Mozilla defies Kremlin, restores banned Firefox add-ons in Russia (www.theregister.com)
from 0x815@feddit.de to technology@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 09:56
https://feddit.de/post/13188165

Mozilla has reinstated certain add-ons for Firefox that earlier this week had been banned in Russia by the Kremlin.

The browser extensions, which are hosted on the Mozilla store, were made unavailable in the Land of Putin on or around June 8 after a request by the Russian government and its internet censorship agency, Roskomnadzor.

Among those extensions were three pieces of code that were explicitly designed to circumvent state censorship – including a VPN and Censor Tracker, a multi-purpose add-on that allowed users to see what websites shared user data, and a tool to access Tor websites.

The day the ban went into effect, Roskomsvoboda – the developer of Censor Tracker – took to the official Mozilla forums and asked why his extension was suddenly banned in Russia with no warning.

“We recently noticed that our add-on is now unavailable in Russia, despite being developed specifically to circumvent censorship in Russia,” dev zombbo complained. “We did not violate Mozilla’s rules in any way, so this decision seems strange and unfair, to be honest.”

Another developer for a banned add-on chimed in that they weren’t informed either.

The internet org’s statement at the time mentioned the ban was merely temporary. It turns out wasn’t mere PR fluff, as Mozilla tells The Register that the ban has now been lifted.

“In alignment with our commitment to an open and accessible internet, Mozilla will reinstate previously restricted listings in Russia,” the group declared. "Our initial decision to temporarily restrict these listings was made while we considered the regulatory environment in Russia and the potential risk to our community and staff.

“We remain committed to supporting our users in Russia and worldwide and will continue to advocate for an open and accessible internet for all.”

Lifting the ban wasn’t completely necessary for users to regain access to the add-ons – two of them were completely open source, and one of the VPN extensions could be downloaded from the developer’s website.

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aisteru@lemmy.aisteru.ch on 15 Jun 12:47 next collapse

I think that’s the right thing to do, but they still gave in in the first place… Let’s hope they keep it that way.

humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 13:01 next collapse

They were afraid to lose 4% of the audience in Russia and the favor of the Russian government (probably some grants,idk). Now they are afraid to lose those who think that it’s “the right thing to do”.

Btw, it’s not that hard for the Russian government to block every VPN extension like they did with Nord VPN and Surfshark VPN let alone ban Mozilla. This action will help no one and it’s yet another act of virtue signaling

ripcord@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 15:06 next collapse

Oh OK, so they suck if they disable it, but they suck if they enable it because it’s pointless. Got it.

thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Jun 15:55 next collapse

IMO it went down like this

Mo1: hey boss those fucking orcs want us to turn these plugins off what should we do?

BossMo1: shit fuck those guys… wait I cant make this call, lawyers would probably need to be involved. Damn my boss is on vacation with that hot lady of his. Its probably 2AM where they are… OK I got it! We disable that shit for a few days get everyone all excited. Get lots of free publicity. Get Putin jacking off and then right as he is about to cum, we turn it back on and get everyone in the world to laugh at them.

Mo1: thats fucking genius!

BossMo1: One day kid, this will all be yours!

humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 21:35 collapse

Yep. After they started this story they are sucking deep

paf0@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 17:27 collapse

“Virtue signaling” is just having morals that other people find out about. Be better.

ripcord@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 15:05 collapse

No, as they said, they temporarily disabled it while they figured out what their options were and what to do. Then they did that.

1984@lemmy.today on 15 Jun 15:03 next collapse

Special plugin operation.

Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de on 16 Jun 10:32 collapse

Special plugin operation.

jaybone@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 17:16 next collapse

Why the fuck should any government decide what software you can run? Especially free software. How threatened or insecure must they be? What a true show of cowardice.

