Real Talk: Why Is Datadog So Expensive? (thenewstack.io)
from dominiquec@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 10:47
https://lemmy.world/post/9297498

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baggins@lemmy.ca on 08 Dec 2023 11:06 next collapse

What’s data dog?

aapepinspace@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Dec 2023 11:13 next collapse

A monitoring service for IT systems. It uses an agent that is installed on servers or as a container, that sends metrics and/or logs to Datadog’s platform. You can then set up dashboards, notifications and alerting in their webgui.

asbestos@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 11:22 next collapse

nothing much, you?

jdeath@lemm.ee on 08 Dec 2023 22:34 collapse

Gotcha!

baggins@lemmy.ca on 08 Dec 2023 23:03 collapse

Setting up the joke: 3 up doots

Delivering the punchline: 27 up doots

🥲

asbestos@lemmy.world on 09 Dec 2023 00:49 collapse

I gave an up doot I’m sorry :(

grayman@lemmy.world on 09 Dec 2023 00:44 collapse

The latest shit to drain your budget since splunk jacked up their price again.

ghostface@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 11:44 next collapse

Because data is valuable

DefiantBidet@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 12:05 next collapse

Bc when entire infra teams rely on your service to operate, and orgs depend on infra, you can charge for that service bc orgs have to pay it, or degrade to cheaper, less robust alternatives - which do exist

Best in class cost $$$

linearchaos@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 13:06 next collapse

They’re pretty good, they’re better, but they’re not that much better than Splunk or Elasticsearch (especially the value with Elasticsearch community) I admit elasticsearch gets pricey if you go corporate.

But Splunk, they’re like 80% of the product at 20% of the price

squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world on 10 Dec 2023 02:10 collapse

New Relic is better. Datadog sucks by comparison.

T4UTV1S@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 12:22 next collapse

I just read the article, it’s actually pretty interesting.

The TL;DR is that there is so much observable data out there (exponentially more than expected), that Datadog, which isn’t optimized to deal with that, caused their prices to need to hike.

There are two options listed as alternatives:

  1. Self host but it might not be cheaper
  2. Buy into a company that is from the ground up focusing on dealing with that massive amount of data.
DefiantBidet@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 12:41 next collapse

its an incredibly powerful tool. I’ve seen its usage bloom from simple box health to actually determining cost per month of services. basically going from a “hows our server looking?” to a “we need this tool to achieve our margins”

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 09 Dec 2023 21:05 collapse

You mean you just read this advertisement?

Then made a comment that sure looks like a 2nd advertisement for it?

I hear Splunk is nice. I don’t see them having to place thinly veiled advertisements on social media.

T4UTV1S@lemmy.world on 09 Dec 2023 21:38 collapse

All due respect (which is none), I don’t care what you think. Plus, this isn’t even an ad for Splunk, which you’d know if you actually read the article.

Edit: Also, it actually straight up says that the article writer works for a competitor. Braindead comment.

linearchaos@lemmy.world on 08 Dec 2023 13:00 next collapse

I always figured it was because they have to pay the 27 reps that call and email me monthly begging to set up a meeting because I looked up their service once several years ago and asked for pricing.

There’s so much more expensive than the alternatives I really had no choice.

Oh, you went with Splunk, I see. Well, can I get a meeting with you to explain why we’re so much better and you would be much happier with us.

No, I’m not going to reinitiate this working completed project and pay three times more for my data munging.

DoomBot5@lemmy.world on 10 Dec 2023 07:01 collapse

To be fair, am currently using both tools. DD is so much nicer to use than splunk.

knobbysideup@lemm.ee on 08 Dec 2023 13:08 next collapse

Naemon + Graylog work for us.

[deleted] on 08 Dec 2023 13:14 next collapse

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social on 08 Dec 2023 15:34 next collapse

I mean, have you seen the price of corgis lately?

pl_woah@lemmy.ml on 08 Dec 2023 18:41 next collapse

Brand recognition and developer evangelism probably.

Their competitors are good enough that it’s not worth it unless your org gets serious ™️ about performance or cost savings.

If you’ve never used any kind of APM or SIEM or uptime monitoring, you’ve got a set of competitors to use first. Crawl before you can walk

Your bank account will thank you.

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 09 Dec 2023 20:58 collapse

I guess it’s pretty cheap to run stealth ads like this on lemmy, since you only need like 20 up votes to get on everyone’s front page.

macgyver@federation.red on 10 Dec 2023 03:51 collapse

Have already been contacted to do as much on my instance

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de on 10 Dec 2023 05:15 collapse

You’d think they’d at least try to make it not look like an ad, at least.