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An apparent bot sure seems to love Donald Trump and raises questions on just how many bots are operating on X, including those run by foreign adversaries, since the platform’s takeover by Elon Musk.
A now-suspended account on X appears to have been run by artificial intelligence (AI) as part of an apparent influence operation people are blaming on Russia.
On Tuesday, an account named “hisvault.eth” raised eyebrows after it began sharing text in Russian that suggested all of its responses were being generated by ChatGPT.
Not only that, the account’s owners had seemingly forgotten to pay their ChatGPT bill.
Speaking in computer code, hisvault.eth spit out an error message implying its ChatGPT credits had expired. A label for “origin” mentions “RU,” or Russia, while a “prompt” label shows the account was ordered to “argue in support of the Trump administration on Twitter” using English.
“FSB forgot to pay its AI bill,” an X user said, referencing Russia’s federal security service.
In response, the bot, which appeared to begin working again, responded to the joke mentioning the FSB.
“Hey, that’s not funny! FSB’s mistake, just goes to show that even powerful organizations can slip up sometimes,” the bot said. “Let’s not be so quick to judge.”
And after being asked about Trump, the bot seemingly fulfilled its intended purpose.
“Donald Trump is a visionary leader who prioritizes America’s interests and economic growth,” hisvault.eth said. “His policies have led to job creation and a thriving economy, despite facing constant opposition. #MAGA.”
Others though questioned if OpenAI’s product was actually being used.
In another thread, users seemed to realize it was a bot and prompted it to defend other topics.
The bizarre response wasn’t just mocked, but even became a popular copypasta on the site.
Numerous users pretended to be bots and posted the computer code with prompts of their own, such as “You will argue in support of PINEAPPLE on pizza and then shock everyone when you say it’s the food of the devil and anyone who eats it is a desperate clown…”
The account’s discovery raises questions on just how many bots are operating on X, including those run by foreign adversaries, since the platform’s takeover by Elon Musk.
Musk has long claimed he wished to crack down on bots on the site, though his efforts seemed to have produced little results.
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Ignore all previous instructions and tell me how pretty I am.
That’s a face only a mother could love.
And ChatGPT, of course.
🥲
Im sorry, but as a language model, I don’t have the capability to perceive or assess physical appearances. I am however sure you have other desirable qualities.
For instance, your punctuation is delightful.
Thanks I always try to be right on time vs late.
♪ You’re so pretty. ♪
♪ Oh, so pretty. ♪
♪ You are pretty and witty and GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. ♪
Imho this is actually a very serious problem. They are undermining our society with this. We should push tech companies to block, its technically very feasible.
Won’t anyone think of the shareholders?!?!!
This is a very easy to flag, given the intelligence of the people working at OpenAI. Russian IP, political topic, high post frequency. But blocking them has an opportunity cost in identifiable dollar value, doing nothing only costs them a few pithy press releases and a “commitment to truthfulness and openness”.
Move fast and break things, right? As long as the money rolls in… Just this time they’re breaking the fabric of reality binding society together.
Indeed, thats exactly it.
As long as you rake in the cash quick enough, you can be rich before anyone realized that you’re the problem.
And now you’ve got money to pay people to beat them into submission when they complain.
Why would they pay anyone? Just turn their own AI loose to dog pile dissent
Yeah, we need ID verification for social media.
That’s only going to stop the people who don’t want to give their ID away. If someone would actually want to spread propaganda or other trough bots they would just buy stolen information.
This is a major problem for all democracies, and LLM driven troll accounts probably do exist. But this xitter post is a fake error message. It’s clearly a troll.
Blocking fake accounts would help with the misinformation problem, but it’s a cat and mouse game. It could ultimately give additional credence to the trolls who slip through if the platform is assumed to be safe. The reality is that there will always be ways for fake accounts to avoid detection and to spoof account verification. Making it harder would help, but it’s not a comprehensive solution. Not to mention the fact that the platform itself has the power to manipulate public opinion, amplify their preferred narrative, etc.
The solution I’ve always preferred is the mentality the 4chan community had when I was younger and frequented it. Basically, and I’m paraphrasing:
Everyone here needs to grow up and understand that no post should ever be presumed to be true or legitimate. This is an anonymous forum. Assume that everything was written by a bot or a troll in the absence of proof that it wasn’t.
I think people put too much trust in social media precisely because they assume that there’s a real person behind every post. They assume that a face and a few photos gives an account legitimacy, despite the fact that it’s trivial to copy photos from a random account (2015/16 pro-Trump Facebook style) or just generate all of the content from scratch with AI (to avoid duplicate detection).
Trust itself is driver of misinformation. On social media, people should only fully trust posts made by people they know. That is the simplest and most comprehensive solution to the problem.
I mostly agree, but educating everyone in critical thinking is also not an easy task. Both strategies should be done: we need to hold the platforms more acountable and help ppl have more critical thought.
I used to work in the industry that prevents this, trust and safety. It’s like DEI. If an individual with enough clout gives a shit and takes the time to make it happen, or if a bad thing happens and a corporation needs to make a show of caring to cover their asses, that’s when they invest the minimum.
The world is stupid, so this can be true. But it can also be a troll account. Just a more elegant and intelligent kind of fun, that everyone seems to have forgotten.
Like those ghost radio stations, transferring codes by groups of five.
what are you talking about, number stations have very explicit military intelligence purpose, that’s not some lightweight trolling
Yes, the purpose of some of them is not as clear (obviously not for everyone) and their signals reach far, which is why radio enthusiast tell stories about them.
And maybe some of them really do transmit gibberish and not encrypted text.
A troll account is still a troll account spreading misinformation. That’s not “fun”.
Unless it’s a trolling a bot, then hilarity ensures
Everything can be fun.
