Too late. People in comment section already decided to install Linux

But… clickbait and drama~~~

You should know people only read headlines!

i’m still not really sure why this would matter. Does updating break that software? Seems like an easy fix.

Definitely not. Sometimes you even have to install additional bloatware like “HP support assistant” for example to complete the update process because the built-in update system is dysfunctional af.

They probably failed upwards

I see you’re unaware of the number one rule of the Linux Kernel : DO NOT BREAK USER SPACE
The patch would be distributed the exact same way that we distribute every single other patch in Linux.

Usually it’ll be available as a flatpak or something, which is a special container that can have outdated dependencies and whatnot without impacting the rest of the system.

So if you really need some old version of VLC or something, just wrap it in a container and upgrade away! The upgrade would remove any incompatible apps (not containerized apps, just the system installed apps) and it would be on you to create or install that package if you haven’t already (almost everything old I’ve needed is already available).

So go ahead and use the VLC initial release from 2001 or whatever, you might need to do some archeology to get the right versions of dependencies though.

All drivers have to deal with fbdev and EFI DRM shenanigans and there’s no simple solution (if you insist on hiding boot messages behind pretty graphics, or having a graphical console, which most distros do unfortunately, God forbid you should kernel and system messages for 3 seconds).

Until the ancient fbdev stuff will finally be completely obsolete it’s all about compromise. Most often the distro will have a working default, in some corner cases it will backfire. Personally I set my console to text only so I don’t have to deal with any of this.

TLDR it can happen, and not necessarily on Nvidia.

Because you’re a level 1~2 technician hired in to support an enterprise windows environment and you have no choice.

I’m talking about supporting an American enterprise environment that handles medical patient data. No Linux workstations really. Easier to comply with HIPAA that way.

Is it convoluted BS? Sure why not. But Microsoft services are really sticky once you get integrated at a large scale (5k workstations plus over 100 servers).

As mentioned above, this is corporate work and it’s not as easy to sell as Microsoft

Ah. I’m working with much older hardware.

PopOS has been running games fine on my 3070 for many years at this point. It might be worth another try.

uhm, me. Or any of the various communities and forums that exist around the internet here are bound to have helpful people. Personally, i bumped to manjaro for a week. And once i was comfortable with it, i learned how to manually install arch linux. From there everything seemed doable, and it pretty much is 4 years later.

I would say it depends on your level of tech savvyness though, if you’re highly savvy, and feel like you could manage it, then i’d say you should give it a shot. If not, there are plenty of simpler distros like mint that will keep your experience heavily curated, muta recently did a video about installing mint actually.

Personally i wouldn’t recommend manjaro, it’s not that it’s bad, it’s just kind of a mess. Long story. Installing arch linux manually or at least skimming through the guide gives you a great idea of what the general linux system is constructed of. Very useful if you ever run into problems with GRUB or something.

If you’ve used debian before and managed, you’d probably be fine, debian is a great choice for a workstation if you just don’t want to think about it very much. It’ll have a lot of old software, but it’s incredibly stable. IMO, the best advice i can give is to spin up a vm, fuck around, and see what you like. Linux is about choice, exercising it is part of the process.

Oh uh, just don’t dualboot with windows, windows has a nasty propensity for nuking disks randomly sometimes, every so often a windows update will wipeout grub (it’s an easy fix but annoying and pretty daunting, if you’ve never done it before) on installs, it can sometime overwrite drives to place a bootloader there, i have no idea why.

You could check out distros like mint, zorinOS, fedora, popos, and Nobara. I think all of those will come with nvidia drivers so you don’t have to set them up manually. Nobara in particular is set up for gaming out of the box, I don’t know how well it actually works personally. You could just install Ventoy on a USB stick then load up multiple Linux distros on it, then just select the one you one to try live at boot. Mint and zorin will be the most familiar.

Lol. :)

My wife is Korean and I noped out of playing StarCraft when I visited her family. I also worked with a “minor-league” StarCraft player (played on Euro servers with a team) and a regular Korean guy, and it was always close when we’d do lan games at work afterhours (us normies would die off early and watch as those two duked it out).

So yeah, I get it. Koreans are hardcore…

This, 100%. Autodesk has full industries by the balls and just laughing their way to the bank.

Zero fucks for their user base and bloated buggy software. We would ditch them in an instant if AutoCAD wasn’t required for prints.

That still doesn’t stop you from using Linux or macos on your private devices. I’m also forced to use awful software at work but that’s I call a fraction of my salary pain money (Schmerzensgeld). That’s fine. If it is enough I’m willing to deal with Microsoft, Autodesk and the like. But in my personal life. I have the choice and I would never use it if I don’t like it.

You can still dual boot or use virtual machines in your private devices. It’s the usual workaround for people who are forced to use one particular incompatible app. That fact is literally not what’s stopping you from using Linux. It’s only stopping from using Revit on Linux, but again, that’s not on Linux, there’s nothing any of us can do, take your grievances with Autodesk. This fact doesn’t forbids you nor does it prevent you from using Linux for everything else.

And? If it works it works, who cares if it’s officially supported or not. A large amount of stuff on Linux is only supported by the community as is. Makes no difference. All it really changes is who you report bugs to depending, e.g. The Revit-for-Linux repo, WINEHQ, then Revit.

probably requires you to have un-allocated space on the drive, which is even funnier.

well the way they stopped making new windows versions after 10 (until now) seems to indicate that was the plan

The Verge asked a rep at Microsoft, and this is what they said:

When I reached out to Microsoft about Nixon’s comments, the company didn’t dismiss them at all. “Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”

So they didn’t rule out branding changes, but the changes to Win 11 seem like a pretty big change from Win 10, which seems to go against the “Windows will be delivered as a service” statement. So it’s not just that one engineer, but probably a broader push (that may have been delayed or scrapped) to push gradual updates consistently instead of larger, periodic updates. I’m no expert, but I didn’t really see much difference in how Win 10 was released vs previous versions (e.g. XP, 7, and 10 all had service packs).

frankly as long as my windows 10 license is valid in windows 11, i couldn’t care less.

But you still wouldn’t find me using windows 11.

Wasn’t the entire point of not using “Windows 9” branding and instead going straight to “Windows 10” from 8 that they didn’t want the last version of Windows to be 9, that they preferred a nice round number.

No, it’s not apples to oranges because Mac and windows are both paid support.

If you want to compare apples to apples, then sure, Mac is better than windows. That’s a low bar to beat though. I was comparing apples to oranges, which was a comparison in paid vs free support.

But yes, macs desktop environment and user experience hasn’t taken half as much of a dump as windows. But they’re also based on Linux, and don’t have to make the same commitments windows does

downgrade*

I cannot use my win11 laptop because they removed the language bar and switching keyboard layout is impossible. Unfortunately it’s something that I do on the regular since programming in my native layout is really difficult hunting down alt+some numbers for the {} and I need letters with accents like žšć when I write something

No, actually, extra ads begging me to subscribe to my own computer are a cost.

would you like to explain to me how i install a tpm 2.0 module into my hardware for free exactly?

And because linux is 99% just the programs you install on it when you do upgrade to a new version you aren’t being forced into a new system. This is why distro wars are pointless.

i imagine it’s a bit of gamble sometimes, depends on how much software was deprecated changed or moved around, a lot can happen in a support period. Regardless spinning up a new install in an automated manner should be relatively trivial, and probably something anyone can accomplish for backup purposes.