Silk tougher than Kevlar thanks to genetically modified silkworms (cosmosmagazine.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 20:00
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Silk tougher than Kevlar thanks to genetically modified silkworms::Researchers in China have successfully genetically modified silkworms to produce spider silk. The silk fibres produced were 6 times tougher than the Kevlar used in bulletproof vests.

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AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml on 15 Oct 2023 20:27 next collapse

For anyone else that isn’t an engineer and also doesn’t know, toughness is a defined term in material science.

Toughness is the ability of a material to absorb energy and plastically deform without fracturing. One definition of material toughness is the amount of energy per unit volume that a material can absorb before rupturing. It is also defined as a material’s resistance to fracture when stressed.

Sounds like it’d work better than kevlar for armor.

I thought the article was being lazy by saying “tougher” but TIL that’s the scientific term.

mosiacmango@lemm.ee on 15 Oct 2023 21:31 next collapse

A lot of great terms in material science.

Brittle fracture is the point at which a material breaks instead of deforming. A material that deforms instead of breaking with stress, like bubble gum, has high “Ductility.” It doesnt retain its original shape, but it doesnt fracture.

Strength is the ability for something to withstand stress.

Metal generally has high hardness, good strength and at least some ductility. It will generally absorb and bend to stress, if it bends at all.

Something like Glass has low ductility, low strength and low hardness. It’s very solid up to the point of brittle fracture, but once it happens it shatters.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 21:48 collapse

Its arguable if that would actually be more effective.

Kevlar is already sufficient for small caliber. And even if the material itself is stronger, you still want it to be thick because the impact of that bullet is going to go somewhere… A few of the “I made a John Wick suit” youtubes have touched on this where the bullet is stopped but the dummy is REALLY dented in that spot.

And if we are talking higher caliber rounds? You pretty much need the metal/ceramic/whatever plate

So there might be small niche cases where this would be better for armor. But I doubt there are many situations where a “naturally made” product by genetically modified animals beats out a chemical process for cost and volume.

shasta@lemm.ee on 16 Oct 2023 00:20 next collapse

I’m thinking this silk may just be a new layer to armor, or just part of a new type of ____.

Fondots@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 01:36 next collapse

I don’t know the material science so I may be a bit off base, but but since kevlar is a synthetic fiber I’m assuming it’s made from petrochemicals and probably a source of microplastic pollution. So there’s probably an environmental aspect to consider. Even if it’s not actually more effective for it’s role, the fact that it’s tougher could be a useful marketing buzzword to get people to switch who wouldn’t care about the environmental impact and maybe even justify an inflated price.

Also while body armor is probably by far the best known use for kevlar it does have other uses like in composite materials in a similar fashion to things like fiberglass. Shaving a couple ounces off a part that might otherwise have been made of kevlar by switching to silk might be attractive to certain fields, maybe we’d see high end racing sailboats with silk sails or something (not that I think that’s a very important use, but for some reason I know some boats have kevlar sails so that came to mind)

Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 02:54 collapse

I think it’s more practical in terms of being used for layering with kevlar to reduce overall weight of a piece of body armor. While at the same time making it cheaper and more cost effective than traditional body armor materials as mentioned in the article.

So rather than this being used as an upgrade to kevlar (which with more testing it might be able too) it’s more like a side grade to reduce costs, as mentioned in the article silkworm silk is already used on a commercial and industrial level for other applications.

Granted it’ll probably be a good few years before the silk being made by these genetically modified worms is both made consistently and is more refined with further testing and then distributed. But still it’s something that material scientists will likely put to good use for reducing costs in lots of fields.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 15 Oct 2023 20:33 next collapse

It’s all fun and games until the world gets taken over by genetically engineered bulletproof worms.

snekerpimp@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 20:42 next collapse

Can you imagine walking into the woods and having a kevlar strand catch on your face? You end up garroting yourself trying to get untangled.

Chailles@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 15:19 collapse

And then getting caught by said worms and being cocooned as you desperately try to break free.

skhayfa@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 20:38 next collapse

One day a hungry staff decided to snack on one of those fat worm. Wonder what they taste like he said. This is how the Wonder Worm was born, knives or bullets nothing can go through his skins. An incredible tough superhero though eating and napping occupy most of his days.

Fixbeat@lemmy.ml on 15 Oct 2023 21:14 next collapse

Can’t wait to get silk woofers. 🔊

Whitebrow@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 21:18 next collapse

John wick bulletproof suits here we come.

Brickhead92@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 21:27 collapse

Yes, but you still need the gold coin to buy them

Steve@communick.news on 16 Oct 2023 00:21 collapse

Those are available

thefactremains@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 21:23 next collapse

I’m picturing police uniforms that resemble 90’s era club kids. The future looks bright folks.

Nudding@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 23:32 next collapse

I’m glad that we have unlimited Kevlar instead of unlimited food lmao

twotone@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 01:04 next collapse

Just eat the kevlar silkworms

NegativeInf@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 01:46 collapse

I mean, they do get boiled. Maybe it’s a tasty soup!

remotelove@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 2023 16:23 collapse
nephs@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 02:31 collapse

Chinese got the food and people logistics sorted, too.

Speed trains go bzzzz

Bonesince1997@lemmy.world on 15 Oct 2023 23:32 next collapse

Pimp suits that offer protection!

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee on 16 Oct 2023 04:50 collapse

A shirt like that wouldn’t really protect you even if the fabric itself indeed was bullet proof. That would just mean the bullet would push your shirt thru you too. The thing about plate armour is that the force from the impact is getting spread on a large area (and it’ll still hurt like hell)

DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 02:12 next collapse

Sooooooo, space elevator?

UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca on 16 Oct 2023 12:31 collapse

My thoughts exactly.

variants@possumpat.io on 16 Oct 2023 19:13 collapse

luxurious silky space elevator

Snapz@lemmy.world on 16 Oct 2023 15:45 collapse

“GET ME PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN!”