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That too.

All the Far Right Authoritarians are just giddy about it all.

He’s a cheap lay for the Saudis

My speech or the highway!

Which one?

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"Conservatives don’t care about free speech. Conservatives cares about power. Faithfulness, old-time values, homemade bread, that’s the just means to the end. It’s a distraction. I thought you would have figured that out by now."

• slightly altered quote from Handmaid’s Tale

Copied this from another post I made… things make more sense when you realize what their true core principle is.

There is a good Adam Conover podcast episode where he interviews Corey Robin. In the episode Robin states the main premise of his book, which is that the central underlying ideology of the right is the belief that some people are better than others and deserve to be in power. A lot of the rights’ beliefs and ideas evolve over time but they evolve in service of that core idea. It’s the one thing that stays consistent over time going back to the french revolutions.

Multiracial, multiethnic, international cooperation, helping the homeless, helping the poor. No matter how you spin it by trying to convince them of the benefits ect, the right will never be on board. They don’t believe those groups deserve help or should be helped. They fundamentally believe it is morally good to depower certain groups and empower other groups.

That one idea explains so much of the rights blatant hypocrisy. Welfare disproportionality going to red states is good because it’s going to the good people. Rich people getting richer is good because it’s going to the good people. Hurting minorities is good because they are the bad people, helping them is bad. Some people are innately worthy and some people are not. Anything the good people do is good, anything the bad people do is bad. The same action can be good or bad depending on who is doing it.

The Donald? Where you from you don’t know:

• Hustler Magazine;
• Mad Magazine;
• Dungeons & Dragons;
• Porn;
• Mortal Combat for Sega.
• The Simpsons;
• Rap music;
• South Park;
• Kneel down during song;
• Saying “gay.”

I’m sure I’m forgetting twenty other things conservative literally tried to ban me from doing in my lifetime. Conservatives have zero credibility on free speech.

In Russia it’s illegal to talk about it’s invasion of Ukraine. It’s called an anti-sedition law. Despite the First Amendment, anti sedition laws and seditious libel were illegal and punishable by long terms of imprisonment until lefty Supreme Court Justices decides so in 1964.

These Justices on there now will flip us right back to prosecuting people for saying Israel is doing a genocide, or for saying “fuck the draft,” or for saying “fuck Donald Trump,” but not for saying “fuck Joe Biden.” Conservatives right now in America want laws that ban Americans from participating or even talking about “BDS.” Our Supreme Court in America just recently upheld such laws, without really reaching the issue, but keeping the laws alive. They also push ag-gag laws. They have zero credibility on free speech.

Conservatism is an excuse for your instant, emotional reactions.

If you formed your beliefs in schools over many years, that’s why you’re probably a liberal now.

They literally want to shoot people for simple larceny or for blocking the sidewalk in protest. It’s an ideology for people whose lizard brains make all their “decisions.” You know these people, how they just go through life reacting to things. You can trick them into believing anything. I’m not saying that if you’re a conservative you’re going to kill someone for blocking your sidewalk, I’m saying that if you lean into the ideology enough is literally deforms your amygdala and you lose touch with your ability to be rational.

One thing I enjoy is to get conservatives going about protests and police use of force especially with regard to public protests, civil disobedience, rioting, theft or destruction of private property.

Get them all fired up. You know, tell them the protesters threw snowballs and maybe ice at the cops first, and that they came into a private shipping yard, broke into private storage, stole whatever they could carry, and set a bunch of it on fire. You know, get them talking about how they’d empty the clip. Then you can reveal casually that you were talking about the Boston Massacre and Boston Tea Party. They remember from grade school how they are supposed to feel about these events, and they are unable to reconcile with their repressed and curious inner children. There defense mechanisms literally cannot process why they are advocating for the British in the revolutionary war.

You know, “what if these thieves and vandals burned your country’s flags from all government buildings, shot all the police, and said they were forming their own government with a new Constitution and to fuck off?” I like to say they are just dumb but really they are just emotionally immature and regressing.

It is abundantly clear that they do not believe in anything and operate on the basis of reacting in spite to anything they are told to. It’s basically one whole hemisphere of the political spectrum hijacked by propaganda. We genx folk thought that the free access to information on the internet would set people free but this what we got instead.

Care to elaborate that bit about capitalism?

As a non-American, I’ve been struggling to understand how Americans use these terms. Sure, I’ve seen plenty of “capitalism good, socialism bad” rhetoric, but what do people actually mean when they use them? Your example was particularly interesting, because it sounds like you’re implying that Trump promised capitalism, but failed to deliver.

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It’s the nazi bar analogy. If the owner is a Nazi, leftists shouldn’t stay there in the first place.

Sure, and when you petition the people they follow, and ask them to drop the platform, they say they have to be where their audience is. It’s an ouroboros of apathy and cowardice.

Too fucking bad. Also that’s like .002% of the people there, at most.

Wait, do we pronounce xitter and "zitter" or "shitter"?

Given his general dumbassery that's been on display for years, or is it decades now, it is not hard to see at all that he'd be easy to compromise.

The comments from when that happened a few years ago? Is that was you’re referring to?

Because I’m referring to most of the commenters in this thread having a big 'ol hate circ jerk.

In my head, being on the left used to mean compassion and tolerance, but it’s clearly the same spitefulness as the right. I’m beginning it think this is just how tribalism in general works, doesn’t matter what team you’re on

TBF they complain about being censored even if they haven't been banned, so they'd simply keep complaining about being censored. No change at all.

