New York Times warns freelancers of GitHub repo data breach (www.bleepingcomputer.com)
from AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 2024 18:43
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helenslunch@feddit.nl on 16 Jun 2024 19:10 next collapse

LOL same thing happened to Google. When will these people learn MS does not care about your data?

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jun 2024 20:02 next collapse

Oh they care about your data… they want to use it to train copilot.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 2024 21:01 collapse

I don’t see what Microsoft has to do with this. The article says the repos were accessed with stolen creds.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 16 Jun 2024 21:27 collapse

As The Times told BleepingComputer last week, the attackers used exposed credentials to hack into the newspaper’s GitHub repos.

I don’t know what “exposed credentials” are but if they were accessed with “stolen” creds there would be no “hacking”, just logging in.

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 16 Jun 2024 22:23 next collapse

So… Unless Microsoft directly leaked those credentials, I don’t see how it would be their responsibility.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 16 Jun 2024 23:26 collapse

…because they didn’t adequately protect them?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 17 Jun 2024 03:10 next collapse

It is not Microsoft’s job to protect your password, it is yours.

Or did you assume it was GitHub itself that was compromised? The article doesn’t say where the creds were obtained. My guess is plain old phishing. Though it could also be cred-stealing malware, that seems to be making a comeback, in the form of browser extensions and mobile apps. Either way, those aren’t Microsoft’s fault.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 12:38 collapse

Or did you assume it was GitHub itself that was compromised?

That’s the way it reads to me.

My guess is plain old phishing.

Going back to my previous comment, if it was obtained through fishing, there would be no need for “hacking”.

BURN@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 2024 17:30 collapse

“Hacking” is a catch all term for security breaches, including phishing to the general public.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 18:58 collapse

No it is not

BURN@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 2024 19:33 collapse

Yes it is. You can be a pedantic a-hole all you want, but “hacking” includes phishing, social engineering and pretty much any other form of access control circumvention to the general public.

Edit:

Also from the article itself

A ‘readme’ file in the archive states that the threat actor used an exposed GitHub token to access the company’s repositories and steal the data.

Exposed GitHub token is very likely someone messed up and either exposed a token or was victim to an attack that could pull the token. Those are not uncommon and have happened to a lot of companies.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 20:30 collapse

Assuming the writer is using the word properly is not being pedantic.

BURN@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 2024 21:46 collapse

Reading the article proves your assumption wrong

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 21:48 collapse

…huh?

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 17 Jun 2024 07:05 collapse

[Citation needed]

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 12:40 collapse

My guy, the citation is this entire article.

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 17 Jun 2024 12:54 collapse

Please point out where it states that Microsoft leaked it, rather than the more likely case of NYT leaking their credentials.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 15:32 collapse

It doesn’t say they leaked anything, it says they were hacked.

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 17 Jun 2024 16:14 collapse

As The Times told BleepingComputer last week, the attackers used exposed credentials to hack into the newspaper’s GitHub repos.

It explicitly says the credentials were leaked. If you’re really going to insist the word “hack” implies something else, I’m afraid you’re too far on the spectrum for me to continue this conversation. Cya!

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 16:32 collapse

I’ve already explained this several times and I won’t do it again. If you’re still confused, scroll up and read again.

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 16 Jun 2024 23:27 next collapse

This is “hack” like the kid that guessed your grandma’s Facebook password is “ilovecats1953”, “hacked” Facebook.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 2024 00:54 collapse

I realize that’s possible but I don’t have any information outside of what’s in this article, so that’s all I can speculate on.

sab@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 2024 06:05 collapse

Exposed credentials means that somebody got sloppy the password. So yeah, “stolen creds”. Give the fact that a) NYT seems knows which credentials were exposed, and b) We haven’t seen hundreds of other high(er) profile companies have their private repos breached, it is far more likely that NYT fucked up, and not Microsoft (which is what you implied, with nothing to back it up - other than a very narrow-minded definition of the word hack).

CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml on 16 Jun 2024 19:26 next collapse

GitHub sucks with private repositories anyways. If any company needs a sizable source control utility, just hosting their own GitLab instance will be way cheaper and safer than entrusting it to Microsoft and paying an unnecessary enterprise rate to GitHub.

hddsx@lemmy.ca on 16 Jun 2024 20:09 next collapse

GitLab sucks and has been getting worse. Their system requirements are high because they can’t figure out how to make efficient code.

