Data centers got a huge tax break to create WA jobs. Is it paying off? (www.seattletimes.com)
from MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world on 04 Aug 2024 22:23
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In 2010, as the country still reeled from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, tech companies, real estate developers and rural lobbyists went to the state Capitol in Olympia to press for a tax break for data centers.

Turning it down, supporters argued, would mean rejecting high-paying, long-term and environmentally friendly jobs in distressed parts of rural Washington. Owners of data centers — gargantuan facilities filled with computer servers that power the internet — were scouting Washington and other states for new homes.

“In the end,” then-state Sen. Rodney Tom, D-Medina, who advocated for the tax break, told his Senate colleagues, “we get the clean jobs that all the states are competing with, as far as the jobs it takes to run these things long term.”

State lawmakers nearly unanimously passed the special exemption and have kept the benefits flowing to the industry ever since. But the tax break has strayed from its original promises, and the state failed to fully scrutinize whether the sacrifices were worth it, a deep examination of legislative archives, public tax disclosures and utility data by The Seattle Times and ProPublica revealed.

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Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 04 Aug 2024 22:46 next collapse

Because trickle down economics has been shown to work, right?

sunzu@kbin.run on 04 Aug 2024 23:32 next collapse

Corporate welfare do be like that

tal@lemmy.today on 05 Aug 2024 00:29 next collapse

The average annual cost to the state at that time was projected to be $53.3 million between 2015 and 2019.

That doesn’t sound too earth-shattering.

More than 65% of the savings since 2018 have gone to Redmond-based Microsoft, a company with reported net earnings of $72.4 billion last year. 

The company said in an emailed statement that the data center tax break from which it benefits “aligns with the intentions of lawmakers.”

I don’t know if the policy is actually a good idea, but I would imagine that Washington probably does benefit pretty substantially from having Microsoft around. I don’t think that Microsoft has to have datacenters in-state, but meh.

And speaking purely as someone in California who doesn’t particularly want to pay California datacenter rates, but likes datacenter service and access to services that make use of datacenters, if Washington wants to subsidize datacenters to try and get West Coast business, I’m not complaining.

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Northern California has a reliable and extensive electrical grid. In the Santa Clara/San Jose data center cluster, power is provided by both Pacific Gas & Electric and Silicon Valley Power. These companies encourage using renewable power such as solar, wind, and the more exotic biomass solutions. However, these “green” power sources can often increase a data center’s total cost of ownership. The average power cost throughout Northern California is extremely high. These high costs often factor into the decisions for Northern California-based companies to co-locate in Portland, OR or Seattle, WA, where the typical power cost for data center users is approximately two times less.

Drusas@kbin.run on 05 Aug 2024 02:28 next collapse

"Environmentally friendly"? No, they use crazy amounts of power.

"High-paying, long-term" jobs? Working in a data center may be in the tech field, but it doesn't offer what people think of as "tech money" and your opportunity for advancement is slim. Data centers also don't need to employ large numbers of people. They just suck up space and resources.

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The data center industry’s demand for electricity is growing so much that it could threaten Washington’s efforts to transition to a carbon-free power grid....

The original bill required each data center to create at least 35 permanent positions at 150% of the surrounding area’s average personal income.

A second bill, approved just a month after lawmakers passed the first tax break, gave recipients the choice between creating 35 jobs or just three positions per 20,000 square feet of server farm space, whichever was less.

Oh look, I was right. Could have told you all that before the state wasted money on this.

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 05 Aug 2024 02:53 next collapse

We should make all servers move to China

Cryophilia@lemmy.world on 05 Aug 2024 05:07 collapse

I do NOT trust China with those servers.

stoy@lemmy.zip on 05 Aug 2024 04:29 next collapse

We did this here in Sweden…

Datacenters provide almost no local jobs, yeah sure, one or two technicians, a few security guards and one or two janitors, but that’s it.

Datacenters doesn’t need a lot of local staff once built.

Meanwhile, they draw a huge ammount of energy at a super low cost that won’t support upgrading infrastructure.

Microsoft has experimented with self contained underwater datacenter pods, which has no local staff and super cheap cooling.

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 05 Aug 2024 15:40 collapse

If it’s a colo data center I can see it bringing lots of local jobs. For each unique tenant in the building they’ll need at least 1-2 people within driving distance. But if it’s just like a big remotely managed AWS data center… not so much.

stoy@lemmy.zip on 05 Aug 2024 15:46 collapse

Why would you need 1-2 techs per client?

That seems extremely inefficient

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 05 Aug 2024 16:02 collapse

No the DC won’t have 1-2 techs per client, the clients themselves will have at least 1-2 techs or sysadmins or what have you to manage the hardware. And those guys will need to be somewhere in the general vicinity of the DC to go there if there’s a problem, physical inspections, etc.

It wouldn’t necessarily create jobs at the DC itself but in client companies utilizing it.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 05 Aug 2024 15:32 collapse

If the headline asks a question, the answer is almost always “no”.