Google and Brave The Only Search Engines Able To Index Reddit (www.webpronews.com)
from moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 07:09
https://feddit.nl/post/18551346

at least we have competitions

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callmepk@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 07:32 next collapse

Kagi can still search Reddit content tho (blocked part of url because I have Kagi rewrite url to redirect to my private Redlib instance)

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/55227fba-c81e-4f36-9ba8-43b373514e66.jpeg">

I think this is because they use some sources from Google and Brave?

moe90@feddit.nl on 25 Jul 2024 07:33 next collapse

not everyone want to pay though

callmepk@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 07:36 next collapse

Yeah, I know, Reddit is just being asshole for another time as we all know

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Jul 2024 09:38 collapse
30p87@feddit.org on 25 Jul 2024 07:34 next collapse

And I’m doing the opposite over here lol<img alt="1000028263" src="https://feddit.org/pictrs/image/029ccd5a-08a2-41e5-b9b6-28bf6e3dfe9f.jpeg">

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 09:45 collapse

Man reddit has a treasure trove of answers to shit though, pinterest though that is a must.

GustavoFring@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 11:27 collapse

I’m convinced that typo is on purpose.

null@slrpnk.net on 25 Jul 2024 13:41 collapse

What typo?

ad_on_is@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 08:26 next collapse

I have the assumption that kagi’s results from reddit have gotten sparse lately. but maybe it’s just me

retro@infosec.pub on 25 Jul 2024 20:57 collapse

I setup a Lens so that if my query contains a single letter ‘r’', only Reddit results will be returned.

ad_on_is@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 21:25 collapse

I still append reddit to my query. it shows a handful of reddit links at the top. the rest are just random sites.

One time, I even came across a SEO optimized site that had the word “reddit” scattered all over with nothing but nonsense.

RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jul 2024 22:11 collapse

Yeah, always site:reddit.com if I need it, SEO spam has gotten so trashy.

adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev on 25 Jul 2024 08:58 collapse

blocked part of url because I have Kagi rewrite url to redirect to my private Redlib instance

I had no idea this was a thing. Thats going straight on my self-host todo list.

themurphy@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 08:12 next collapse

Well, it only gives a bigger reason for other search engines to index the competition.

msage@programming.dev on 25 Jul 2024 09:52 next collapse

Fine by me - I don’t use or like any of them, AND they will make sure I won’t see them elsewhere? Jackpot

z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 10:41 next collapse

Just use ddg bangs if you use Duckduckgo and you can search reddit directly.

!reddit search term

It still picks up latest posts related to reddit, it just searches reddit directly instead of searching Bing’s results. It’s that simple.

rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jul 2024 11:15 next collapse

yes. Also, !r is reddit also.

z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 11:47 collapse

Even better. Thanks, been a while since I’ve looked up specific ddg bangs.

fpslem@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 18:42 next collapse

This has historically worked because Bing (from which DDG draws results) previously indexed Reddit. What indications do we have that it will work after this change? As I read the articles, I thought it wouldn’t work going forward.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jul 2024 18:58 collapse

Bangs don’t actually search w/ Duckduckgo, they just redirect your search to whatever search provided is configured for that bang. In this case, it just goes to reddit.com and uses its search function. They’re really handy when you definitely want results from a given service and don’t want to type out “site:service.com” or whatever.

superkret@feddit.org on 25 Jul 2024 19:01 next collapse

it just goes to reddit.com and uses its search function.

oh god.

z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml on 26 Jul 2024 00:22 collapse

It gets crazy when you use a redirection extension like libredirect. If you tell libredirect to redirect to a redlib instance, the !r or !reddit bang will try to send your query directly to reddit, and then instead you’re presented with the search results on a no JavaScript frontend. This is what I do, a lot less clutter than reddit’s site.

fpslem@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 20:10 collapse

Gotcha, thanks!

[deleted] on 25 Jul 2024 20:10 collapse

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point5a@programming.dev on 25 Jul 2024 10:42 next collapse

Is google still a thing!?

ramble81@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 12:19 next collapse

You just sound stuck up when you say that. Like “is windows still a thing? I didn’t know because I use Linux. Don’t you?”

Of course Google is still a thing, by far it’s still the largest search engine in use on the planet, so most people won’t notice it. If anything, this hurts all the not-Google users. Can you imagine if different sites started signing exclusivity deals with different search engines?

point5a@programming.dev on 25 Jul 2024 14:39 collapse

The last time I used Google, I searched for timer app, the result was blue light filter! No timer in the first 6 pages! The result was always irrelevant.

null@slrpnk.net on 25 Jul 2024 13:42 next collapse

Is one of the biggest companies on the planet still a thing!?

🤔

point5a@programming.dev on 25 Jul 2024 14:37 collapse

I prefer quality over quantity!

null@slrpnk.net on 25 Jul 2024 15:57 collapse

Neat. Not really relevant though.

sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz on 25 Jul 2024 15:32 next collapse

…why is this the first comment on an 8 month old account? Weird

point5a@programming.dev on 25 Jul 2024 15:59 collapse

Time flies! It was like yesterday! 😅

boatsnhos931@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 15:48 collapse

It’s your mom’s default search engine so I use it from time to time

ApexHunter@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 13:08 next collapse

This isn’t going to hurt Google’s antitrust cases at all… Noooo sir.

moe90@feddit.nl on 25 Jul 2024 13:52 collapse

the thing is this is not monopoly and it much more like duopoly between Google and brave search. So, it is hard.

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 25 Jul 2024 13:56 collapse

Brave search…? You’re joking right…?

moe90@feddit.nl on 25 Jul 2024 13:59 collapse

it is bearable and no captcha for VPN users (unlike google search)

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 25 Jul 2024 14:44 collapse

But it’s no where near the #2 spot. Brave search is incredibly niche.

pdxfed@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 14:49 collapse

Why is Brave allowed to index reddit and other engines aren’t? Just switched to them and am not interested in reddit search results.

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 25 Jul 2024 14:58 collapse

OH, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying search itself is a duopoly between Google and Brave Search.

You’re saying searching Reddit is a duopoly between Google and Brave Search.

That’s my bad… but yeah, the article is just wrong anyways, Kagi also has access still (presumably through their deal with Google to use Google’s search results as part of their result set). I wonder if Brave has a similar deal … or their crawlers just haven’t been blocked yet … or they paid off Reddit.

EDIT: Also, I will say because Brave search has such a small market share that’s probably not going to help Google’s case much.

pdxfed@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 17:45 next collapse

Yeah I wasnt trying to make any point, just learn more about brave’s access that given their small scale compared to some other browsers seems out of place next to Google

fpslem@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 18:41 collapse

Also, I will say because Brave search has such a small market share that’s probably not going to help Google’s case much.

I’d venture a guess that Brave is still allowed to search Reddit just as a legal fig leaf for Google’s arguments with regulators.

FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today on 25 Jul 2024 18:02 next collapse

TBF thats like 7/8ths of search engines used by most consumers.

RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jul 2024 22:08 collapse

TBF that’s a textbook monopoly.

FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today on 25 Jul 2024 22:28 collapse

Yeah absolutely, tear that company to a million pieces, but it would practically be a shorter list of common search engines that it can’t be used on. Between Google, Brave, and Bing most other search engines are just built upon those three.

EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 19:33 next collapse

Brave is chromium dressed nicely.

No competition here.

AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 21:30 next collapse

It’s a good day to be a metasearch engine user. No need to worry right now about one company essentially having a monopoly on indexing a certain site.

hahattpro@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 17:54 collapse

I though it is only Google, now Brave join ? What about Bing ? Do they chip in soon ?