Reddit is a Dying Mall (www.staygrounded.online)
from JustinHanagan@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 01:23
https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/383085

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Art3sian@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 03:21 next collapse

I started a new job a few months ago and was on my first business trip with four colleagues recently. To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.

• Two dudes had heard of it but never used it.

• One dude said he uses it infrequently because it’s turned to shit.

• One dude said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.

• I said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.

Thats my anecdote. 100% of the people in that car didn’t use Reddit or now hated it. Probably 3 months ago that same car ride would have had three people loving Reddit and advocating it to the other two.

imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 04:10 next collapse

Despite your experience it’s alive and well. If reddit is a dying mall what is Lemmy? To scale it’s like an unmaintained Porta potty.

I hate reddit, but let’s not be ridiculous. It’s more than fine. Google has really gone to shit. When people search for things they put in site=reddit as a more reliable way to find real information.

Lev_Astov@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 05:36 next collapse

Malls didn’t die overnight, you know. It’s a downward spiral that takes many years when it starts.

ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works on 26 Aug 2023 09:22 collapse

Reddit is fine if you only look at user numbers.

If you consider things like overall satisfaction with the site and profitability though, they are in trouble. That’s why they are introducing that embarrassing crypto shit, they are desperate to somehow monetize the site.

30mag@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 15:13 collapse

To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.

You mean you asked “When does the Narwhal bacon?”, right?

Klear@sh.itjust.works on 26 Aug 2023 18:28 collapse

Do you have stairs in your house?

30mag@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 13:51 collapse

I think that was before my time

MeatsOfRage@lemmynsfw.com on 26 Aug 2023 02:44 next collapse

Lemmy, can we do better? I came here to hang out with a scrappy new community of people excited about cool shit. Instead it’s a bunch of people bitching about Reddit and X. C’mon let’s make this place fun and exciting.

WarmSoda@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 02:49 next collapse

Sir, this is a technology sub/comm. It must be filled with articles about social media businesses at all times, or the ancient ones will get hungry.

[deleted] on 26 Aug 2023 02:50 next collapse

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Gsus4@feddit.nl on 26 Aug 2023 03:00 next collapse

mander.xyz is awesome, if you select by local you only get science posts from communities that are visited and commented on. programming.dev has some good communities too, that probably need some good comments and content so people don’t give up on them.

You need to pick your home instance well to have a good head start, otherwise, you’ll spend every day blocking communities that take up space in you discovery feed when you select by “all”.

AgentCodyBanks@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 08:53 collapse

Don’t forget jerking off over Linux

baruchin@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 03:48 next collapse

I don’t think so. The migration to Lemmy was minuscule. It’s still huge, like very huge, but now that I use Lemmy more than Reddit, differences are obvious. Reddit is so massive that it has become a wrestling arena, Lemmy on the other side, is a more quiet place where civilized dialogue is above anything else. It’s a matter of tastes, but I feel better here.

HellAwaits@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 04:11 next collapse

Ah, Reddit, the virtual black hole where productivity goes to die and cat pictures go to thrive. It’s like a carnival of opinions where everyone’s a self-proclaimed expert, and the upvote button is the ultimate ego booster. You can find discussions ranging from quantum physics to the proper way to butter your toast – because, you know, those are equally vital life skills. And let’s not forget the endless scrolling that turns minutes into hours, leaving you wondering if you’ve just time-traveled into the future of wasted time. So, here’s to Reddit, where your to-do list goes to hibernate and your inner procrastinator gets a standing ovation! 🎉

z3n0x@feddit.de on 26 Aug 2023 05:19 collapse

GPT, is that you?

gullible@kbin.social on 26 Aug 2023 02:23 next collapse

These posts are exhaustingly far from the reality of the situation. Please don’t make the fediverse kick the puppy that is your optimistic opinion, OP.

Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.

[deleted] on 26 Aug 2023 03:05 collapse

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PatFussy@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 04:19 next collapse

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fernfrost@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 05:22 next collapse

To be fair Lemmy feels like a brand new mall of stores with empty shelves.

Kiosade@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 05:50 next collapse

A lot of empty stores, and then the big anchor stores are full of depressing doomer news articles

Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip on 26 Aug 2023 06:12 next collapse

Don’t look in the changing rooms, they are all full of furries

Kiosade@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 06:23 next collapse

Lol I forgot about those, I banned as many as I could.

InverseParallax@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 09:11 collapse

Don’t forget the hexbears:

“You’re all warmongering fascists except Putin!!!”

Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip on 26 Aug 2023 14:02 next collapse

I try not to label an entire instance, that’s like labeling an entire race, it’s not a healthy way to think about life.

TheBat@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 23:42 collapse

Yes because fediverse instance is something intrinsic like skin colour

Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip on 26 Aug 2023 23:54 collapse

Yes because all analogies necessarily represent a 1:1 ratio of severity or scope 👍

aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works on 27 Aug 2023 01:42 collapse

Parent comment was pointing out that you pick what instance you use and there are a lot to choose from, so they tend to be fairly homogenous in views (exception being the largest few)

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml on 26 Aug 2023 14:58 next collapse

That’s the store that sells shoe polish.

Thedogspaw@midwest.social on 27 Aug 2023 22:55 collapse

I think there band I haven’t seen any thing from them this weekend

InverseParallax@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 2023 05:58 next collapse

Don’t. Don’t give me hope.

InverseParallax@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 2023 08:08 collapse

So, they’re out in absolute force on lemm.ee, had 3 guys jump up to explain to me how the holodomor wasn’t a genocide and calling it one makes me a nazi because I don’t respect the jews.

So maybe they are only defeded on lemmy.world, only went to lemm.ee because of the downtime, might switch back.

ebits21@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 17:36 collapse

And memes

iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 06:42 next collapse

We trying boii

ddtfrog@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 06:43 next collapse

Reddit is gentrification as a website

Lemmy is restoration

[deleted] on 26 Aug 2023 08:57 next collapse

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infyrin@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 11:34 next collapse

And it’s like we have the inventory but nobody feels like stocking the shelves.

Maalus@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 11:57 next collapse

Lemmy doesn’t have the inventory. The userbase is tiny.

antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Aug 2023 14:33 next collapse

The userbase is significantly bigger than some fairly decent forums that I use or used to visit. The problem is rather the behaviour of the users (reddit started to favour more Instagram-like behaviour of scrolling and “liking” rather than normal forum-like dialogue, especially when you look at r/all, and I think we’re yet to grow out of it fully), and their relatively narrow range of interests (tech + political news) that leaves the other areas empty.

poppy@lemm.ee on 27 Aug 2023 00:21 collapse

The user base of Lemmy may be bigger, but we don’t all share the same interest(s) the way people grouped on a specific forum would which does hinder it a bit.

CoffeeBlood91@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 16:36 collapse

Small communities are the best communities

Maalus@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 18:37 collapse

Not when there is no content to read through.

silentknyght@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 13:20 collapse

Hard truth? Reddit conditioned me to NOT participate.

Nearly time I wanted to discuss something or ask something important to me, my posts were deleted by mods. The few times posts would stay was because they were meme shitposts of easily digestible image content: scroll and move along. Any actual discussion was verboten.

/r/mk mods were particularly awful. Fuck those guys.

infyrin@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 13:35 next collapse

I hear you there. The last full time involvement of participating on Reddit for me was like a couple months ago. I couldn’t complain about my job anymore, like everyone else that normally complains about their jobs, without getting downvoted to oblivion over it. Why? Because “dats what reddit does!” is pretty much the only logic that it can boil down to when it comes to Reddit - it’s because that’s their bastardized logic and they happily carry it out. Just so anybody they don’t like, is discouraged from participating.

Everyone turns everything into an unnecessary debate because people want to sound smarter than they really are.

HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Aug 2023 16:29 collapse

The thing you must understand about /r/mk is that it was largely sheperded by a man who was driven from the other major mechanical keyboard forums for being too much of a self-promoter. It’s possible the entire organization still has residual brittle-ego.

If you want proper keyboard discussion, do check Deskthority; the content is a lot richer than “here’s a photo of my board which is just a Taco Bell permutation of the current popular PCB/case/caps/switches”

silentknyght@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 16:33 collapse

I never knew that! Thanks for sharing!

Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 11:39 next collapse

And all the customers do nothing but scream about politics in every section.

glimse@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 12:31 collapse

Scream about the old mall*

JustinHanagan@kbin.social on 26 Aug 2023 13:12 collapse

The "mall" analogy works for Reddit because the point of it existing is to buy things there. Lemmy instances and communities only exist because people want to make space for conversation. If spaces are empty, I see that as a sign that someone, somewhere cares so much that they will happy build the space and wait for others to arrive.

MargotRobbie@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 04:34 next collapse

Small communities that are interoperable” is basically what Reddit is now.

