bassomitron@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 04:13
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I feel like these will be useless in all but limited circumstances. A modern battlefield in urban centers will be rife with small and large rubble, making these things unreliable in real world practice when you factor its ability to balance navigating obstacles and dealing with recoil. How does it reload? How long does its battery last? What happens when its weapon jams? Additionally, tricking current AI is fairly simple when you have the resources of a modern military.
Anyway, it’s interesting to experiment with, but I just don’t think the technology is quite there yet. I think it’d probably be more effective to create self-destructing bomber robot dogs than gun toting ones with our current tech.
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 May 2024 04:28
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I’m less concerned about how these are deployed against soldiers as I am about how they’re being provided to police departments as they are in the US.
ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 04:31
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This is exactly my concern. These little bullet dogs patrolling the street with someone able to take control of the trigger and blame it on a malfunction
variants@possumpat.io
on 29 May 2024 04:38
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Reminds me of the move code 8 part 2
Shurimal@kbin.social
on 29 May 2024 07:35
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Child holding a teddybear.
ED-209: "Put down your weapon! You have 40 seconds to comply!"
“Tell him, ironically, he has 10 seconds to grow a pair.”
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 21:54
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Ding ding ding. Rubble-covered battlefields aren’t the end-goal here. The end goal is urban warfare, precision strikes, and area denial by police. Cops can post these on patrol outside of a billionaire’s house. Charging isn’t an issue, because you can simply have them automatically return to base for charging, and patrol in automatically rotating shifts.
Or have them near protests, and “accidentally” start killing people. When people get upset, cops will go “oops it was a malfunction. Too bad you can’t blame us for that. Because of, ya know, the malfunction. It totally malfunctioned. 100% wasn’t programmed to kill on sight, to break up the protest quickly. Nope, definitely a malfunction.”
There’s a use case for a crawling camera. They’re pretty good at going over rubble if they aren’t trying to shoot at the same time. For self destructing drones flying ones are easier and cheaper to manufacture.
Agent641@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 05:58
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Lets see it clear a jam tho.
mydude@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 07:43
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The wet dream of the 1% is coming true; Their own personal army with no moral compass.
AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 13:22
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The 1% of China? I mean, I’m sure they have an elite, but the 1% thing is usually pointed out as a sore spot for capitalism.
AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 13:53
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China is state capitalism anyway. There isn’t much Communist about them. The “party” is their 1% permanent ruling class.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 May 2024 18:07
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The “party” is their 1% permanent ruling class.
Which is as communist as is realistically achievable. Percentage may wary but not by a lot.
AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 18:20
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Communism is incompatible with private property or classes which is why no matter how many states write “communism” on the tin, what they actually put in it is just fascist enforced state capitalism.
China is not more communist or even socialist than the USA. A strong ruling class loves fascism and hates socialism. They are actively hostile to communism.
Well I hope their urban training is still that bad if we ever have to fight them. And the robot dogs seem like a good idea until one of them gets introduced to OPFORs size 12 boot.
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I feel like these will be useless in all but limited circumstances. A modern battlefield in urban centers will be rife with small and large rubble, making these things unreliable in real world practice when you factor its ability to balance navigating obstacles and dealing with recoil. How does it reload? How long does its battery last? What happens when its weapon jams? Additionally, tricking current AI is fairly simple when you have the resources of a modern military.
Anyway, it’s interesting to experiment with, but I just don’t think the technology is quite there yet. I think it’d probably be more effective to create self-destructing bomber robot dogs than gun toting ones with our current tech.
I’m less concerned about how these are deployed against soldiers as I am about how they’re being provided to police departments as they are in the US.
This is exactly my concern. These little bullet dogs patrolling the street with someone able to take control of the trigger and blame it on a malfunction
Reminds me of the move code 8 part 2
Child holding a teddybear.
ED-209: "Put down your weapon! You have 40 seconds to comply!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFvqDaFpXeM
Oh, who am I kidding, human cops do exactly the same shit...
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“Tell him, ironically, he has 10 seconds to grow a pair.”
Ding ding ding. Rubble-covered battlefields aren’t the end-goal here. The end goal is urban warfare, precision strikes, and area denial by police. Cops can post these on patrol outside of a billionaire’s house. Charging isn’t an issue, because you can simply have them automatically return to base for charging, and patrol in automatically rotating shifts.
Or have them near protests, and “accidentally” start killing people. When people get upset, cops will go “oops it was a malfunction. Too bad you can’t blame us for that. Because of, ya know, the malfunction. It totally malfunctioned. 100% wasn’t programmed to kill on sight, to break up the protest quickly. Nope, definitely a malfunction.”
You can’t stop a mob with live fire. Patrolling though, yeah.
There’s a use case for a crawling camera. They’re pretty good at going over rubble if they aren’t trying to shoot at the same time. For self destructing drones flying ones are easier and cheaper to manufacture.
Lets see it clear a jam tho.
The wet dream of the 1% is coming true; Their own personal army with no moral compass.
The 1% of China? I mean, I’m sure they have an elite, but the 1% thing is usually pointed out as a sore spot for capitalism.
China is state capitalism anyway. There isn’t much Communist about them. The “party” is their 1% permanent ruling class.
Which is as communist as is realistically achievable. Percentage may wary but not by a lot.
Communism is incompatible with private property or classes which is why no matter how many states write “communism” on the tin, what they actually put in it is just fascist enforced state capitalism.
China is not more communist or even socialist than the USA. A strong ruling class loves fascism and hates socialism. They are actively hostile to communism.
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Here’s a list of the biggest commies in China… \s
More like the .1% of the world, but also yes.
On the bright side, it's Chinese hard/software, so an ED-209 outcome is very probable, and highly anticipated.
it does not look like a derivative at all
Both strongly resemble Boston Dynamics’s “Spot” robo-canine.
I’m betting that’s exactly what they are, with some glued-on plastic detailing.
How dare you! China doesn't copy, it just takes others' ideas and improve them! sometimes.
Horizon is a WARNING, not a SUGGESTION!
Pre-emptive Zero Dawn, do it now!
China seems to disagree.
Well I hope their urban training is still that bad if we ever have to fight them. And the robot dogs seem like a good idea until one of them gets introduced to OPFORs size 12 boot.