I’ll buy a 13’’ iPad Pro right now if it could do all those “non-mobile OS” things for a perfect small productivity machine.
Hell, I’ll even buy the official pen, keyboard and the non-existent docking station for office use.
natecox@programming.dev
on 11 May 2024 19:46
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It’s so frustratingly close to perfect too. It has a great screen, is more than powerful enough for all my dev work, it’s super portable, I can plug it into a monitor via alt mode, my Bluetooth keyboard works great on it…
It is like right there to being my favorite device, but the crappy mobile OS relegates it to sitting unused on my desk 85% of the time.
Really the only thing I use it for is CAD work via Shapr3D.
That’s the issue. That might be fine for you, but for others we would like it to be. The limitation isn’t hardware, so let the users decide whether they want it to be more than a big iPhone.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee
on 11 May 2024 17:37
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I did hit enter, but only once. Markdown needed 2 enters to not carry to the next return, at least in this app (thunder). I added a second return and it should display correctly now.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
on 11 May 2024 20:54
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Both 87 grade gasoline and typical red wine contains about 10% in ethanol. The limitation isn’t the ethanol. Let the users decide whether they want to consume it…? No! Just like the gasoline refineries did not make it with intention for human consumption, Apple designed the iPad hardware for a different use case than what you’d like.
Just like how the gas station attendant will tell you that you cannot consume gasoline at the gas station, Apple will tell you that you cannot run macOS at the Apple Store. If someone wishes to attempt it, there’s nothing preventing them from buying gasoline, taking it home, and attempt to consume it in their home. If someone wishes to attempt running macOS, there’s nothing preventing you from buying it, taking it home, and attempt to hack macOS onto it.
Gasoline isn’t the product for someone wanting to get drunk; just like how the iPad is not a product for you because it doesn’t fit your use case, and that’s fine. You can always wait for when they inevitably release the M4 variant of MacBook (or MacBook Air if weight is a concern), which will fit your use case better.
claudiop@lemmy.world
on 12 May 2024 03:19
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You just happen to be conflating hard limitations of a physical substance with arbitrary soft limitations. Of course you cant replace chips with sand despite both having a % of silicon. Those are entirely different things.
Wine and gasoline aren’t the same thing at all, they just happen to have one common element in their composition.
The iPad and a computer ARE the same thing. The label is something the brand puts on, it is not an hard limitation of the universe.
I personally don’t care if IKEA says that their bedroom furniture is for the bedroom. If I decide to use it as living room furniture I can and IKEA should not have a say, however they probably would if they could.
Brands like to have that weird control when they can, generally not in worries we’re doing something weird with stuff but for some strategic benefit, such as not cannibalising sales of something else.
If IKEA could bind pieces of furniture to types of room, you’d be more likely to have to buy more furniture over your lifetime. It would also maybe prevent them from having to comply with some regulation with the “our furniture is not furniture, is an… habitational support”! argument.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
on 12 May 2024 06:13
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There is no “hard” limitation differentiating guzzling down a gallon of gasoline vs a gallon of red wine; nor is there any “soft” limitation of deploying your own OS.
Vast majority of people do not possess knowledge to extract consumable ethanol from gasoline, doesn’t mean it is impossible.
Vast majority of people do not possess knowledge to attempt to deploy their own OS onto an iPad, doesn’t mean it is impossible. Very talented individuals have been hacking iOS boot loader since original iPhone (no version, no suffix) days.
If one are so inclined, there’s plenty of places to learn, and expand one’s knowledge to attempt what most aren’t able to do. The alternative? Bitch whine complain and repeat until a multi-trillion company give a damn. I ain’t holding my breath.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
on 11 May 2024 18:39
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Every year when June rolls around I wonder if they’ll do something significant with iPadOS at WWDC and it’s never the case.
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The perfect powerhouse chip to handle the iPad’s cut-down OS and half-baked apps because Apple refuses to take the iPad’s software seriously.
Right? I can’t imagine being that kind of power in a mobile OS lol
I would be way way more excited about this if I could actually use the iPad as a dev machine rather than just a big web browser.