Num10ck@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 18:07 collapse

you can expect some USA whataboutism regarding tiktok or wardialing or wardriving etc.

jaybone@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 19:29 collapse

Right. And I don’t want any Chinese spyware, or NSA spyware, or Israeli spyware on any of my shit either. But here we are I guess.

letsgo@lemm.ee on 15 Jun 20:01 next collapse

Heh, I wonder how the ml tankies are spinning this one and what browser they’re going to use instead of Nazifox or whatever stupid name they’re using for it now.

Illecors@lemmy.cafe on 15 Jun 20:22 next collapse

If not for an occasional comment like yours - I would never remember I’ve defederated them. Thanks!

kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de on 16 Jun 05:37 collapse

Which instance are you talking of? Hexbear, by any chance?

Weslee@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 06:21 next collapse

I believe they are referring to Lemmy.ml

Illecors@lemmy.cafe on 16 Jun 06:35 collapse

@Weslee@lemmy.world has already answered, but in general - you can see [de]federated instances at an <instance url>/instances. In my case that would be lemmy.cafe/instances

fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com on 16 Jun 11:16 collapse

To avoid confusion, this person is saying their instance is lemmy.cafe, not answering the question. Lemmy.ml is the referred to instance.

Xirup@yiffit.net on 16 Jun 03:22 next collapse

Care to explain context?

vxx@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 10:53 collapse

Tankies are pro authoritarian. I believe their name comes from celebrating China sending tanks to tianmen square.

They pretend to be lefties though.

That’s why they would shit on Firefox, because they’re Pro Putin.

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 11:45 next collapse

I believe their name comes from celebrating China sending tanks to tianmen square.

AFAIK that name was created before tianmen.

because they’re Pro Putin.

Wouldn’t that make them just autocracy fans, not tankies?

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 17:34 collapse

AFAIK that name was created before tianmen.

Correct. It actually originates from westerners who defended the Soviet Union sending tanks into Hungary and Czechoslovakia when citizens were protesting.

Wouldn’t that make them just autocracy fans, not tankies?

They’re kinda the same thing. A tankie is a fan of autocracy, but only when Russia or China does it. It’s not a worldview that makes sense.

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 20:58 collapse

I mean Putin has his mafia of oligarchs, while China looks like capitalism with beastly grin. And while CCP fans technically can be called tankies, Putin fans cannot. Putin fans are right-wingers.

MintyFresh@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 21:14 next collapse

You’re throwing logic into a shit storm

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 21:33 collapse

Why? Russia is not Soviet Union, Putin is not communist, and Unuted Russia members are oligarchs.

TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jun 21:54 collapse

I completely agree. I don’t understand why there are some self-described ML types that support modern Russia. It really makes no sense, as Russia’s economics and government has nothing to do with communism/socialism, or Marx, anymore.

I wonder how many Russian bots and agents have infiltrated those communities to spread that propaganda. FWIW, I am a member of a Socialist org, and there is nothing but hate for the Russian government amongst my comrades.

sukhmel@programming.dev on 16 Jun 23:08 collapse

Yeah, the propaganda machine is running full steam, and the worst thing is you never really know if something is said in good faith or by the bot account.

I heard that they employ a lot of different strategies, among the other goals it is to plant doubt, so even if something sounds half-reasonable it may still be part of the propaganda :(

What a better place the world could probably be if all this effort went into something good

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 05:51 collapse

They can absolutely be called tankies, the word has evolved, just like how fascists aren’t limited to Mussolini’s National Fascist Party, but instead applies to any extremely authoritarian right winger.

To a tankie, it doesn’t matter whether Russia or China are left or right wing anymore, all they care about now is being anti-western. The US, UK, etc could turn socialist tomorrow and tankies would still hate them and defend Russia and China.

Anything the west does is bad and imperialistic, and when you bring up the dodgy shit that Russia and China do, all you’ll get back is whataboutism.

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 17:31 collapse

Minor correction, although it changes nothing about your point:

tankie actually refers to people who defended the crushing of Hungarian and Czechoslovakian revolts by Soviet military personnel, who went as far as sending tanks in to quell civil unrest.

