Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds meet for the first time.
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 20:55
https://programming.dev/post/32698830

I had the thrill of a lifetime, hosting dinner for Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and David Cutler. Linus had never met Bill, and Dave had never met Linus. No major kernel decisions were made, but maybe next dinner 😉

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Tim_Bisley@piefed.social on 22 Jun 21:36 next collapse

That is wild they've never met.

victorz@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 22:26 collapse

I imagine Linus never seeing a point to such a meeting.

fernandofig@reddthat.com on 22 Jun 22:35 next collapse

Same. At this point I think he probably did it more to indulge those who wanted that to happen than actually wanting or caring about it.

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Jun 03:10 collapse

I’d have expected then meeting by chance at a conference at some point

MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 21:51 next collapse

That backdrop makes everyone look even grayer than they are

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 22 Jun 22:15 next collapse

The awful lighting on this photo makes Linus look older than Bill!

peteyestee@feddit.org on 22 Jun 22:27 next collapse

Haha I read that as gayer.

KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz on 22 Jun 23:59 collapse

Except for the guy on the left, who is clearly wearing a wig.

elucubra@sopuli.xyz on 23 Jun 08:47 collapse

Not just a wig, a cheapo Aliexpress wig. I had an employee who bought a quality hairpiece, and it was uncanny. He paid through the nose for it, but it was worth it for him, as he was quite bald in his 20’s.

treadful@lemmy.zip on 22 Jun 21:52 next collapse

I like to imagine they were just side-eyeing each other the whole time.

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 23:58 collapse

And every movement arises suspicion. One of them jumped when the other reached for his phone in his pocket

aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jun 21:52 next collapse

Holy shit the comments on that have got to be the sloppiest slop I have ever seen.

glitch1985@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 22:04 next collapse

Someone’s 3d printer making spaghetti in the background.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 22:13 next collapse

One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:

Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.

Key ideas: “Processes” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads

Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.

Talk about talking out of your ass.

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 22 Jun 22:24 next collapse

Talking out of your AIss*
Or just great satire, what’s even the difference between that and reality these days?

AGuyAcrossTheInternet@fedia.io on 22 Jun 22:36 collapse

I find comfort in satire because it's way less absurd.

CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe on 22 Jun 22:41 collapse

Thoughts and sprayers to satire!

EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 01:56 next collapse

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That HAS to be sarcasm … right?

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 04:20 next collapse
raltoid@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 06:35 collapse

Yes, it’s obvious sarcasm. But reading comprehension has seriously gone to shit in the last decade or so.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 10:05 collapse

You’ve not been briefed on the current state of the world if this is obvious sarcasm to you.

richardwonka@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 10:43 collapse

This.

zqps@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jun 04:38 next collapse

Just in case that putting processes in quotation marks as though they’re some alien concept (unlike AI agents I guess) wasn’t enough to convince you how deeply unserious this person is, they threw “azure-orchestrated kernel layers” in there.

I would pay actual money to hear Linus Torvalds react to that elevator pitch.

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 05:30 next collapse

Yes, this is bullshit.

While some sort of a redesign of part of Linux’s internals I could imagine.

In terms of kernel ABI stability Linux is often criticized even in comparison to BSDs.

And in general its insides are more messy and “naturally grown”, or so I’ve heard (OpenBSD is the only OS whose internals I’ve made myself familiar with sufficiently ; also put some effort for FreeBSD).

So my, eh, alternative opinion would be that something is brewing for Linux like what Digital Unix was for BSD Unix. A hybrid cleaned up kernel, maybe support for different ABIs (like what exists in FreeBSD for Linux and older versions of itself, except maybe more ambitious). Maybe even tackling a more open alternative to NT (itself alternative to VMS and David Cutler being the man who did that) while they’re at it. NT is not a bad thing. Even Windows is not a bad thing. Maybe Wine isn’t enough, or maybe it would be cool to have something possible to make compatible with many Windows device drivers.

At least I hope it’s Linux learning to do EEE and not the other way around.

Though with Bill Gates and Dave Cutler this really seems like a meeting of legends and nothing more. They’re cool people, but I don’t think they want to play global thermonuclear computing war at that age, unlike just global thermonuclear war IRL, this one is more attractive for younger people. Even if it’s about some project being born, I’d expect that to be “just for fun” for everyone involved, they deserve that after all.

nieceandtows@programming.dev on 23 Jun 06:11 next collapse

Add long as it has nothing to do with Linux, I don’t care

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 12:14 next collapse

They can call it GlossolaliaOS or something.

praechaox@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jun 18:33 collapse

That LinkedIn comment you quoted feels really ChatGPT to me. Mostly because it smashes reasonable ideas together into some BS and then summarizes it’s own response several times.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:01 collapse

It was posted by the CEO of some random AI company so the distinction is probably nil

victorz@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 22:26 next collapse

Linus looking healthier than ever, dog. Good for him. Live your best life, baby.

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org on 23 Jun 04:11 collapse

Lean, mean, diving machine.

victorz@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 04:54 collapse

Oh yeah, that’s one of his interests, isn’t it? He wrote some kind of software for that, if I remember correctly.

YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca on 22 Jun 22:43 next collapse

Dave Cutler, the legend of VMS and the NT kernel.

baggachipz@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jun 00:37 next collapse

Bill been eating well

EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 04:17 next collapse

Tiny head though

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 10:33 collapse

All that profitable ‘philanthropism’

asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev on 23 Jun 06:00 next collapse

I didn’t even recognize them until I read the title.

atlien51@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 10:10 next collapse

Holy shit bill gates be looking rough

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 10:14 collapse

I doubt he can still hurdle chairs.

atlien51@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 12:02 collapse

Sauce? Never heard of this

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 12:23 collapse

I assume you are being facetious, but for anyone who is part of today’s 10,000

Source

BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 10:24 next collapse

Hide your MBR Linus!

nope@jlai.lu on 23 Jun 10:26 next collapse

This happened on 21 June 2025

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jun 10:36 collapse

…that’s two days ago?

csolisr@hub.azkware.net on 24 Jun 21:54 collapse

That must have taken some diplomacy, but it would have been even more impressive to have convinced Stallman to come too