviously this requires taking out your stereo and doing some wiring work so you need some tinkering skills or have it installed by a pro.

The reason the USB plug on your ipod doesn’t work is that earlier audio devices like the original ipod didn’t have a way to transmit audio digitally over USB, it was only used for charging and file transfer.

DJDarren@sopuli.xyz on 03 Jun 13:48 next collapse

Further to the other answers; I have one of these for using my iPod in the car. It has the added bonus of taking line-level volume, so you set the volume from the head unit, not the iPod. And it can charge while you’re using it.

I think it’ll charge from the head unit’s USB socket without trying to connect, because the USB plug is just for charging.

Aarrodri@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 14:01 next collapse

There are 3.5mm (headphones) to Bluetooth adapters. If you car are Bluetooth u can use this… fairly inexpensive. And if you have FM radio in your car there is 3.5mm to FM adapters…basically you have a mini radio station with short range but enough for your car to pick it up

Jarix@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 01:19 collapse

i use one of these as my car doesn’t have Bluetooth. Works fn great. Has usb port and aux port on it. Plugs into 12v on car

My last one was a little more powerful, would transmit clearly to 3 or 4 cars around me, but i accidently snapped it

Used to set it to the local country station so that i never had to listen to country music when stopped at a light.

But i digress, bought mine at best buy for about 50 cdn

Nanook@lemm.ee on 03 Jun 15:15 next collapse

Aux to aux in your car stereo not available?

theneverfox@pawb.social on 03 Jun 16:32 next collapse

An iPod nano can’t play over USB, you need to use the aux port

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 17:53 collapse

This is unfortunately the only real answer. “Install an aux port in your car, or get a different player that will play via USB” isn’t a good answer to hear, but it’s the correct one. Maybe use one of those FM transmitters instead. Reception will entirely depend on where you are, (and the FCC severely limits how powerful a non-licensed radio broadcast can be,) but at least it would get music to your car. Or if your car has Bluetooth, you can get one that takes the audio in via aux and outputs to Bluetooth.

But if you don’t have an aux port, I’m guessing you don’t have Bluetooth either.

IllNess@infosec.pub on 03 Jun 17:55 next collapse

We should start with, what car do you have? Then we can figure out if it has an AUX port.

Also if this Nano has an original battery, you might want to replace it before it becomes bloated.

NarrativeBear@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 18:36 next collapse

There are AUX cables that have a transmit and recive switch. You can use this to transmit the output of your iPod through AUX to a built in bluetooth receiver in your car or other device.

www.amazon.co.uk/…/B0D12MFCBG

Just make sure what you choose has the transmitter function as most cheaper ones only have the receiver function (for use in a car stereo for example).

thirteene@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 19:35 next collapse

I offered 3 potential solutions that work across ever model (unlisted) and you guys are downvoting?

  • USB - apple 30 pin: note that the pin number might change depending on release year. Someone smarter than me will mention why firmware might not work out.
  • USB to aux: this will give you a headphone jack and is the most reliable
  • FM transmitter: if you lack a headphone jack you can also get an FM transmitter. It makes your device a mini radio station. These are pretty unreliable or staticy, but sometimes you need an option. I would recommend a new player first.
nixcamic@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 19:50 collapse

Usb to aux for an iPod lol.

nixcamic@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 19:57 next collapse

Everyone in these comments are idiots? Or bots? Usb to aux outputs, Bluetooth to aux outputs guys it’s a freaking iPod the one thing it has is aux output. The problem is getting it into the radio.

Op, does your radio have aux in? That’s the easiest but it’s so simple I think you would have done it already.

If you don’t sometimes you can buy an adapter that plugs into the back of your radio, heck eBay might net you an actual iPod 30 pin cable specific to your radio.

If your radio has Bluetooth, you can get an aux Bluetooth transmitter not reciver like people linked here, to transmit from the headphone jack to your radio.

Last resort is a fm transmitter with either aux or a 30 pin.

Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 22:39 next collapse

Yea I think you can find one at “5 below” or “best buy”

toofpic@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 23:21 collapse

I was selling smartphones and smartphone accessories when they were just emerging, ending PDA era, and we had FM transmitters - it is powered from car, you plug in your device through aux, and the transmitter sends out the sound in FM, so you can catch it on your effin radio (the frequency were either fixed or selectable). This was the future!

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 03 Jun 22:44 next collapse

The USB port in your car radio might only support a specific file format for the drive (like EXT, FAT32, NTSF) that the iPod doesn’t use (IIRC, the iPod used Fat32 or Fat16?)

Or it doesn’t see directories and would work with a plain USB stick loaded with .MP3s loosely added to it. You could get a iPod to do this, but it wouldn’t work as an iPod anymore; it would be an external hard drive.

Edit: NVM I just realized it’s a nano. You can’t use the USB to play anything from a nano.

Does the radio have a 3.5mm AUX jack? If so, just use that.

Mickey7@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 00:23 next collapse

No AUX to plug into - only USB

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 04 Jun 01:25 next collapse

Aux to FM signal adapter, powered by the USB port.

Know that this may not be the safest solution, as you won’t have accessible track controls directly from the head unit, so you’ll have to be distracted if you want to pause or change tracks.