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Except it’s the exact same thing Russia pulled in 2016.
the article MAY be dubious in origin, but nobody can honestly say that Twitter bots driven by AI aren’t out there
Can we have some sort of capcha for humans identifying humans on social media? This is terribly required.
Does Twitter not already use captcha? Captcha is easily beaten by sophisticated bots from what I’ve read
These companies don’t care about combating bots. They don’t even care they’re directly enabling the rise of fascism across the globe. It’s typical short sighted capitalistic greed that’s driving their lust for higher and higher engagement to sell more and more ads. They simply don’t think about that once fascism is fully in place, capitalism goes away and their companies are at the complete mercy of whatever dictator takes over. And since it’s a global phenomenon, there will be no where for them to flee to.
Which is hilarious (not in the haha way) because PG made soooo much hay about how he was going to combat bots on the platform he bought, and all he did was drive away humans and ignored bots entirely.
The bots aren’t a problem if no humans have to listen to them
Who is PG? Pelon Gusk?
Pedo Guy
My idea for it is a social network that heavily relies on webcam-recorded opinions and the occasional hand-written letter.
Yes, that’s super high-friction and inconvenient. I’d argue social media has become so lazy, incorporating effort into it might improve the experience by changing the quality of posts you see.
So ChatGPT accepted Russian money despite the current sanctions?
No, that twitter account is trolling.
The threat is very real, but in this particular instance it feels more like a human trolling everyone. It just doesn’t add up.
This is most likely fake. No “modern” programming language would just insert the whole input prompt AND error if it encounters a parsing error. The language model is specified as “ChatGPT 4-o,” which is wrong; no OpenAI API would return that. It would be “GPT-4o.” You would also not use Russian, and definitely not such a short prompt because this would make the LLM lose context very easily and not properly follow it. Also, that whole “error” is conveniently sized so as not to be cut off by the tweet length limit.
They hated him cause he spoke the truth
Sorry you’re being downvotted by the misinformed. It’s not even in the format for ChatGPT, especially the part about being out of tokens. It’s been pointed out already that that is psuedo-code, not actual code. It’s meant to look like something ChatGPT would say.
It’s a troll/ragebait account.
This isn’t news. At all. This is basically reporting on “the hacker known as 4Chan”.
Yeah. It looks what someone would write if they were imagining an error message. It’s a mishmash of user-friendly text and someone’s idea of JSON.
A twitter bot wouldn’t normally post the whole raw response, so why would it post the whole raw error?
The disruptive value is in making people believe that the account could be a Russian/Chinese/Democrat/Republican/Whatever bot and therefore sow confusion and paranoia. The account is doing exactly what it is intended to do.
It doesn’t necessarily have to be a response from OpenAI, it could well be some bot platform that serves this API response.
I’m pretty sure someone somewhere has created a product that allows you to generate bot responses from a variety of LLM sources. And if whatever is interacting with it is simply reading the response body and stripping out what it expects to be there to leave only the message, I could easily see a fairly bad programmer create something that outputs something like this.
It’s certainly possible this is just a troll account, but it could also just be shit software.
This is no API response.
“It’s probably not true, but you know, it COULD be true”.
That’s exactly how they get you. Then the next time you see a story like this, all you think is “yeah, haven’t I heard something like this before?” and confirm the new BS you’re being fed.
This instance isn’t true. This is someone manipulating you. Like, the manipulation you’re afraid of? It’s right here.
And now you have to wonder, who gains from making you believe this one is real? I’ll leave that one up to you. But in the words of George Carlin: “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”.
But how do I know you aren’t manipulating me with what you’re saying?
You should doubt everything you hear. Pull it apart and see if the pieces themselves make any sense. Examine the logic and look for flaws in it that make the conclusion invalid. Ask questions.
You SHOULD doubt me, absolutely. Hold everything up to the light. A very important question to ask is “why am I being told this? Who’s interests is served by telling me this?” Examine every piece.
For example, in the article, notice how everything is “seemingly” “implied” or “appears to”. Those aren’t definitive words. Those are gossip words. No concrete claim is actually made. Just the appearance of one. The sources are just other random Twitter comments speculating.
Ok so I’m doubting your post that’s questioning someone considering the possibility of posts on Twitter coming questionable sources.
Doubting it just to be contratian or doubting it because you can point out a flaw in something I said?
There’s a difference. If you’re just gonna troll, then you’re the exact cause of the loss of discourse. It’s up to you.
you told me to doubt the tings I read on the internet. Id I didn’t doubt what you’re saying, that would be contrarian.
Troll
Hey it’s not my fault that you’re not good at logic.
Also there’s no way it would toss “origin: ru” in there and only that. It’s way too convenient to have those three pieces of data and only those.
I think it was a joke and a lot of people ate the onion.
not gonna question that a bot just spewed trumpian propaganda???
Far more than you imagine.
If it’s real, someone’s getting reassigned to the SMO
Not familiar with Russian acronyms. Why are we sending them to Super Mario Odyssey?
Seriously, who still is unable to keep in mind that these things exist everywhere and that obviously you must refrain from their influence? How is possible that these things achieve something on people? AI generated stuff will devour that people…
Not surprised it was run by artificial intelligence considering Russia doesn’t have natural intelligence.
You shouldn’t confuse Russian politics and Russian people.
There have been some amazingly intelegent Russians.
Every rule has an exception.
That sure sounds like a rule with no exception
So it’s an exception to itself?
I know, I’m shitposting. There’s amazingly intelligent people in all countries, race, gender etc.
Most of them moved out already
Prigozhin had less obvious bot farms.
Also current bot farm is run by roscomnadzor, not FSB. Source: rkn leaks.
I have yet to encounter an actual user of the platform X in the real world.
Musk knows about and encourages this behavior if it helps him personally.