Gimme a full terminal, let me run containers, open up installing full Mac apps, and I will buy one today to replace my aging 2017 MacBook Pro.
Of course, then their “product differentiation” vanishes and the shareholders make slightly less money…
Amen brother.
I’ll buy a 13’’ iPad Pro right now if it could do all those “non-mobile OS” things for a perfect small productivity machine.
Hell, I’ll even buy the official pen, keyboard and the non-existent docking station for office use.
It’s so frustratingly close to perfect too. It has a great screen, is more than powerful enough for all my dev work, it’s super portable, I can plug it into a monitor via alt mode, my Bluetooth keyboard works great on it…
It is like right there to being my favorite device, but the crappy mobile OS relegates it to sitting unused on my desk 85% of the time.
Really the only thing I use it for is CAD work via Shapr3D.
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tim apple just added you to a list for even posting this. keeping saying these things online and tim will send his goons.
I really liked the new Final Cut camera, and the new additions to the Pencil.
What are some things that are “cut down” to you? Understanding that it’s not a desktop OS, and it’s not supposed to be?
That’s the issue. That might be fine for you, but for others we would like it to be. The limitation isn’t hardware, so let the users decide whether they want it to be more than a big iPhone.
Must be using a cut down keyboard without an enter key.
I did hit enter, but only once. Markdown needed 2 enters to not carry to the next return, at least in this app (thunder). I added a second return and it should display correctly now.
Fixed
Both 87 grade gasoline and typical red wine contains about 10% in ethanol. The limitation isn’t the ethanol. Let the users decide whether they want to consume it…? No! Just like the gasoline refineries did not make it with intention for human consumption, Apple designed the iPad hardware for a different use case than what you’d like.
Just like how the gas station attendant will tell you that you cannot consume gasoline at the gas station, Apple will tell you that you cannot run macOS at the Apple Store. If someone wishes to attempt it, there’s nothing preventing them from buying gasoline, taking it home, and attempt to consume it in their home. If someone wishes to attempt running macOS, there’s nothing preventing you from buying it, taking it home, and attempt to hack macOS onto it.
Gasoline isn’t the product for someone wanting to get drunk; just like how the iPad is not a product for you because it doesn’t fit your use case, and that’s fine. You can always wait for when they inevitably release the M4 variant of MacBook (or MacBook Air if weight is a concern), which will fit your use case better.
You just happen to be conflating hard limitations of a physical substance with arbitrary soft limitations. Of course you cant replace chips with sand despite both having a % of silicon. Those are entirely different things.
Wine and gasoline aren’t the same thing at all, they just happen to have one common element in their composition.
The iPad and a computer ARE the same thing. The label is something the brand puts on, it is not an hard limitation of the universe.
I personally don’t care if IKEA says that their bedroom furniture is for the bedroom. If I decide to use it as living room furniture I can and IKEA should not have a say, however they probably would if they could.
Brands like to have that weird control when they can, generally not in worries we’re doing something weird with stuff but for some strategic benefit, such as not cannibalising sales of something else.
If IKEA could bind pieces of furniture to types of room, you’d be more likely to have to buy more furniture over your lifetime. It would also maybe prevent them from having to comply with some regulation with the “our furniture is not furniture, is an… habitational support”! argument.
There is no “hard” limitation differentiating guzzling down a gallon of gasoline vs a gallon of red wine; nor is there any “soft” limitation of deploying your own OS.
Vast majority of people do not possess knowledge to extract consumable ethanol from gasoline, doesn’t mean it is impossible.
Vast majority of people do not possess knowledge to attempt to deploy their own OS onto an iPad, doesn’t mean it is impossible. Very talented individuals have been hacking iOS boot loader since original iPhone (no version, no suffix) days.
If one are so inclined, there’s plenty of places to learn, and expand one’s knowledge to attempt what most aren’t able to do. The alternative? Bitch whine complain and repeat until a multi-trillion company give a damn. I ain’t holding my breath.
Every year when June rolls around I wonder if they’ll do something significant with iPadOS at WWDC and it’s never the case.