You are better off with a flash drive.

Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jun 09:22 collapse

Then I think you’ll have much better luck figuring out a way to get a jack-to-USB adapter to work with your car’s radio

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jun 07:59 collapse

NTFS*

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub on 04 Jun 01:42 next collapse

Male to male aux, if your car has aux input. Maybe aux to fm (like this), so you can connect ipod to the transmitter, then set the car’s radio to the same frequency.

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 04 Jun 06:02 next collapse

“probably won’t remember”?

Man. Fuck this kid. I’m not that old…

NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk on 04 Jun 18:09 collapse

Just started using my 2006 SanDisk equivelant of this, I feel attacked lol

[deleted] on 04 Jun 09:13 next collapse

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Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jun 09:20 next collapse

I don’t think it will work in USB. Afaik on PC it can only work with iTunes, so good luck installing that in your car. If it’s “that” old though, it should have the one interface that is so perfect it has barely changed in one century.

(The audio jack…)

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 04 Jun 09:55 next collapse

The more usual thing are aux to USB adapters but they can only do USB to aux, nit the reverse. What you need is aux to USB converter, they can do both ways.

This article is good, autotranslate if not german.

Aetherians@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 09:58 next collapse

You can use 3.5mm jack to bluetooth adapter.

Aetherians@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 10:00 next collapse

Or even 3.5mm to FM adapter like this avinusa.com/fm-transmitter-mini-aux-adapter-with-…

Nighed@feddit.uk on 04 Jun 13:16 collapse

That’s really annoying for everyone else though.

Aetherians@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 16:01 next collapse

Yeah If you use the same frequency as an existing station.

Nighed@feddit.uk on 04 Jun 16:25 collapse

They pack them in as tight as they can, so doing that fucks up two stations instead…

underwire212@lemm.ee on 04 Jun 18:54 collapse

Low power. Only picks up your cars receiver, and potentially neighboring vehicles temporarily if they are receiving at the same frequency.

Nighed@feddit.uk on 04 Jun 13:17 collapse

These work well. I have to power mine through the cigarette lighter, but newer cars should have USB power as standard.

CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe on 04 Jun 12:33 next collapse

Okay, yes, this is older technology & cars don’t have infinite, universal backwards compatibility. Cars have Bluetooth & they think that just fixes everything…well…not quite.

Maybe there are other fixes & other workarounds, but you need to employ old(er) technology solutions to fix this old(er) technology problem. You need a (QUALITY) FM transmitter that will plug into your aux, blast the signal as an FM radio station, and you tune your radio to that station & listen. Notice I said QUALITY…most of them are kinda crap & you have to deal with static. I have no specific brand, model suggestions. Good luck.

A better but more expensive solution: upgrade your car’s head unit. Stock head units are shit, anyway. 🙂 Get yourself a nice head unit with 3.5mm aux connection & aux in that iPod, if your budget allows. THEN, you’ll have the best sound quality and also Bluetooth connection, etc.

I wish you well, music makes the driving experience, I hope you get EVERYTHING you need. 🙏

Rubanski@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 08:43 collapse

It’s strange that most radio head units you can buy look like they were designed by high school students in 2010 with an infinite RGB and plastichrome budget.

Therobohour@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 13:24 next collapse

www.amazon.co.uk/…/B084FYQD9S

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 13:38 next collapse

I still have one. No these ones specifically don’t have wireless capabilities. Later ones do, though.

notthebees@reddthat.com on 04 Jun 15:46 next collapse

How old is your car? Ipod support is odd like post 2015.

LordWiggle@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 13:10 next collapse

Are you sure your car doesn’t have an aux in? Most cast do. Otherwise, maybe a USB to aux converter might work but I doubt it. So I’d go with a Bluetooth or FM transmitter like others adviced. If your car has Bluetooth, I’d go for that one as FM can have interference. Or just play music from your phone. No iTunes hassle and more storage.

Mickey7@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 14:45 collapse

Amazingly my 2024 german made car does not have an AUX

LordWiggle@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 14:59 collapse

Why is it so hard for car makers to equip every car with basic needs like enough cup holders, USB and enough power plugs, Bluetooth, AND A FREAKING AUX PLUG *major facepalm

Edit: my BMW had one under the arm rest by the way. It’s also possible to have one in the glove box compartment.

Mickey7@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 12:26 collapse

I almost dissembled the center console looking for one. Also no luck in the glove box

LordWiggle@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 13:28 collapse

Have you tried selling it and buying an older model with a tape deck, so you can insert a fake tape with a cord and aux?

Mickey7@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 15:32 collapse

LOL. No not really. Not getting rid of this just to use my old, old ipod <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2e0a1ea6-5cf7-4515-aa7f-c7a89892817c.png">

LordWiggle@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 20:53 collapse

Priorities man, priorities

Maverick604@lemmy.ca on 06 Jun 00:42 collapse

Back in the day, I had one of the fm transmitters wired into the antenna with a ground loop isolator from radio shack (!) and I tapped a power lead so it would also charge my iPod while in use (and automatically turn off the power when the car was off). Honestly, it was awesome. CD quality sound. If I remember correctly Belkin made the transmitter.