autotldr@lemmings.world
on 19 Jun 2024 03:35
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
A report by tech news site The Information suggests that Apple is shifting its augmented reality priorities.
Apple had originally intended to present this headset alongside the Vision Pro, similar to the models available in each iPhone release.
The more affordable model would likely have fewer cameras, smaller speakers, and weigh less, though Apple has struggled to bring down the cost of the unit’s displays.
The Information cites current and former Meta employees in describing how the company had killed plans for its own higher-end headset in January 2023, but it then began work on a new premium model five months after Apple’s Vision Pro debut.
The Vision Pro will launch in China, Japan, Australia, and many European countries later this month.
The Information’s sources suggest that Apple has produced roughly 500,000 Vision Pro headsets and will not make significantly more, despite the entry of these new markets.
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BassaForte@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 2024 06:43
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Apple? Yeah right lmao.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.run
on 19 Jun 2024 07:23
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Cheaper for them to make.
Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 2024 07:34
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It goes from wildly expensive to slightly less wildly expensive.
Even if Apple cuts the price in half, it'll still be a hard pill to swallow.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 2024 09:00
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Playing out the same way as the HomePod. Over engineered and expensive, doesn’t sell as well as they thought it would, R&D halts and reboots the product line with something much cheaper and easier to make.
Instead of Apple Vision Pro 2, expect an ‘Air’ model.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jun 2024 16:17
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I have to say though, that I have the Homepod mini, and I absolutely can’t fucking stand it.
ripcord@lemmy.world
on 20 Jun 2024 02:29
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What is wrong with it?
fishpen0@lemmy.world
on 20 Jun 2024 13:44
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For me it’s that arbitrarily not pairing them gives a higher end experience than pairing them. You can play music over multiple by just selecting them all when you air play. The only difference is the lack to stereo, which if you have them all over your house you wouldn’t want anyway.
Meanwhile if you do pair them, then it’s stereo only. So if they are placed around the room, then arbitrarily you can’t hear some notes or vocals out of both speakers. Plus if you use Siri, for some reason only the left speaker speaks. We have an open concept kitchen and had one speaker in the counter and one in the living room on the tv stand and it was just overwhelmingly stupid to have only the speaker in the kitchen speak back.
It’s also stupid I can’t buy a single big home pod and pair it with 2-4 minis to make a 7.1 surround. Or even just pair more than 2 minis.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jun 2024 15:11
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The fact that I can’t get Siri to speak at a higher volume. She’ll do it when I directly tell her, then immediately reduce her volume again. Sometimes Siri seems to be in a fog with no idea what’s going on. Sometimes it just turns on on its own or starts playing music. I wanted it to be my dedicated speaker for my Mac mini, but it reverts back to trying to play sound through my monitor every time I restart the computer. It’s also constantly prompting me to play stuff on it, even though I almost never want to do this as I have an Apple TV and good sound system in the same room that I use for that.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world
on 20 Jun 2024 13:26
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The mini is less prone to failure as the original, but I’ve heard a lot of people say that the sound is not that good.
Snapz@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 2024 14:46
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“Okay… You win. We heard you loud and clear on pricing, so the new AFFORDABLE (I mean as far as we know - what’s a gallon of milk cost these days anyways? Like $27?) Apple iPod VR is only $2000!! Wow. What a real savings. You’re welcome. Brave. Also, minor thing, it doesn’t come with internal or external screens. But of course, you can purchase an additional subscription to unlock the ability to consume the audio of select limited content at 50% audio volume compared to original model!”
Made your daddy proud… Proud.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jun 2024 16:19
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Yeah, I mean, what kind of monster doesn’t take the time to tune in and just listen to their vacation home’s maintenance staff when they drone on and on about meaningless bullshit like that? I’m a man of the people. I get it.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Jun 2024 16:11
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I honestly think k if they released an “Apple Vision S” with half the screen resolution, no battery (cable only, bring your own power), and no useless external screen, they could sell it like hot cakes for 2k$
barsquid@lemmy.world
on 20 Jun 2024 12:49
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It needs to be a standard connection and work with multiple host OSes before I would consider one, I’m not sure Apple is into that. Having the S version you describe would still be miles better than $3,500 for a non-upgradable smart monitor.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de
on 20 Jun 2024 13:52
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Sure, totally. As someone outside the apple walled garden I have no interest in buying it. But if it would interact with other systems, perhaps.
It works better the way you said it, if you really want to drive the point that this will be a dead duck for sure.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jun 2024 17:58
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To be fair, there was also the HD-DVD and BluRay war, so they could be talking about two separate wars. Probably not, but that’s how I choose to interpret it.
booly@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jun 2024 18:38
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For what it’s worth, that particular format war, the format backed by more porn studios (HD-DVD) actually lost to the one with less porn backing (Blu-ray). Personally I think that the PS3 tipped things over the edge.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jun 2024 18:49
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That’s too bad, porn companies generally have pretty good taste in tech. Also:
Disney and Fox were both impressed by the extra DRM (BD+ and region coding) that the Blu-ray Disc format provided on paper.
