None of these anchors are real: Channel 1 plans for AI to generate news, broadcasters
(www.usatoday.com)
from stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world on 17 Dec 2023 05:31
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from stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world on 17 Dec 2023 05:31
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Channel 1 AI released a promotional video explaining how the service will provide personalized news coverage to users from finance to entertainment.
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This won’t hilariously backfire at all…
I wonder if they’ve learned anything from the infamous Nothing Forever incident, or the infamous Infinite Steam incident, or any of the other various incidents.
To be fair, it looks like this actually has human editors and isn’t just running as a hands free experiment.
Don’t you mean lots of extra fingers on too many hands?
Are these the ones where the AI became incredibly racist?
Tay was such a hilarious snafu. It is, in all likelihood, one of the most influential lessons on AI. Modern models hold no memory of previous conversations for a very good reason.
Nothing Forever got a 14 day ban for generating this standup routine:
As for Infinite Steam, the only references to the banned clip seem to be on Reddit - and so a massive pain in the ass to access - but I remember the clip in question had Seymour saying something like “Oh no, I burned the Jews!”
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it changes things if you've ever wanted to become a new anchor
Also changes things if you wanted to become a news anchor programmer
Tel-AI-prompter?
The example where an interview of a victim of Hurricane Ciaran, originally in French, was deepfaked to be speaking English, was pretty scary. Some people will think that it’s just for convenience, but for me, it’s a step too far down the slippery slope. If they were to do the same for a politician, a slight nuance in how a phrase was translated could change everything.
It’s only a matter of time till someone moves a stock market for profit with a deep fake. If it hasn’t happened already.
Yeah for any sort of interviews I’d rather they kept the current convention of using a voice over, often after a 1-2 second clip of the original audio. It’s obvious that it’s a translation done by the media and not the exact original words of the source
a leaky abstraction is better because it reveals what is actually happening. That is better to me too. Heck I worry about the voice-overs giving an unfair or inaccurate version of what is being said.
Sounds a bit like the recent exploit for saying a word forever. I wonder how long until these break down and start spewing their source code.
yes…“hilarious”…
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Okay… so honest question: how long did it take for you to close the linked video?
In my case it was about 45 seconds. The weird hands/body language creeped me out and when combined with the synthetic voices I just couldn’t take it.
I got to about two and a half minutes before I shut it off.
I saw it all, albeit without audio. It honestly didn’t look that bad to me. They seemed a bit stiff and something was off with the hand gestures, other than that it was visually passable to me.
I wonder how they did it though, and how procedural it can get.
It’s only going to get better. Soon you won’t be able to tell.
I’m convinced the AI had the hand on a loop. It’s like watching someone’s first presentation in speech and debate class. It will look better eventually, but I doubt it’ll figure out the subtle emphasis great body language adds to speech.
I watched about 10 minutes before I got bored
The voice didn’t sync up to the lips and hand gestures when I watched it. That was enough for me.
Even AI have no clue what to do with their hands.
I’m waiting for the youth version where the anchor is dropped into an endless runner game.
Couldn’t be any worse than the current model for televised news, which is 2-4 buzzword parrots all attempting to shout over each other without ever attempting to address what the others are saying.
Being human doesn’t make it good.
Wake me up when there’s a better medium than just plain text.
Yeah, the news already has standard looks and standard cadence while reading scripts. A computer made anchor won’t go off script, always speaks the same and doesn’t decide to change the hairstyle.
God, the cadence alone keeps me from watching the news. Just give me a text article.
It’s why the Onion can make such great fake news coverage, or movies use news coverage as an introduction to world building. It’s very reproducable…
Things are starting to get weird faster than I thought wierd would get here.
Makes complete sense. I feel zero loyalty or trust towards what anchors are reading from a prompt. Save money and show me random ai generated ones. Better yet let me choose. I’ll pick new ones each
Yeah, In gonna need names of everyone who contributed a dollar to that before I use it as a news source.
Wonderful. Nothing will help people differentiate between real, trustworthy news and fake opinion-laden disinformation like AI generated people and content!
/s for the kids in the back.
pour one out for the kids in the back.
If they make one of them look and speak like Morbo the Annihilator, I might actually watch.
Like, with the anti-human sentiment and everything.
First Anchor: And today, a local law firm files the first lawsuit in a series over a deadly salmonella outbreak linked to cantaloupe.
Morbo: Next time, we will put the salmonella in more than just the canteloupe.
or maybe:
Morbo: Canteloupe tonight, Bridegroom has the runs!
I watched the whole thing. I think most anchors talked a bit too slow which seemed fake. Those hand gestures were weird especially for (I don’t know his name) the black anchor. Very rigid fingers.
The main cringe section was the movie section where they tried to have the black anchor act sassy but that’s hard with a very level speaking tone and speed.
Honestly, I’d watch something like that once a week.it was nice to get a broad cross section of news.
Their hand moments took me out instantly. Just the same opening and closing of hands with some variation thrown it made it feel weird.
The voices had a weird pacing, too. They sounded very close to real but just not quite, in an uncanny-valley sort of way.
What if AI generates ugly people?
This felt a lot like Naked News but y’know I’d rather look at titties while being given a bland delivery and near robotic gestures.
But AI, so I’m sure naked AI news anchors are right around the corner.
Ha! I remember that. I watched it once or twice for the novelty of it. I seem to recall that it was very bland except for the naked women. According to Wikipedia, they are still around and I think that may be more shocking than this AI news.
