Apple doesn't need to ban Sunbird or Beeper; they're already on borrowed time (www.androidauthority.com)
from AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2023 17:11
https://programming.dev/post/6015535

No need to ban what will, by default, become an unsustainable business model.

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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 17 Nov 2023 17:35 next collapse

Beeper’s business model is actually based on people wanting all their messaging services in one app so they’re not always separated.

I don’t like Beeper personally, but this kind of misunderstands what Beeper intends to do, which is bigger and more thoughtful than what Sunbird is doing, which is just iMessage.

jjnjjlr@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2023 18:29 next collapse

Sunbird is more than iMessage isn’t it? I had the beta installed for a little bit and it was messenger, sms, iMessage, and a few others that haven’t used.

KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca on 17 Nov 2023 19:17 collapse

I prefer Beeper because I don’t need multiple other chat apps installed and grabbing my data.

Yes, you have to trust Beeper.

I personally found it when I was forced to use WhatsApp with my landlord, and refuse to install any meta apps on my phone. I’ve since linked Telegram and Discord.

Not to mention many of those apps require permissions to work, but I can easily deny them on Beeper and Beeper doesn’t care.

[deleted] on 17 Nov 2023 19:44 collapse

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KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca on 17 Nov 2023 20:12 collapse

I’d rather they have my messages vs WhatsApp, Discord, Telegram, etc. all having individual access to my photos, location, all of my phone sensor data, etc.

Like I said, many apps refuse to work properly if you deny them permissions, but Beeper doesn’t.

[deleted] on 17 Nov 2023 21:10 next collapse

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KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca on 17 Nov 2023 22:17 collapse

It’s just easier to use a single app. I don’t use any of the services I mention to send any private info. Like I said in a different reply, Telegram is for unraid notifications, WhatsApp is for my landlord to yell at me, and Discord is public servers.

All already public info or basic alerts. I’d prefer just not having a bunch of apps installed.

[deleted] on 17 Nov 2023 22:43 collapse

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PlasticExistence@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 22:08 collapse

I appreciate you sharing this information. I didn’t know about Shelter

interceder270@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2023 22:06 collapse

Hope they don’t get pwned.

KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca on 17 Nov 2023 22:14 collapse

I don’t use any of the services I mentioned to send any private or personal info. They could all be public tweets for all I care. I care more about my location data and other data these individual apps would get access to, over the messages I send through them.

Like Telegram is used strictly for unraid notifications, WhatsApp with my landlord, and Discord is public servers.

Nothing private at all.

Bye@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 14:35 next collapse

Beeper sounds cool, if I still had android I would use it.

If only my fucking iPhone would let me use real Firefox and not a safari skin.

Blisterexe@lemmy.zip on 18 Nov 2023 15:26 collapse

I mean, it’s still useful even if you have an apple device, it still let’s you use 10+ messaging apps in one place

mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2023 15:04 collapse

Once RCS support rolls out on the iPhone, any cross-platform chat will have all the same advantages and features as iMessage, including read receipts, typing indicators, and high-res image sharing. Why bother jumping through loopholes when you can get the same experience using the native chat app?

We will see if RCS brings the same features of iMessage (it’s not going to be 1:1) and without E2EE I’ll continue to talk to my Android friends on another platform anyway.