Meanwhile, Mike Pence still hanging around on Facebook.
Whatever happened to that guy anyway?
iowagneiss@midwest.social
on 17 Feb 13:18
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He has a very low bar by most of the developed world’s standards, but he refused to lower it further for maga, so he’s history now.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 13:50
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He was a conservative, not a MAGA supporter in my opinion. At the end of the day I have to see it as conservatives have ideals that do not align with mine, but MAGA is a group that believes that their ideals matter more than the people’s freedoms. They believe tearing apart a representative democracy is fine, so long as their ideology prospers at the moment, but it is VERY short sighted as their ideology isn’t why the leaders of MAGA is reforming it. Once they have reformed it the conservatives who supported MAGA will no longer have much say in anything, their votes won’t matter. The oligarchs will decide what size rations they/we deserve, and we all know those rations are shrinking and shrinking.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
on 17 Feb 15:46
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he was the religious conservative that Trump needed to win the first time, once that was done he was suppose to be wallpaper. His creepy behavior made him perfectly hypocritical with Trump. His god will judge him harshly.
He suffered the same fate that any Republican will who stops kissing Trump’s feet. Pence is a fucking nutbag but even he refused to stand behind Trump’s shitfuckery at the end. Now he’s been ostracized.
an American permutation of the CCP’s WeChat app model where the American government has final and singular authority to monitor and surveil all payments, domestic travel and communications of American citizens.
I know things are defcon level insane,but reading that, the as is way they phrase and apply the terms, by someone with that specific set of skills, makes things sound (they are) so much more malicious.
Welcome to America 2.0 : death to america, hello network state.
It is, but Signal and Matrix aren’t really all that similar. Matrix’s privacy is pretty atrocious. It stores tons of meta data about users all over the place. That’s the exact opposite of what Signal does.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 17 Feb 14:15
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yup. signal devs/servers have NO access at all to anything about the conversations.
Matrix leaks a ton of metadata and for normal users the clients are still very much in the sucking phase. Signal being centralized changes nothing about its security when the freaking servers can’t see anything about the messages. It literally is the most secure way to communicate out there, period.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 17 Feb 14:47
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Thanks; is leaking metadata just a consequence of the decentralized nature or is it something specific to how Matrix was made? Maybe I’ll try out Signal (I’ve been looking for some alternatives) but I don’t like how they’re based in America/5 Eyes, even if they are encrypted.
Because its a more user friendly experience. Your grandma can use it with no hustle. Matrix is more complicated UX and also much slower and buggier (at least if you use Element and matrix.org). Ive actually started to prefer Delta Chat over Matrix.
It’s more private and secure, and it’s easier to use/recommend.
Matrix stores all metadata, and most all of it makes it’s way to the matrix.org (default instance) server and is subject to dragnet subpoenas. It’s also complicated to use, incredibly slow, and resource-intensive.
The people who unfortunately have to get government updates from the place. After Facebook became a pain, Twitter became (for a while, when you didn’t have to log in) a pretty decent way to update people on things like roadworks or weather warnings.
Joking for real, or seriously for real? The vast majority of people that used twitter are still using twitter. This applies to users in the united states, of course, but it especially applies to those in the entire rest of the world, where elon’s shit largely hasn’t crossed the culture/language barrier, or doesn’t matter to people.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
on 17 Feb 16:43
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should be a lesson to those excited about iphones using starlink
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml
on 17 Feb 17:04
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Free speech readings, increasing! Liberty levels, maximum! Freedom metrics, exploding!!! IMA BUSSSS!!!..oh nvm, the techno-fascist douchebag was a lying hypocrite the whole time.
They fear open source software because it is one of the only thing that threatens their technofascist hegemony.
This only further proves that we are investing in platforms that are chipping away at them.
liquidthex@reddthat.com
on 17 Feb 19:35
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So, basically, you can be 100% sure that he has the ability to read your messages on other platforms.
Suavevillain@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 20:04
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It is a matter time before they try to get it banned.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Feb 20:08
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The first step would probably be to try and revoke their tax exempt non profit status. But I’m confident the Signal Foundation would at that point just move to another jurisdiction. Maybe Canada, Switzerland or something like that.
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 20:24
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Ahem excuse me you must mean the 51st state, or Switzerland, or something like that
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 Feb 05:52
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And yet, sadly, there are only like 5 people in my entire contact list who use it.
