small44@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 09:56
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Was that a well guarded secret?
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
on 13 Sep 2024 10:01
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And since it wasn't ever a secret that these services are for data harvesting, they got next to nothing from me. I mean does it make a substancial difference if they sell your data or use it to get to know you so they can do targeted advertising... Or train an AI with it? I'd say the latter isn't even that bad compared to the other business model. But yeah, be cautious about these tech companies. Generally speaking they're not invested in your privacy. On the contrary. If you value that, use other services. And it's been that way for quite some time.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 10:17
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You all realize this same shit is happening here right?
It’s a public forum 🤦♂️
SARGE@startrek.website
on 13 Sep 2024 11:45
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And since this is the world we live in, most people proceed with that understanding.
This was not the case in 2007.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 15:00
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Yes it was. What crack are you on? From day 2, the second that shit was made public to college students it was HAMMERED into everyone’s head that shit would be public. The boomers on Fox News knew this shit was public.
FaceDeer@fedia.io
on 13 Sep 2024 11:57
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It's almost doublethink, people celebrating how the Fediverse is an open protocol for sharing public discussion and then going surprised-Pikachu at the notion that public discussion might be viewed by someone the don't want to view it.
If you don't mean for something to be public, don't post it on a public forum.
That’s why I think the final iteration of the fediverse will be a mostly defederated bunch of echochamber bubbles. People don’t actually want diverse opinions. They want a diverse group of people to share their opinion so that they can feel theirs is the dominant, right one. Give it 5 years and the fediverse will be just as much walled off and divided as the rest of the internet is now.
People like to complain about the evil’s of humanity and yet always seem to act like it’s forced upon us by some outside force. Like the 1% are a different species and not just glowing examples of our worst traits cranked up to max. Like someone else is making humanity act this way. But nah, it’s just us and our nature. And until we understand and address that properly, none of our problems are going anywhere.
Telorand@reddthat.com
on 13 Sep 2024 13:57
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The point of the Fediverse is decentralization. The services don’t have to talk to each other at all, but they all use the same open ActivityPub standard, so they can by virtue of what that standard is capable of providing.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 14:58
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The point is they won’t. In figuring will continue over every fucking little thing THE VEGANS ARE CRAZY SO BAN THEM
Telorand@reddthat.com
on 13 Sep 2024 16:04
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If they wall themselves off, that’s not an inherently bad thing. One gigantic public forum was never the goal. One where anyone has the opportunity (but not right) to participate is the goal.
And if you don’t like how an instance is doing things, you aren’t “just stuck with it,” like you would be with a centralized service. By way of example, my instance doesn’t have downvotes, and I would be unhappy with one that has that capability turned on, like lemmy.world. If Reddthat decided to defederate and do Local Only, I would leave and go to another instance, but Lemmy would still be there.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 14:57
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Already is. Forums with extra steps unfortunately.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee
on 13 Sep 2024 12:10
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I remember when the FediPact people were saying various fediverse instances needed to defederate from Threads because Meta was going to use it to scrape comments…
My brother in Christ, you’re spewing your comments in a million directions with the ActivityPub protocol. They don’t even have to scrape, and defederating them won’t do shit.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 15:08
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Don’t get me started on this shit. The privacy people are well.
Oh I’m sure the person running this instance from his basement is going to handle my gdpr request better than Meta 🙄 definitely can’t pull down a hash table from the db with zero accountability
7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Sep 2024 14:20
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No shit Sherlock!
People who know how to use a forum aren’t the ones who need to know a public forum is public.
What kind of gotchas did you think you were making?
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 14:56
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Lololol I didn’t think everyone here had thought through this lololol. You are wildly optimistic.
Everyone screaming left and right about employeer and school admissions scanning the site.
littlewonder@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 20:17
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They could at least be a bro and make this data easily searchable for me then. I hate always revisiting Reddit when looking for info on obscure shit.
FunnyUsername@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 2024 10:22
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Deleted my Facebook in my freshman year of college in 2006 because a terrible person from my hs died from a drug overdose. I posted something like “death is sad but he was not a good person and i won’t miss him” and got jumped on by a bunch of people i already thought were annoying, so i said “fuck this whole website”. It was still when you needed to be in a school to join.
It’s been a crazy ride all these years watching all the terrible things that Facebook does, and people just keep using it. Helped elect trump. Steals and launders art. Takes advantage of all your data. Fosters terrorism and crimes. Just a huge shit hole. “but it has its own built in craigslist!” 🙄😒
Im not one to say you can never speak ill of the dead, but man to bash someone right after they die among a group of people that likely includes his friends requires a special type of social cluelessness, or straight up being a bad person.
FunnyUsername@lemmy.world
on 14 Sep 2024 11:38
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He died in hs. I was in college. It was years later. Thanks for saying I’m basically retarded or a straight up terrible human because of a short post on the internet about Facebook.
You are the reason i left Facebook. I’ll just block you here on lemmy.
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Was that a well guarded secret?