I’ve since signed up but haven’t used GitHub, so I can’t claim if it’s better or worse. But I’m definitely looking for an alternative

numbermess@fedia.io on 16 Jun 2024 20:23 next collapse

I've been pretty happy with Gitea for small projects. I had to learn how to use it for because a client was already using it and wanted to upgrade to a more recent version. I was brought in just to make sure that it would work without introducing disaster, and that was my introduction to it. It's nearly completely brainless to run as a docker container and it seems to work just fine.

realbadat@programming.dev on 17 Jun 2024 00:20 next collapse

Forgejo is my rec.

hddsx@lemmy.ca on 18 Jun 2024 20:14 collapse

Any particular reasons?

realbadat@programming.dev on 18 Jun 2024 20:22 collapse

For one thing, more FOSS focused. It’s lighter/faster for me than a self hosted gitlab, there is nothing hidden behind a paywall, they are working on some nice activitypub integration, actions are really handy (yes it’s a bit of yaml soup), codeberg is using and supporting it, a better focus on security and stability than gitea (where it forked from), the ux is clean, and that’s about what I can think of off the top of my head.

hddsx@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 2024 01:00 collapse

I’m down with all of those but possibly activitypub integration. Does that add to the product or is it a deviation from the core product?

realbadat@programming.dev on 19 Jun 2024 01:07 collapse

Imo, an add.

Creating a bug report or feature request can be done without having to create an account, and the backend tools (including blocking instances) are being completed first.

It’s not like it’s forced either. You can just run it local and have no federation (once the feature is out of course, right now you wouldn’t have it regardless).

barsquid@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 2024 16:42 collapse

Efficiency is not even my top concern with their code: arstechnica.com/…/0-click-gitlab-hijacking-flaw-u…

hddsx@lemmy.ca on 18 Jun 2024 16:47 collapse

Oof

subtext@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 2024 23:17 next collapse

I mean if they’re really looking for security, you don’t have to trust GitHub to host it, you can use GitHub Enterprise Server to self host your own GitHub.

Hella expensive like you say, but, if you’re set on GitHub and the enterprise support they provide, there are options.

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 16 Jun 2024 23:26 collapse

Hot take: GitLab is sluggish, buggy, crap. It is the “Mega Blocks” of source control management.

If you have source files that are more than a few hundred lines and you try to load them on the web interface, forget about it.

They can’t even implement 2FA in such a way that it isn’t a huge pain to interact with. There’s been an open issue for over 7 years now to implement 2FA like it is everywhere else, where you can be signed in to more than one device at a time if you have 2FA enabled (gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/16656).

Not to mention this was not a GitHub failure, this was a failure by the NYTimes to secure their developer’s credentials. This “just in house/self host everything and magically get security” mentality that’s so prevalent on Lemmy is also just wrong. Self hosting is not a security thing, especially when you’re as large of a target as NYTimes. That one little misconfiguration in your self hosted GitLab instance … the critical patch that’s still sitting in your queue … that might be the difference between a breach like this and protecting your data.

crazyminner@lemmy.ml on 17 Jun 2024 00:46 next collapse

Forgejo?

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 17 Jun 2024 01:46 next collapse

Haven’t used it first hand, but I think it’s more promising.

PlexSheep@infosec.pub on 18 Jun 2024 18:32 collapse

I self host Forgejo for a pretty long time now. I put my personal stuff there and if something seems like the public might like it I mirror it to GitHub and Codeberg. Forgejo is amazing and will be even more amazing when federation support gets stable.

barsquid@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 2024 16:40 collapse

I will never use GitLab after seeing CVE-2023-7028. It should simply not have been possible with any reasonable security posture. I do not want their software running on my machines.

Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg on 18 Jun 2024 17:32 next collapse

Yikes, thanks for sharing that one!

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 18 Jun 2024 18:10 collapse

Jesus Christ… That’s a doozy.

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 16 Jun 2024 19:45 collapse

Didn’t read the article – but why are they mentioning “freelancers” specifically? Is there some kind of feature on GitHub to better promote yourself as a freelancer?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 2024 21:02 next collapse

Freelancers who did work for the NYT, e.g. photographers.

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 16 Jun 2024 23:39 collapse

Ah – I misinterpreted the title – thanks.

Peer@discuss.tchncs.de on 16 Jun 2024 22:53 collapse

I assume since the freelancers are affected by the hack they were informed by the Times.