What a shame…
frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 07:10
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most likely a spam detection issue.
I wish europe banned anhy of the american social media, my applications would finally have a chance. But europeans won’t do that because they are huge pussies when it comes to americans. Unlike the chinese who created a whole internet universe for themselves, and they don’t even bother translating it to english anymore
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The irony. I believe this tweet gave Signal a huge international boost.
Yeah, so much traffic it actually crashed the servers for a little bit
Meanwhile, Mike Pence still hanging around on Facebook.
Whatever happened to that guy anyway?
He has a very low bar by most of the developed world’s standards, but he refused to lower it further for maga, so he’s history now.
He was a conservative, not a MAGA supporter in my opinion. At the end of the day I have to see it as conservatives have ideals that do not align with mine, but MAGA is a group that believes that their ideals matter more than the people’s freedoms. They believe tearing apart a representative democracy is fine, so long as their ideology prospers at the moment, but it is VERY short sighted as their ideology isn’t why the leaders of MAGA is reforming it. Once they have reformed it the conservatives who supported MAGA will no longer have much say in anything, their votes won’t matter. The oligarchs will decide what size rations they/we deserve, and we all know those rations are shrinking and shrinking.
he was the religious conservative that Trump needed to win the first time, once that was done he was suppose to be wallpaper. His creepy behavior made him perfectly hypocritical with Trump. His god will judge him harshly.
just hanging around
Man Trump supporters won’t quit huh?
He suffered the same fate that any Republican will who stops kissing Trump’s feet. Pence is a fucking nutbag but even he refused to stand behind Trump’s shitfuckery at the end. Now he’s been ostracized.
Look at the date, lmao.
Free Speech Absolutist 🤣
He meant "free speech abolitionist", easy typo to make.
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Those billionaires need to look out for eachother.
I say it again and again, and I cant wrap my head around how nobody would agree or straight up kill for this belief.
But why… Why wont people think of the SHAREHOLDERS!!! ;((((
Devastating…
It’ll be easier on them to do so if they were all placed in the same room
I would like them to be imprisoned on a island. It would be a Battle Royal that I can get behind.
🤦♂️
He only cares about free speech when he can control what and whom it is flooded to. If you disagree with him, it will get automatically prioritized for the trash heap and chances are his critics will have worked it out of their system to bother complaining somewhere else, giving him a two for one. The russian troll factory strategy: https://theconversation.com/i-investigated-millions-of-tweets-from-the-kremlins-troll-factory-and-discovered-classic-propaganda-techniques-reimagined-for-the-social-media-age-237712
I know things are defcon level insane,but reading that, the as is way they phrase and apply the terms, by someone with that specific set of skills, makes things sound (they are) so much more malicious.
Welcome to America 2.0 : death to america, hello network state.
That’s quite a strong endorsement for Signal.
I agree
Didn’t the MAGA insurrection use Signal to coordinate their efforts?
Wait wait…yes, follow dear leader to an app that keeps your history and doesn’t encrypt at rest. You have nothing to hide and nothing to fear.
No, they used Telegram because they’re idiots and don’t understand privacy.
Damn I should use signal
Absolutely
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Isn’t Signal still centralised? Why use it over Matrix? (genuine question)
It is, but Signal and Matrix aren’t really all that similar. Matrix’s privacy is pretty atrocious. It stores tons of meta data about users all over the place. That’s the exact opposite of what Signal does.
yup. signal devs/servers have NO access at all to anything about the conversations.
Signal is person to person messaging with groups on the side (ala WhatsApp)
Matrix is groups with person to person on the side (ala Discord)
Ooh thanks that makes more sense
You use Simplex over Signal for improved privacy and no identifiers, not Matrix.
Signal is still very good though.
I think SimpleX is the currently the best chat app, with potential to be much more.
Matrix leaks a ton of metadata and for normal users the clients are still very much in the sucking phase. Signal being centralized changes nothing about its security when the freaking servers can’t see anything about the messages. It literally is the most secure way to communicate out there, period.
Thanks; is leaking metadata just a consequence of the decentralized nature or is it something specific to how Matrix was made? Maybe I’ll try out Signal (I’ve been looking for some alternatives) but I don’t like how they’re based in America/5 Eyes, even if they are encrypted.