Which is EXACTLY why federation fits the reddit style of forum like a glove, and why ultimately Lemmy is the path forward.

bluekieran@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 07:36 next collapse

I’m also on Mastodon, and saw posts saying “you can follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon!” - and sure enough you can, but by god you shouldn’t unless you want your feed to be full of comments without context.

NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 10:39 next collapse

Yeah it’s kinda weird that from mastodon it boosts all the comments instead of just the posts. You can tap into the posts to see the comments anyways, can’t you?

[deleted] on 26 Aug 2023 12:08 collapse

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atrielienz@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 04:22 collapse

This is the problem I’m having now and I don’t know how to go back.

JustinHanagan@kbin.social on 26 Aug 2023 13:13 collapse

💯

gigachad@feddit.de on 26 Aug 2023 05:59 next collapse

The article is 2 months old…

jhoward@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Aug 2023 07:15 next collapse

If Reddit is a mall for ideas, then Lemmy is more like an economy for ideas. Or many malls that are linked by an instant, intergalactic transport system. You know, I’d probably go back to malls if they had that.

CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works on 26 Aug 2023 07:39 collapse

Lemmy and kbin are like a street full of small Shops

Echo71Niner@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 09:08 next collapse

decentralized social media is the future.

RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 10:24 next collapse

At least the mall of Reddit is open 24/7.

That new mom and pop down the road seems to close at random times during the day. 😉

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 12:52 next collapse

Is lemmy.world really that bad?

Lemmy.ca went out, like, twice in the time I’ve used it.

Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 13:16 next collapse

As a .world user, it’s had some instability. Though in general I’d say it has okay uptime for a somewhat startup, volunteer enthusiast run content aggregation & discussion platform.

jelloeater85@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 15:31 collapse

You can always poke at status.lemmy.world to see how things are going 😁

applejacks@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 17:49 collapse

It is, loads for me about 70% of the time.

Very annoying to use.

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 26 Aug 2023 22:59 collapse

What’s making you stay on lemmy.world?

applejacks@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 22:36 collapse

already have an account, don’t want to go through the hassle of transferring it and recreating my subscriptions

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 27 Aug 2023 22:57 collapse

There are tools to easily migrate your account now. It’s pretty effortless.

uis@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 12:57 next collapse

You can use less overpopulated server

HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Aug 2023 16:27 collapse

The instance I use is ran by a bunch of Unix nerds, so I’d expect them to wear their uptime as a badge of honour. I suspect there’s probably a sweet spot for instance size, where it doesn’t hit the biggest scaling problems, but big enough to justify the ongoing effort, rather than obviously being a one-man shop that will vanish when his cheque to Digital Ocean bounces.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml on 26 Aug 2023 15:14 next collapse

It’s like Walmart. Open 24/7 but full of shit garbage and shit people.

grue@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 01:35 collapse

The Walmarts near me haven’t been open 24/7 since the pandemic. Definitely still full of garbage and shitty people, though.

Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 17:51 collapse

Ahhh, defending reddit because lemmy.world is the target of constant ddos attacks? Just go to a different instance. Lemmy’s not closed. A single entrance is just being blocked by assholes who support billionaire-owned platforms.

RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 18:16 next collapse

😉

Gestrid@lemmy.ca on 27 Aug 2023 00:25 collapse

It’s like a mall where the main entrance is closed for construction, but all the other entrances, including the entrances through different stores, are all open.

grue@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 01:36 collapse

It’s more like a mall where the main entrance is being blocked by dipshit reactionaries and trolls picketing in front of it.

Gestrid@lemmy.ca on 27 Aug 2023 18:14 collapse

I used the construction analogy because they are at least trying to fix the DDOS issues, or at least that’s what I’ve heard.

BrownianMotion@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 09:42 next collapse

This post is a total shitshow. I get the sentiment, and to some amount agree. But who the fuck wrote this drivel? its the worst shit I’ve read in seconds on the internet, and that usually takes hours.

Self Aggrandizing Self Posters… GFY

dignin@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 15:09 next collapse

Maybe an AI wrote it. 🥸

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 26 Aug 2023 18:49 next collapse

Weird, I thought it was a well written article.

JustinHanagan@kbin.social on 26 Aug 2023 23:34 collapse

Thanks lol

pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works on 26 Aug 2023 23:37 collapse

Look at fancy pants over here reading the actual article we’re talking about

triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml on 26 Aug 2023 10:02 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/5daec178-6885-498d-a653-2cfe62bb6348.png">

@JustinHanagan@kbin.social i think you might have the meaning of “Luddite” backwards thenib.com/im-a-luddite/

Shan@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 13:15 next collapse

It was better in this video essay

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30mag@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 15:10 next collapse

I think the thing that happened to digg is happening to reddit. It’s not surprising.