It’s based on Android. So you basically sideload it by going to the 3D porn’s website. So ya. 3d porn is great.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jun 2024 21:23
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I don’t watch porn, but you’d better believe I downloaded some 35GB 3D pron when I got my Index. If I DID watch porn, it would be the only kind I would ever watch. Incredible.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jun 2024 03:30
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Hella agree, I understand it’s complicated… but if I was into pron and it worked, what better a device?! I trust it’s more secure than Facebook shit, and it doesn’t need to be tethered to a computer strong enough to render a more-than-4k video that’s like 20-40GB?! While it’s still too expensive, the customer base would be WAY HIGHER.
I say this as a windows/linux user that uses an iPhone and iPad because their mobile devices are stellar. I’d never get a Vision Pro but they’re really missing out on a huge market of horny peeps
Yes it does, but it isn’t immersive. It’s basically the same as looking at a screen. 3D basically makes you the center of the porn. Put your face closer to the boobies. Look at the clock on the wall?
I remember seeing a 3D porn video where a mosquito let it on the male actor’s thigh and he proceeds to kill it. It was awesome.
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 2024 01:06
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I’d argue you can go much cheaper. Also their real competitor in terms of standalone hmds is Meta, not beyond. Beyond is a niche pc only product, not a standalone experience with social potential.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Jun 2024 01:08
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Isn’t that what the high end Vision is for? I would think a lower end model would target a different audience instead of just being cheaper and crappier.
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 2024 01:31
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Don’t see why that’d be the case, they might focus on it being a lighter model or something that also happens to have lower specs
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Jun 2024 03:20
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It’s certainly possible, but they wouldn’t want it to cannibalize sales for the premium product.
Oh shit! I saw a video of something totally unrelated the other day, but it involved using a drone and one of these headsets. I assumed it was just for the drone he had and more or less just a cheap head mounted display and not an actual VR headset. I want one… 🤤
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
A report by tech news site The Information suggests that Apple is shifting its augmented reality priorities.
Apple had originally intended to present this headset alongside the Vision Pro, similar to the models available in each iPhone release.
The more affordable model would likely have fewer cameras, smaller speakers, and weigh less, though Apple has struggled to bring down the cost of the unit’s displays.
The Information cites current and former Meta employees in describing how the company had killed plans for its own higher-end headset in January 2023, but it then began work on a new premium model five months after Apple’s Vision Pro debut.
The Vision Pro will launch in China, Japan, Australia, and many European countries later this month.
The Information’s sources suggest that Apple has produced roughly 500,000 Vision Pro headsets and will not make significantly more, despite the entry of these new markets.
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Apple? Yeah right lmao.
Cheaper for them to make.
It goes from wildly expensive to slightly less wildly expensive.
Yup. They’ve already anchored it. They could drop if $1K and people would think it’s a steal but it’s still wildly absurd.
It only says “cheaper” not “cheap”
Even if Apple cuts the price in half, it'll still be a hard pill to swallow.
Playing out the same way as the HomePod. Over engineered and expensive, doesn’t sell as well as they thought it would, R&D halts and reboots the product line with something much cheaper and easier to make.
Instead of Apple Vision Pro 2, expect an ‘Air’ model.
I have to say though, that I have the Homepod mini, and I absolutely can’t fucking stand it.
What is wrong with it?
For me it’s that arbitrarily not pairing them gives a higher end experience than pairing them. You can play music over multiple by just selecting them all when you air play. The only difference is the lack to stereo, which if you have them all over your house you wouldn’t want anyway.
Meanwhile if you do pair them, then it’s stereo only. So if they are placed around the room, then arbitrarily you can’t hear some notes or vocals out of both speakers. Plus if you use Siri, for some reason only the left speaker speaks. We have an open concept kitchen and had one speaker in the counter and one in the living room on the tv stand and it was just overwhelmingly stupid to have only the speaker in the kitchen speak back.
It’s also stupid I can’t buy a single big home pod and pair it with 2-4 minis to make a 7.1 surround. Or even just pair more than 2 minis.
The fact that I can’t get Siri to speak at a higher volume. She’ll do it when I directly tell her, then immediately reduce her volume again. Sometimes Siri seems to be in a fog with no idea what’s going on. Sometimes it just turns on on its own or starts playing music. I wanted it to be my dedicated speaker for my Mac mini, but it reverts back to trying to play sound through my monitor every time I restart the computer. It’s also constantly prompting me to play stuff on it, even though I almost never want to do this as I have an Apple TV and good sound system in the same room that I use for that.
The mini is less prone to failure as the original, but I’ve heard a lot of people say that the sound is not that good.