And since it wasn't ever a secret that these services are for data harvesting, they got next to nothing from me. I mean does it make a substancial difference if they sell your data or use it to get to know you so they can do targeted advertising... Or train an AI with it? I'd say the latter isn't even that bad compared to the other business model. But yeah, be cautious about these tech companies. Generally speaking they're not invested in your privacy. On the contrary. If you value that, use other services. And it's been that way for quite some time.
You all realize this same shit is happening here right?
It’s a public forum 🤦♂️
And since this is the world we live in, most people proceed with that understanding.
This was not the case in 2007.
Yes it was. What crack are you on? From day 2, the second that shit was made public to college students it was HAMMERED into everyone’s head that shit would be public. The boomers on Fox News knew this shit was public.
It's almost doublethink, people celebrating how the Fediverse is an open protocol for sharing public discussion and then going surprised-Pikachu at the notion that public discussion might be viewed by someone the don't want to view it.
If you don't mean for something to be public, don't post it on a public forum.
.
.
That’s why I think the final iteration of the fediverse will be a mostly defederated bunch of echochamber bubbles. People don’t actually want diverse opinions. They want a diverse group of people to share their opinion so that they can feel theirs is the dominant, right one. Give it 5 years and the fediverse will be just as much walled off and divided as the rest of the internet is now.
People like to complain about the evil’s of humanity and yet always seem to act like it’s forced upon us by some outside force. Like the 1% are a different species and not just glowing examples of our worst traits cranked up to max. Like someone else is making humanity act this way. But nah, it’s just us and our nature. And until we understand and address that properly, none of our problems are going anywhere.
The point of the Fediverse is decentralization. The services don’t have to talk to each other at all, but they all use the same open ActivityPub standard, so they can by virtue of what that standard is capable of providing.
The point is they won’t. In figuring will continue over every fucking little thing THE VEGANS ARE CRAZY SO BAN THEM
If they wall themselves off, that’s not an inherently bad thing. One gigantic public forum was never the goal. One where anyone has the opportunity (but not right) to participate is the goal.
And if you don’t like how an instance is doing things, you aren’t “just stuck with it,” like you would be with a centralized service. By way of example, my instance doesn’t have downvotes, and I would be unhappy with one that has that capability turned on, like lemmy.world. If Reddthat decided to defederate and do Local Only, I would leave and go to another instance, but Lemmy would still be there.
Already is. Forums with extra steps unfortunately.
I remember when the FediPact people were saying various fediverse instances needed to defederate from Threads because Meta was going to use it to scrape comments…
My brother in Christ, you’re spewing your comments in a million directions with the ActivityPub protocol. They don’t even have to scrape, and defederating them won’t do shit.
Don’t get me started on this shit. The privacy people are well.
Oh I’m sure the person running this instance from his basement is going to handle my gdpr request better than Meta 🙄 definitely can’t pull down a hash table from the db with zero accountability
No shit Sherlock!
People who know how to use a forum aren’t the ones who need to know a public forum is public.
What kind of gotchas did you think you were making?
Lololol I didn’t think everyone here had thought through this lololol. You are wildly optimistic.
Everyone screaming left and right about employeer and school admissions scanning the site.
They could at least be a bro and make this data easily searchable for me then. I hate always revisiting Reddit when looking for info on obscure shit.
Deleted my Facebook in my freshman year of college in 2006 because a terrible person from my hs died from a drug overdose. I posted something like “death is sad but he was not a good person and i won’t miss him” and got jumped on by a bunch of people i already thought were annoying, so i said “fuck this whole website”. It was still when you needed to be in a school to join.
It’s been a crazy ride all these years watching all the terrible things that Facebook does, and people just keep using it. Helped elect trump. Steals and launders art. Takes advantage of all your data. Fosters terrorism and crimes. Just a huge shit hole. “but it has its own built in craigslist!” 🙄😒
Im not one to say you can never speak ill of the dead, but man to bash someone right after they die among a group of people that likely includes his friends requires a special type of social cluelessness, or straight up being a bad person.
He died in hs. I was in college. It was years later. Thanks for saying I’m basically retarded or a straight up terrible human because of a short post on the internet about Facebook.
You are the reason i left Facebook. I’ll just block you here on lemmy.
I love posters who announce they are blocking you. Such a good person that they’ve gotta get that last dig in. Lol
How to train the dumbest AI imaginable
God just imagine the racism.
AI are already ”hallucinating”, imagine the conspiracy theories they’ll come up with.
I wish we could held corporations accountable for the stupidity of their AI
How to give AI brain cancer in 1 easy step
Which is expected,
publichas a meaningTime to start posting nothing but chat gpt answers on Facebook. Because that’s probably what people will do.
Artificial intelligence built upon real stupidity.
so when will skynet emerge??
Next version of Llama:
“As an AI assistant, I am only able to provide radical conservative opinions”
Oh it’s gonna be cranky.
And racist. And homophobic. And have really strong opinions on the Bratz movie.
no they cant because i pasted that thing saying I didnt give them permission back in 2014
I’ve done my part by feeding it nothing but cat pictures, shitposts, and memes for 10 years.