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The liberal media gets this all screwed up. He said:

Free speech?! Absolutionist!

ew. just ew

All those things that made twitter “useful” were terrible, even if it was good at it.

FOMO is a very powerful drug.

Because for the previous 15ish years before Musky got a hold of it it was actually decently regarded.

What? Twitter mob harassed game developer in 2019 into suicide. 3 years before american version of Rogozin bought this dumpster fire.

Why are you booing me I’m right

Reddit and by extension Lemmy were designed to enable content aggregation. I dislike people having so few principles in general but the system is working as intended by users posting things they find interesting happening elsewhere.

Here’s easy way to stop reading Twitter: not register there.

Twitter itself hepled me to stop reading it when it regwalled all the posts.

It always felt like a big void to shout into, unless you have some sort of following that listens.

It was extremely useful in sports for quick in-game updates, especially from third-party groups (like the news beat reporters, versus getting info from the team).

It’s really entrenched, though: Even with all of the chaos and controversy, it’s hard to find articles that reference something that happened in a game that don’t embed some tweets (or whatever they hell they’re called now) for the video. It’s extremely frustrating. I think, in part, that’s why the hockey community here on lemmy isn’t taking off - no one wants to link to Twitter, and there are basically no other sources.

Are you sure? Here’s real modern swastika: <img alt="" src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/09/ap22058740748734-a215ea5561c731f5c94887e20ebdc14860c07716-s1100-c50.jpg">

Although this is not current generation swastika, this is 1970-ies generation swastika.

As a wayland user I agree.

That logo really makes me feel like the site is basically Twitter under neo-Nazi occupation

This is hypocrisy. He called himself a “free speech absolutist” after he bought Twitter. He called it the “digital town square.” Ever since then, he’s banned anyone who says things he doesn’t like and keeps the Nazis. He’s absolutely a hypocrite and he should be called out on it.

1. Man calls himself as a free speech absolutist

2. Same man buys social media platform

3. Same man then mass bans people and removes comments when he doesn’t like their political leaning or they criticise him/his companies too much

How is that not hypocrisy?

that’s a bingo!

Weird that I haven’t seen any of that on lemmy

What are you even talking about? There is** zero evidence** for any rapes that is a straight up IDF Zionist story. Most of the rape “testimonies” have been completely debunked and proven to be falsified. Here is an article completely debunking it

I don’t understand how you are so confidently repeated straight up conspiracy theories as if they are cold hard undeniable facts.

The fact that you think it’s okay to ban people for people to questioning an extremely shoddy story full of inconsistencies and many straight up lies is very weird to me.

This is a journalist, not some guy who argues with random people.

Oh look, a propaganda mouthpiece

Yes, they could limit their reach even further by only using the fediverse.

Sounds just like old Twitter. Ban someone who you don’t like politically. If it’s causing to much uproar, day it was an accident/glitch. If it works, repeat. If not, repeat in a few weeks.

You say that like its a bad thing. Every twitter user Ive talked to wont shut up about how shit the twitter experience is.

I’ve checked it out, but was never a twitter user anyways, so I’m not the right audience. I think the lack of an algorithm really hurts the experience for many users. Seems like you have to put work in to get your feed right. Also, the network effect Twitter has is strong. Mastodon is probably the least toxic social media I’ve seen though.

“I would like to point out that the social media network survived…” -Elon Hammer

Pronounced “shitter”

Elon says preferred names and pronouns are dumb.

Thus I will only refer to twttr by twttr’s original name.

Or Xitler.

Any day a venture capitalist fails spectacularly at screwing people over is a good day.

If people would just use Mastodon instead of Xwitter this sort of thing would not happen.

Is that what we really want? The moronic masses flooding Mastodon?

We want ALL people using Mastodon, and not Xwitter.

Yes it is, Mastodon isnt a single instance, its a many many instances. If you’re not happy with the moderating/quality on one, move to another instance.

I think it’s fine as long as their’s no central corporate interest controlling the show. Which is a strength of FOSS, at least those projects with a robust and diverse community.

Yes. Obviously, unquestionably, clearly, yes.

Yeah i dont know why i click into twitter stories anymore.

Also doesn’t help that the USA political spectrum consists of “right” and “far right” so while they may call it “left” it’s only left compared to the far right.

There are plenty of us. The problem is the two party state. Any independent or centrist candidate is going to get drowned out.

Yes, there are some who say that. They get agreed with in person, ignored at the local party/voting level, scoffed at by media, screamed at in general on the internet, and scolded on places like lemmy or reddit (if not screamed at). There are policies that I like that for some reason have to be lumped in with policies I detest no matter which party I look at. One party (fucking GOP) is way worse than the other, but try to have a rational discussion with anonymous or outside-of-your-social-circle people, and any criticisms of a party are like blaspheming their god.

No, the RiNOs were intentionally and specifically hunted to extinction through shame and exclusion. That’s why the name, “Republican in Name Only,” is applied those who don’t embrace the party’s wildest platforms.

I think the cops are useless at best and evil at worst and im pro gun/pro CC, I find that our model of capitalism has failed but I’d rather we revert to the political economic ideas of Henry George rather than Karl Marx. Not that either is possible without violent overhaul most likely. Even just a reframing of capitalism to correct for John Adams era economic fallacies would face nigh impossible resistance from those who have already taken most of the pie.

So yeah, we exist. It’s just that we tend to get crowded out due to not falling in line with either ideology. I’ve been called everything from RINO to fascist.