But yeah, that’s the thing, it doesn’t matter where it is based when there can’t be any information gleamed from it.
In terms of message security, but they could shut down the servers and disrupt the service for a while.
Signal literally couldn’t give away your communications if they wanted to, everyone who disagrees with the way things are going should be using it.
There’s some people trying to run messaging services over TOR, no idea if much is gained from it
Because its a more user friendly experience. Your grandma can use it with no hustle. Matrix is more complicated UX and also much slower and buggier (at least if you use Element and matrix.org). Ive actually started to prefer Delta Chat over Matrix.
It’s more private and secure, and it’s easier to use/recommend.
Matrix stores all metadata, and most all of it makes it’s way to the matrix.org (default instance) server and is subject to dragnet subpoenas. It’s also complicated to use, incredibly slow, and resource-intensive.
I think I remember him endorsing signal years ago which gave it at big boost at the time
What don’t they block? But that’s not unique either. I could not put the word Signal into my WhatsApp status before deleting the app.
Free speech!
Hey, that’s only for billionaires.
Man… I’m getting tired of this guy.
…only just now?
but for real, who is still using x? i thought it was just a bunch of mouth breather magas at this point.
The people who unfortunately have to get government updates from the place. After Facebook became a pain, Twitter became (for a while, when you didn’t have to log in) a pretty decent way to update people on things like roadworks or weather warnings.
Everyone who’s not a paranoid leftist uses X; I find current information about every subject I’m interested in seconds
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sounds like you do your own research
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.
“Gotta find a way, a better way…”
Wrong, the science community is slowly switching to bluesky
And a bunch of them are on mastodon
You don’t find iinformation, you find hot takes. Xitter is a cesspool if you want to learn about anything.
You sound like the type of guy who drives a cybertruck and practices Elons “odd hand gesture” in your bedroom at night.
You sound like you’re about to lose your farm
Lol, Alex Jones style research. Using memes and headlines as news.
That’s still half the US population though.
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Oh thats going to be bad news when musk sells them all that info
Oddly, many reporters still do
Joking for real, or seriously for real? The vast majority of people that used twitter are still using twitter. This applies to users in the united states, of course, but it especially applies to those in the entire rest of the world, where elon’s shit largely hasn’t crossed the culture/language barrier, or doesn’t matter to people.
Great, free publicity for Signal!
That’s what I thought when I first saw this
signal.org
should be a lesson to those excited about iphones using starlink
Free speech readings, increasing! Liberty levels, maximum! Freedom metrics, exploding!!! IMA BUSSSS!!!..oh nvm, the techno-fascist douchebag was a lying hypocrite the whole time.
He says he wants free speech, but all he ever wanted was to replace the previous censorship and propaganda regime with his own.
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This is huge. But there’s such an onslaught of stuff coming it doesn’t get the attention needed
They are flooding the zone... The real crime is actually buried while fake news running distrations with bullshit
Free speech absolution guy who promotrd Signal not that long ago, only likes free speech (and most likely only signal) for me but not for thee
They fear open source software because it is one of the only thing that threatens their technofascist hegemony.
This only further proves that we are investing in platforms that are chipping away at them.
So, basically, you can be 100% sure that he has the ability to read your messages on other platforms.
It is a matter time before they try to get it banned.
The first step would probably be to try and revoke their tax exempt non profit status. But I’m confident the Signal Foundation would at that point just move to another jurisdiction. Maybe Canada, Switzerland or something like that.
Ahem excuse me you must mean the 51st state, or Switzerland, or something like that
Canada going to be 52nd state–after Greendland 😆😆 (just kidding)
Would Mexico and Panama be the 53rd and 54th then?
Now if more is Americans would listen and move this platform.
That sounds more like free advertisement for Signal
“Our product is banned on twitter!”
I hope Signal doesnt end up getting outlawed in the US. Elon musk seems to be against it now, and he has a lot of power these days.
There’s a saying some of our american comrads have: come and take it
And when they come, oh boy do they roll over and give it to them.
The Free Speech Absolutist everybody!
And yet, sadly, there are only like 5 people in my entire contact list who use it.
What a shame…
most likely a spam detection issue.
I wish europe banned anhy of the american social media, my applications would finally have a chance. But europeans won’t do that because they are huge pussies when it comes to americans. Unlike the chinese who created a whole internet universe for themselves, and they don’t even bother translating it to english anymore