“Okay… You win. We heard you loud and clear on pricing, so the new AFFORDABLE (I mean as far as we know - what’s a gallon of milk cost these days anyways? Like $27?) Apple iPod VR is only $2000!! Wow. What a real savings. You’re welcome. Brave. Also, minor thing, it doesn’t come with internal or external screens. But of course, you can purchase an additional subscription to unlock the ability to consume the audio of select limited content at 50% audio volume compared to original model!”
Made your daddy proud… Proud.
Well, at least they got the price of milk right!
Yeah, I mean, what kind of monster doesn’t take the time to tune in and just listen to their vacation home’s maintenance staff when they drone on and on about meaningless bullshit like that? I’m a man of the people. I get it.
I honestly think k if they released an “Apple Vision S” with half the screen resolution, no battery (cable only, bring your own power), and no useless external screen, they could sell it like hot cakes for 2k$
It needs to be a standard connection and work with multiple host OSes before I would consider one, I’m not sure Apple is into that. Having the S version you describe would still be miles better than $3,500 for a non-upgradable smart monitor.
Sure, totally. As someone outside the apple walled garden I have no interest in buying it. But if it would interact with other systems, perhaps.
Without the ability to watch porn on it, it will not be mainstream. They are the Betamax of the DVD wars.
Allow me to interject kind sir/madam/other, but I do believe you mean to say the VHS wars
My bad!
And Beta was the superior format, but they didn’t market it well IIRC
It was slightly before my time. It was pretty much over by the time I was using it.
It works better the way you said it, if you really want to drive the point that this will be a dead duck for sure.
To be fair, there was also the HD-DVD and BluRay war, so they could be talking about two separate wars. Probably not, but that’s how I choose to interpret it.
For what it’s worth, that particular format war, the format backed by more porn studios (HD-DVD) actually lost to the one with less porn backing (Blu-ray). Personally I think that the PS3 tipped things over the edge.
That’s too bad, porn companies generally have pretty good taste in tech. Also:
So it came down to DRM and the PS3.
you can’t watch porn on the apple vision headsets?
Not 3D porn. Just regular like you’re looking at a monitor.
okay, yea porn apps are not going to be allowed on the appstore. Does Oculus even have any in their store?
For either headsets you can still go through Steam link though, or sideload 'em
It’s based on Android. So you basically sideload it by going to the 3D porn’s website. So ya. 3d porn is great.
I don’t watch porn, but you’d better believe I downloaded some 35GB 3D pron when I got my Index. If I DID watch porn, it would be the only kind I would ever watch. Incredible.
Apple is playing a losing game not allowing porn.
Hella agree, I understand it’s complicated… but if I was into pron and it worked, what better a device?! I trust it’s more secure than Facebook shit, and it doesn’t need to be tethered to a computer strong enough to render a more-than-4k video that’s like 20-40GB?! While it’s still too expensive, the customer base would be WAY HIGHER.
I say this as a windows/linux user that uses an iPhone and iPad because their mobile devices are stellar. I’d never get a Vision Pro but they’re really missing out on a huge market of horny peeps
I agree with you on almost everything. I don’t trust Apple or any big corp that sole(or soul) purpose is profits.
I trust the USPS more than Apple.
It’s ok to watch porn.
Yup, Apple shouldn’t be deciding what I can and cannot watch on my screens.
I’m confused… Does the Vision Pro not have a web browser?
Yes it does, but it isn’t immersive. It’s basically the same as looking at a screen. 3D basically makes you the center of the porn. Put your face closer to the boobies. Look at the clock on the wall?
I remember seeing a 3D porn video where a mosquito let it on the male actor’s thigh and he proceeds to kill it. It was awesome.
For $3500 and no VR porn, might as well just have real sex. 🤷🏻♂️
It’s cheaper to fly to Thailand and have legal sex and still be under 3500.
Their mini OLED screen is an absolute gamechanger but damn that thing must be expensive.
Also if the battery is already external I don’t see why they didn’t put the processing off the headset too. The thing is way too heavy.
Cool. Big screen VR is cheaper and lighter, that’s your competition.
I’d argue you can go much cheaper. Also their real competitor in terms of standalone hmds is Meta, not beyond. Beyond is a niche pc only product, not a standalone experience with social potential.
Isn’t that what the high end Vision is for? I would think a lower end model would target a different audience instead of just being cheaper and crappier.
Don’t see why that’d be the case, they might focus on it being a lighter model or something that also happens to have lower specs
It’s certainly possible, but they wouldn’t want it to cannibalize sales for the premium product.
I guess we’ll see though.
Oh shit! I saw a video of something totally unrelated the other day, but it involved using a drone and one of these headsets. I assumed it was just for the drone he had and more or less just a cheap head mounted display and not an actual VR headset. I want one… 🤤