pavnilschanda@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 12:33
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I’d take this over ads any day
akilou@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Oct 2023 12:58
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It’s not like they’re going to stop collecting data on you.
jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
on 30 Oct 2023 13:01
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Same here, but only if its reasonably priced. Otherweise I probably should stop using it.
In Instagram I only habe one Person I’d Miss from the family. In Facebook it’s friends and family from other countries and so many that it’s still practical to habe a facebook account. But let’s see.
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 13:04
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€9.99/month if paying on the Web, €13/month if you want to pay from within the Android or iOS apps. Not worth it IMO, especially since they say nothing about not collecting your data.
E: pricing correction
jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
on 30 Oct 2023 13:09
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Yeah, too much for me.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de
on 30 Oct 2023 13:38
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Those companies are fucking delusional. Not even on it’s height would that be worth it to me. Just goes to show how much money they extracted from you via ads before.
(I don’t think that’s it - it’s 9.99 if you’re paying on desktop and 12.99 with the Apple tax (also applied to Android), but applies to your whole account.)
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 17:25
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I see that now, I’ll edit. Thanks
ubermeisters@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 13:23
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I mean Ill continue to take “not using the services” any day
Pechente@feddit.de
on 30 Oct 2023 13:25
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I would have loved this option like 10 years ago – when it wasn’t clear what a toxic company facebook is.
ericisshort@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 13:49
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It was pretty clear what a toxic company facebook was 10 years ago. I’d say it was already becoming increasingly clear by the time The Social Network released in 2010.
Would’ve caught zero traction then lol. You can only do this if you have a very established and dedicated userbase already. Trying this from scratch with little users is a death sentence.
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Oct 2023 13:32
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One question though: if I take the paid subscription, will meta keep harvesting my data and selling it to third parties?
An ad-free Facebook is different from a tracking-free Facebook
Neato@kbin.social
on 30 Oct 2023 13:33
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There is nothing on this cold, moist rock that will stop companies from harvesting and selling your data other than the inevitable embrace of death.
netchami@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Oct 2023 13:54
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Actual answer over circle-jerk speculation: To be legal in EU, they must offer one option without required (=forced) consent to tracking. When you pay, you can actually opt-out from any measure that require consent under GDPR.
All European publishers do this. They don’t want your money and probably don’t care much about the tiny minority that actually pays for freedom from tracking. This option exist to create the illusion of choice.
Kissaki@feddit.de
on 30 Oct 2023 15:55
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The relevant reasoning [of how this makes sense in terms of alternative to privacy and regarding GDPR compliance]:
The option for people to purchase a subscription for no ads balances the requirements of European regulators while giving users choice and allowing Meta to continue serving all people in the EU, EEA and Switzerland. In its ruling, the CJEU expressly recognised that a subscription model, like the one we are announcing, is a valid form of consent for an ads funded service.
freebee@sh.itjust.works
on 30 Oct 2023 16:53
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kokesh@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 21:07
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Honestly - as much as Facebook is a horrible behemoth, this makes sense to me. How do you pay for the service? By watching ads. Or you pay a subscription.
Someone made this point above, but if that were true this would've been implemented in every country, not just the ones with GDPR.
JakenVeina@lemm.ee
on 30 Oct 2023 21:41
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It’s telling that this is omly for GDPR countries. They don’t want YOUR money, they want advertisers’ and data analysts’ money. A subscription isn’t as profitable as selling your personal data. How fucked up is that?
CatTrickery@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 22:05
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Hopefully the EU makes an example of them for providing an extreme drawback to opting out for users. They know full well that this isn’t how data protection is intended.
pdxfed@lemmy.world
on 30 Oct 2023 23:45
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I’d take this over ads any day
It’s not like they’re going to stop collecting data on you.
Same here, but only if its reasonably priced. Otherweise I probably should stop using it.
In Instagram I only habe one Person I’d Miss from the family. In Facebook it’s friends and family from other countries and so many that it’s still practical to habe a facebook account. But let’s see.
€9.99/month if paying on the Web, €13/month if you want to pay from within the Android or iOS apps. Not worth it IMO, especially since they say nothing about not collecting your data.
E: pricing correction
Yeah, too much for me.
Those companies are fucking delusional. Not even on it’s height would that be worth it to me. Just goes to show how much money they extracted from you via ads before.
(I don’t think that’s it - it’s 9.99 if you’re paying on desktop and 12.99 with the Apple tax (also applied to Android), but applies to your whole account.)
I see that now, I’ll edit. Thanks
I mean Ill continue to take “not using the services” any day
I would have loved this option like 10 years ago – when it wasn’t clear what a toxic company facebook is.
It was pretty clear what a toxic company facebook was 10 years ago. I’d say it was already becoming increasingly clear by the time The Social Network released in 2010.
Would’ve caught zero traction then lol. You can only do this if you have a very established and dedicated userbase already. Trying this from scratch with little users is a death sentence.
One question though: if I take the paid subscription, will meta keep harvesting my data and selling it to third parties? An ad-free Facebook is different from a tracking-free Facebook
There is nothing on this cold, moist rock that will stop companies from harvesting and selling your data other than the inevitable embrace of death.
Yes. They absolutely will.
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Hold your horses, they only said "ad free", "tracking free" is beyond the scope, making this essentially a double dip.
Actual answer over circle-jerk speculation: To be legal in EU, they must offer one option without required (=forced) consent to tracking. When you pay, you can actually opt-out from any measure that require consent under GDPR.
All European publishers do this. They don’t want your money and probably don’t care much about the tiny minority that actually pays for freedom from tracking. This option exist to create the illusion of choice.
The relevant reasoning [of how this makes sense in terms of alternative to privacy and regarding GDPR compliance]:
they’re insane.
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Honestly - as much as Facebook is a horrible behemoth, this makes sense to me. How do you pay for the service? By watching ads. Or you pay a subscription.
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Someone made this point above, but if that were true this would've been implemented in every country, not just the ones with GDPR.
It’s telling that this is omly for GDPR countries. They don’t want YOUR money, they want advertisers’ and data analysts’ money. A subscription isn’t as profitable as selling your personal data. How fucked up is that?
Hopefully the EU makes an example of them for providing an extreme drawback to opting out for users. They know full well that this isn’t how data protection is intended.
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Maybe if they hadn’t already harvest my data for decades. Now that it’s no longer as profitable they want me to pay to just avoid being nagged?