The term was originally coined in the UK and was an insult to British Communist Party followers who would slavishly follow the Kremlin line.

Of course, the term has now evolved to mean someone from the west who seems to dislike the west and praises Russia and China, despite them also being Capitalist countries now, and generally being more into imperialism.

oatscoop@midwest.social on 17 Jun 00:30 collapse

Before any tankies claim the word is a blanket slur against communists: “tankie” was coined by British communists that were disgusted by the attitudes of some of their so-called “fellows”.

Gestrid@lemmy.ca on 16 Jun 03:22 next collapse

I recently blocked that instance, so who knows?

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 11:44 collapse

You are confusing ml with twitter.

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 21:36 next collapse

Anything to make the Kremlin rage to make more mistakes.

DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 21:42 next collapse

Way to grow some balls Mozilla!

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 11:48 collapse

Low hanging fruit. Pony sites were saying “rkn, fuck you” for a long time

sunzu@kbin.run on 16 Jun 02:47 next collapse

Fuck Russia

Pilferjinx@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 04:41 next collapse

I can’t imagine what it’s like to not to be able to live honestly without getting disappeared.

mjhelto@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 09:52 next collapse

Depending on how the US elections go in November, Americans may soon find out.

sunzu@kbin.run on 16 Jun 12:38 next collapse

Like the boeing whistleblower or Epstein "suicide" ?

assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 22:11 collapse

That’s not disappearing. That’s blatant killing.

Disappearing is sudden government abduction with no paper trail. You criticize the government and then all a sudden, your colleagues and friends don’t know what happened to you and can’t contact you.

It’s an important difference. Disappearing is more ominous and has a greater chilling effect. The government isn’t putting you in a comfortable hotel, and they aren’t killing you silently. They’re torturing you for punishment and for information, and threatening your family. It’s far more sinister.

drathvedro@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 13:49 collapse

Feels lonely, most of all. I don’t fear the cops or ex-wagners I walk past every time I go to the store. It’s the radio silence in once popular channels whose owners were “disappeared”, and friends either in exile or too scared to even go out, that makes me feel devastated.

Starb3an@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jun 07:34 collapse

Fuck Russian politics and policies* I like to believe that most Russians just want to live and drink vodka

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 11:43 next collapse

I want not to drink, but use 70% vodka as safe solvent. And live.

drathvedro@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 12:22 next collapse

I’m more of a medovukha kind of guy, but yes, indeed, we do. Thank you for saying this

frostysauce@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 21:47 next collapse

I’m American and I just want to live and drink vodka.

assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 22:22 collapse

The old saying goes that Russian history can be summarized as “And then it got worse.” The Russians are victims of their own history, and they are the first group that Putin terrorized (quite literally with the known false flag operation).

They have such a rich culture and truly bright minds. There could be wonderful scientific collaboration and cultural exchange. I’d love to see a technological rivalry reminiscent of the cold war (without all the proxy fights and nuclear threats and animosity).

I hope that it’ll be in my lifetime where we’re able to sit down and drink beer and vodka together and be on friendly terms as countries.

misterwu@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 04:40 next collapse

I love how the developer’s name is “roskomSVOBODA” (svoboda means something like freedom) in contrast to the name of the censorship agency “roskomNADZOR” (supervision).

Forgive me if i got it wrong. My russian is terrible

nolight@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 07:25 next collapse

You are absolutely correct, you got both of them right!

uis@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 11:41 collapse

Yep. Correct. Also RosComSvoboda is Pirate Party without saying Pirate Party.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 16 Jun 07:05 next collapse

Excellent. Now do Dissenter.

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jun 12:10 next collapse

well just upped my firefox donation :)

for those curious you can always make an additional one time donation in addition to your monthly one

Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 17:53 collapse

I guess this means Fox News and OAN are about to start demonizing Firefox.