they wanted him back but he had the condition that they made an apology letter and cleared him of any wrongdoing. that's when they changed their minds. if this is about not apologizing to save the company they do seem incompetent.

That’s kind of fucked up dang.

Not just the abuse but the disconnection afterwards is fucked. And when there is smoke like this and that sort of disconnect there is bound to be other shit lurking in the background.

Ah yes “themarysue.com”, where I get all my news from…

We aren’t downvoting you because we assume that didn’t happen. We are downvoting you because there is zero evidence that that is why he was fired.

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Take Sam’s dick out of your mouth and maybe you can find the source

Not sure why so many people go around spouting random things as facts.

People love that endorphin rush that comes from being part of a Two Minutes Hate on a "deserving" subject.

Is it usual that all the family and even therapists side against alleged victim?

On the family conspiring against a single member part, you might want to look up Harrison Post or watch the “Britney vs Spears” documentary (though that’s a bit different and doesn’t have to do with rape, Britney was the rich person and her family conspired against her to take over her wealth, had a psychiatrist, James Spar, fabricate a report against her that subsequently just miraculously disappeared from the court files and even picked a lawyer for her who would side with them).

Going back to this story, the “shht, let’s not ruin the future of our child prodigy, so even if Sam did something bad to you you will keep your mouth shut” is not that rare among families. Conspiracies by families to cover up rape done by one of them do happen:

• bbc.com/…/uk-england-nottinghamshire-17474977
• www.rte.ie/news/…/1409829-abuse-sentencing/
• jamaica-gleaner.com/…/family-members-force-woman-…
• news24.com/…/women-speak-out-on-how-families-cove…

Another very important point that makes Annie Altman’s story highly believable is that since 2020 she’s been resorting to sex work (and also begged on Instagram one day) just to survive, while Sam has a net worth of over half a billion. As I said in another comment, if one of your siblings needs to do sex work to survive while you have hundreds of millions of $s at your disposal, then no matter whether the accusations are true or not, you’re the bad person and there’s something fundamentally evil about you. Going back to the sex work part, here’s what the statistics say (translated from German: rheinmaasklinikum.de/…/Hintergrundinformationen_z… ):

In Hamburg, 98% of sex-workers examined were diagnosed with at least one traumatic event. 83% had already experienced trauma in childhood (family violence 70%, physical abuse 65%, sexual abuse 48%). Trauma experienced during prostitution was found in 83% (physical attack 61%, rape 61%, threat with a weapon 52%). Here, 53% achieved an illness score in the sense of post-traumatic stress disorder. Abuse and dependence on illegal drugs at 74%. Similar alarming findings can be found in international comparative studies.

And also (…biomedcentral.com/…/s12905-017-0491-y ):

Intimate partner violence was experienced by 21.2% of sex workers, and 23.4% reported client physical or sexual violence. The majority of sex workers (71.2%) reported childhood (i.e., when age <18 years) physical or sexual abuse.

Yes it is unfortunately common. The family members align in their identification of the scapegoat and their cohesion influences the involved therapists who do not realize the larger picture. The victims are themselves both traumatized and also inculcated family members so it is fairly common that the scapegoats do not realize how fucked up things are until they’re older. Incest families are often highly invested in a family ideal that both hides the ugliness and also enables it to flourish (because our golden boy would never do anything like that!). When the scapegoat finally figures it out and tries to tell the truth they are shut down by the defenders of the family ideal. It is easier to shun the truth teller than to accept that the family system is rotten and work to reform it. Also those who are privileged within the family frequently see nothing to gain by admitting wrongdoing and so don’t. It is as it is with any sort of privilege at the societal level. Those who have it tend not to see it and then resist giving it up even when the weight of evidence that harm is being done is large.

You're getting downvoted for slinging homophobic slurs and insults at people who are questioning your unproven allegations.

You’re being downvoted for being manic, atually. It’s cute how you think you matter that much lmao. Ya dont.

what in particular shows that Gary Marcus is uniformed? I dislike him because he’s dogmatic and petty but I haven’t seen a specific thing he’s been wrong about, but I’d love examples.

You can check many of the Sam dick riding contests in the comments in any Sam Altman related thread and how most are advancing the classic “she’s just a gold digger who suddenly remembers he raped her only after he got rich” or “she looks unhinged, story likely made up” theses that are usually used to protect rapists and discredit rape victims, while trying to bury the rape story with massive downvotes every single time.

Yeah the Twitter nonsense has been such an absolute shitshow that it’s easy to forget he had in fact turned for the worse prior to it. I didn’t flag it at the time, consciously, but The Boring Company was another early signal. Rich guy is stuck in traffic, says: “screw this I’m digging tunnels, bitches!” And then they made and sold branded flamethrowers to raise seed money…? I mean WTF kind of college dorm antics are these?

He used to be so much more grounded, back in the days of talking about our carbon emissions as the dumbest experiment of all time, and how he started SpaceX to make our species interplanetary and better able to survive major disasters. I was all for that Elon. Then he had a kid with a musician and mashed his ass cheek into a keyboard to come up with a name. I think he’s deeply personally broken. I don’t know what hopes he had for his marriage and family or how badly that situation is fucked for him post-divorce but it seems like it could be pretty bad and fueling a lot of pain and malice not to mention likely substance abuse.

They innovated first. GM and BMW and so on put out electric cars in the 90’s they just didn’t market them well and the battery tech wasn’t as good then meaning range was limited. Not to mention the lack of infrastructure for charging which I will admit that Tesla (not Elon) did push for and develop.

The Roadster was an ice breaker vehicle and I will fully admit that. Musk was involved but he wasn’t the one who made those fears feats of battery engineering possible. He really does take credit for a lot of stuff just because he happened to be in the vicinity. I can understand being a Tesla fan. I can’t really understand being an Elon Musk fan.

When you point out that figure, it’s also important to provide more context and take into account the fact that Satya Nadella promised to hire every single OpenAI employee and not just Sam Altman, and the high likelihood that the board will not resign. It’s not hard to imagine that for many, going to Microsoft and working in a for-profit environment with potentially higher bonuses (as they’d be more encouraged to seek much higher profits than under OpenAI) is a significant career upgrade (good for them, but the point here is to not let the headlines make you think that there’s some warm & fuzzy “we love Sam” moment happening).

The OpenAI salaries are pretty low (archive.ph/jPbYR ) compared to what Microsoft offers (archive.ph/nonSV ), and as I said all of that doesn’t include the potential bonuses that would result from those teams aggressively pursuing profit at Microsoft.

“Least said, soonest mended,” as the saying goes: if you want the cleanest break possible, say as little as possible. It’s probably also why the board fired him via a virtual meeting after close of business on a Friday.

By stark contrast, both Altman and Brockman were on Twitter almost immediately thereafter, joined shortly by armies of supporters, making absolutely sure that everything happening over the weekend was as public as possible, almost play by play, and was also openly joined in the constant public commentary by the CEO of Microsoft, who became Altman’s employer less than 48 hours later.

Note that I’m not saying it’s wrong. But in regard to point #3 made above by @slaacaa@lemmy.world it all seems almost planned, especially when you throw in this tidbit from The Guardian:

Sam Altman ‘was working on new venture’ before sacking from OpenAI

Sam Altman, the recently sacked boss of OpenAI, the company behind the ChatGPT bot, was telling investors he planned to launch a new company before his shock departure, it was claimed.

No other info, but IF it’s true AND Altman was openly talking about planning a competitive service, then it does lend credence to the thought that Altman wanted to go, and to leave in such a way that he got to take whoever he wanted with him, because that is the kind of shit that gets you fired from your own board.