which I hate… especially the “shorts”…

tween daughter has adhd, easily falls into tiktok brainrot hellholes. Has trouble with self-regulation and self-control… I still want her to have music to listen to and do things (some lofi to study/chill to, etc)… but now, Spotify is yet another vector for distraction that consumes her.

People be like “parent’s should take responsibility for their kids”… I’m like “mf, I’m trying, but every app in the world is trying to be social media” And the parental controls they offer are shiiiiiiiit. Because it’s not in a companies best interest to provide parents with tools to limit features.

What the hell!

I was just kidding/projecting on a shitty future…

Bring back the ruthless top 8 friends.

I just had my 8 variations of parodied Jesus.

What like in Jira?

Yeah I'll never forget the first time I saw someone just casually browsing IMGUR and I was like WTF are you doing?

Which they can sell to advertisers LLM and AI companies.

It’s not talked about too much, because it is not in the best interest of the stockholders. But AI as it was popularized by openAI and both images and text generators already reached a boundary of data availability. There’s no more human made data. They are now resorting to synthetic data, which is to make one first generation LLM model create tons of data to train newer or more tailored weighs models. With the issue that this new models develop problems from inbreeding of the data. Training models on other genAI products poisons the models and corrupts their generative power in just a few generations. This is why genAI images are increasingly turning yellow, the same reason newer models are more fragile and hallucinate or go psychotic more easily than old models. So, the AI companies need new sources of human made data to mix in with the synthetic data.

The main problem is that we ran out, there’s no more data made by humans to train AI with. Humans don’t create new data fast enough to train all the new models with the new doodads and features the AI companies want to sell. So now these companies will pay anything just to get their hands on new fresh stuff. These is why any app in the planet will now pivot to do anything they can to get chats going. It’s a new source of data to sell to data brokers.

Love that. How long did it take you?

I gotta ask - why not just play the music on your phone?

What did you use to acquire your Spotify music? They cleaned a lot of software that could do that a while ago.

Just checked it out, looks good and pays out really well!

Does it have gapless playback? Spotify says it does but it rarely works.

I am testing Deezer at the moment. To import playlists and songs, they advertise this 3rd party service, which worked for me.

I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.

I switched to Qobuz. They use soundiiz.com to migrate, I think it was free transfering to them?

I think it reported a 90% success rate + a few that it picked, but got wrong. It mostly failed on my instrumental stuff, standard stuff was fine.

I am very happy with my recent switch from Spotify to TIDAL

I’ve been a happy Tidal user for years fwiw. The app is great as is music availability and discovery. I went back to Spotify for a while because I was missing its discovery features like discover weekly, but Tidal has greatly improved since then, and now features a daily discovery playlist (10 tracks, which I greatly prefer to Spotify’s weekly 30), plus 8 custom mixes based on genres you listen to. Track radio is also solid.

Also, it’s maybe the only subscription service that instead of creating new tiers, merged the two it had before into one, keeping the upper tier’s features at the lower one’s cost

Apple music. High bitrate and aptx on android. And they pay artists more than Spotify. I moved over a while ago but I used some website to transfer over all my music.

Edit: looks like apple music might have the ability to transfer your music built into it now?macrumors.com/…/apple-music-transfer-tool-6-more-…

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I would gladly have you leech 5000 songs off me in Soulseek if it meant Spotify was losing a customer.

Yes definitely!

there's no music stores on the high seas, matey.

A lot of artists these days dont even sell their songs. Its kind of frustrating but soulseek is always there to fill that gap.

Everyone. Damn near everyone has a phone at this point, Facebook even handed them out to keep the user numbers growing at one point

People who live in dirt floor huts walk to churches or other gathering places to charge them. The cheapest smart phones are essentially worthless, so there’s no point stealing or selling them.

And cell service isn’t all that expensive to run, so it’s priced to what people will pay

I think it’s both. There are an unbelievable number of people on Facebook, and there are also a TON of bots and inauthentic users. Meta has every incentive to exaggerate their numbers and permit bad actors (at least up to the point that real users are driven away). Same goes for all corporate social media.

There’s something to be said for curated “auto” playlists, both for background and discovering stuff.

That being said, Pandora is waaaay better at this. So are free broadcasts/channels like Radio Paradise.

My wife is one of those people and I beg her over and over to just let me host her music.

But spotify is easy and fast,

So you mean it’s convenient. That’s a valid reason. Evil shit aside, that’s literally why music streaming exploded the way it did.

Unfortunately, the evil shit is pushing me away. Why can’t we just have a regular music streaming service that doesn’t inevitably suffer from feature creep and enshittification? Why does everything have to constantly increase profits?

You may be right, but there are less shit services. I’ll try quoboz or deezer before giving my money to jackasses like Dorcey or Spotify owner funding AI weapons.

Oh yeah I forgot about that because I disabled it 2 minutes after seeing it for the first time.

There was a short time period, during which Spotify would automatically start playing reel-like demos of song releases with audio, when you open the app.

Imagine following artists with explicit lyrics, and it starts blasting in the public, because you just wanted to show an album to your friends. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it also included artists that are popular in your area, which makes even worse, as a lot of people here listen drill music.

Luckily, they reverted the stupid change.

You can turn this off in the settings.

Don’t forget putting fake AI songs into playlists when they think people won’t notice. After all they already pay artists the least of all the streaming services, might as well try to avoid it all together.

Nobody that likes music should be using Spotify.

of course feel free to use the competition we eliminated.

You are mentioning things that enshitified it. Radio used to good, I’ve discovered 1000s of new songs through radio and 1000s of non mainstream artists through discover weekly playlist. The price raising has always been a stain, at first it was so cheap I didnt mind the price going up but its gone to far now. Its so crap now though, barely a music streaming platform.

I have to because my grandma spent so much effort learning how to use it and she loves it.

My post was not supposed to be that TikTok specifically is bad.

my point was every platform (that uses attention as money generator) would eventually be some kind of short videos which emulates pov of user (vertical interface instead of TV horizontal interface) that encourage “engagements”