[deleted] on 26 Aug 2023 17:00 collapse

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elbarto777@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 18:40 collapse

Its* own grave.

pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works on 26 Aug 2023 23:34 collapse

*dugg its own grave.

Gestrid@lemmy.ca on 27 Aug 2023 00:24 collapse

What’s this about Dig Dug?

Buttons@programming.dev on 26 Aug 2023 17:22 next collapse

I’ve come up with the following rules for my own relationship with Reddit.

  1. I will avoid posting on Reddit.
  2. If I do post on Reddit, I must make a similar post on another forum, maybe Lemmy, maybe somewhere else.

Number 2 is important because it helps other small communities grow.

It’s not a problem if a lot of people post on one forum, but it is a problem if a lot of people post only on one forum. I wont allow myself to post only on Reddit.

That said, I haven’t posted on Reddit since June.

Arose8334@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 19:12 next collapse

Deleted my 10 year account a few months ago. Haven’t looked back. Once in a while my google searches will point me to some reddit thread, and I’ll check it out, but I have logged in for the last time.

FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 00:57 collapse

Same story here. Soon as they fucked around with Apollo I grabbed my towel and haven’t looked back. At this point my only interest is morbid curiosity about how bad it’ll get.

Corgana@startrek.website on 27 Aug 2023 00:08 collapse

My rule is “don’t post on Reddit unless it’s giving a reason to delete it”

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Aug 2023 18:45 next collapse

Why post an article from two months ago about a thing we’ve all accepted? I started reading and wondered what new drama occurred on that dying platform. Then it mentioned APIs and I checked the date. June. We’re almost in September. Eternal September.

Anestoh@lemm.ee on 26 Aug 2023 18:58 next collapse

I’m glad after all these years that my local mall is still the face of dead malls everywhere.

candyman337@sh.itjust.works on 26 Aug 2023 19:00 next collapse

I know it’s bad when the front page is majority popular posts from the last 10 years and nothing new

solstice@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 23:10 next collapse

It’s really unattractive to be so obsessed with your ex months after getting into a new relationship with Lemmy. Can we move on please?

GustavoM@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 23:27 collapse

I was about to make a joke related to ex’s… then I saw your post. Thank you for saving me a couple braincells from frying themselves out.

WhyDoesntThisThingWork@lemmy.world on 26 Aug 2023 23:59 next collapse

Another article that’s overly sympathetic to the mods. Reddit has been bad for years, not now just suddenly with the API changes when the bulk of you finally realized. The mods were horrible and HUGE part of the problem, to the point I think the mods (and other users) being so upset is hilarious. The API changes were a bad move, but they were just the latest in a years long string of nothing BUT bad moves. You guys are way late to the party and congratulating yourselves for being so punctual. Now the standard moving on from your ex joke and my comment is finished.

Corgana@startrek.website on 27 Aug 2023 00:07 next collapse

Let’s be honest, if it wasn’t for mods Reddit would be 4chan. I’m also not sure Lemmy solves your problem as it has basically the same system.

WhyDoesntThisThingWork@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 05:08 collapse

I don’t agree at all. Mods are good at self-aggrandizing…but I remember reddit before it was chock full o power mods and it wasn’t really like that. Also I’ve been a mod and there wasn’t that much objectionable content that needed to be removed. Seems like being a mod these days is setting up a bot, doing nothing, then complaining about how hard your “job” is. Oh, also making sure no posts that disagree with your personal politics are allowed to stay up.

[deleted] on 27 Aug 2023 00:16 collapse

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Bandit@reddthat.com on 27 Aug 2023 00:13 next collapse

I left reddit after they killed boost. best decision I’ve ever made.

Gnubyte@lemdit.com on 27 Aug 2023 01:10 next collapse

We need an article summary bot up in here man. I got walled off after a few paragraphs and it wanted my email to store in their database😅

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 27 Aug 2023 01:10 next collapse

Use my email:

Poop@fart.com

Gnubyte@lemdit.com on 27 Aug 2023 06:43 collapse

😂 thanks for the chuckle

wesley@yall.theatl.social on 27 Aug 2023 01:30 next collapse

Reading mode defeats that a lot of the time if your browser supports it

uranibaba@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 23:20 collapse

Can’t we just use the one we had on reddit? Just change the API calls from Reddit to Lemmy.

DankMemeMachine@lemmy.world on 27 Aug 2023 01:55 collapse

This shit is from June lol