As far as news quality goes I think it was actually a good program but the whole “local news” format makes it feel dated and using a green screen 90% of the time makes it feel cheap.
An you’ll be able to adjust everything…voice, boob size, feminity or masculinity and muscularity.
Maybe you can make them look exactly like your highschool sweetheart or the lady at the bus stop that you always wanted to talk to. Or for the gay guys and women you can make the guy look like James Bond and he’ll even talk to you personally by first name… Hello there Jonathan, tonight I gotta tell you about this tragic accident at the tallest senior citizen Bolivian rollercoaster… everyone stood up on a turn. Oh, it was horrible as they all fell 23 stories onto the rocky mountain side right through that fresh La Paz air.
Might even be able to adjust the “facts” they say, given a malicious enough company.
Probably you can set it to Alarming, cutesy, nature news, local mom news, Republican filter, dioses Christian rock band related news. Possibly highschool style news mostly about the hottie you used to like? With proper ads…always Cocaine Cola!..hey Stacey, sho loves it an so should you!
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More and more, the human element is being removed from the news. The most horrific events will be reported by blank-faced robots with no empathy to human emotions, at least in AI channels. Imagine what kind of emotional intelligence future people will have when they constantly hear stories from poker-faced (and voiced) human-like images.
I’m not sure what idea I hate more: Blank faced puppet cg reporters reciting horrible events, or cg puppets acting sad about their reports. Both are just…not fun.
I mean I think part of this is that the technology is reaching a point where emotion is actually reasonably emulatable.
Hopefully we may be able to get some, at least intellectualized, empathy in models in the future. laion.ai/blog/open-empathic/
I fear that for this kind of work, because of the stakeholders, the goal will be passable acting and not a genuine regard for people’s emotional well-being.
I nominate this for worst idea of the decade.
NFTs though
NFTs sucked hard, but this is Fake News on ketamine mixed with steroids. Maybe not this channel, but it’s gonna be a thing. This is wild.
Hmm true the misinformation problem is about to explode
“they intend to re-create events not captured by camera using generative AI,”
That’s going to cause all sorts of problems.
don’t worry they’ve stated that they’ll clearly mark it with an arbitrary symbol, so no one will possibly think it’s the real deal.
Nah, most people will see the symbol or caption or whatever warning system they use and still assume it’s 100% real.
my statement was sarcasm
This is why I like hearing conversations. My sarcasm detector doesn’t work as well online.
lol
Hackers are revving up their fingers
The deepest of ironies in a company allegedly made to report “facts”, primarily using artificiality to do so.
Even if they are completely earnest and honest, the tech they are helping spearhead is going to completely change how information is approached and will be one of the biggest challenges, if not the biggest challenge, we are going to face as a society in a long time. This is really unnerving to watch develop in front of my eyes.
I feel like they’re shooting themselves in the foot with this. If AI reporting gets to a good enough point, people can just have an AI on their phone tell them the news report, rather than a video of an AI giving the report, broadcast from a central server. They will lose their viewers
The use of unrelated b-roll and stock footage is already a nightmare in this way. One burning trash can becomes the new standard-bearer for any protest they disagree with for the next year or two. Now they can fine tune it to location …
Honestly, for the news, these sorts of tricks for effect NEED to be clearly and constantly marked during their use. It is actually dangerous the way they currently do it, imho.
I’m biased enough towards transparency, though I think if they do use AI then they should have to reveal the prompt and model used to make it on top of clearly and constant marking showing it is not actual footage.
…what the fuck is Channel 1?
Looks like it’ll be one of those free streaming channels on things like Pluto TV. So not an actual TV channel.
Russians having their flashbacks of the main war propaganda network in their homeland
This is wild. I almost wonder if it’s actually a real thing or an elaborate hoax. It’s impressive in either case.
As far as the concept of AI news, there are obvious drawbacks but also some advantages. In particular, the anchors are less animated and emotional, which eliminates quite a bit of bias. Cable news anchors with their incredulity, snide remarks, and expressions have done a lot to help ruin the news. That alone can easily undermine a story or a guest in a way that causes the audience to pick a side.
The idea of using AI to scour public records and create stories is another really cool idea. There’s so much out there and not enough reporters with the time or inclination to investigate everything.
I’m not too keen on the AI generated imagery, although traditional news outlets essentially do the same thing. It’s a dangerous thing to be presented with artificial pictures and videos in a news format. Before long, you can’t distinguish between reality and artificial, which is more or less the same problem a significant portion of the country has had since the 2016 election. In that case, they were mostly fed stupid memes and fabricated stories on social media. This is a completely different level. In the wrong hands, this is a weapon of mass destruction.
Fucking hell we’re at the point of having Eliza Cassan from Deus Ex Human Revolution be reality aren’t we
If it means the end of overpaid talking heads then I’m all for it.
So the executives will be overpaid by the amount the talking heads made plus the amount they were already overpaid by
They’ll get rid of everyone. It will just be a few at the top that already have power and money. A more efficient version of what we have today.
“More efficient” in that there is zero point to be opposed by anyone else down the line. While it’s not like we’re getting a lot of resistance from media workers all the time right now, real people are going to have a breaking point if things go too far in some direction. Now all executives will need to worry about is appeasing an audience, and with robot reporters that will say anything and everything, that’s not a problem in the slightest.
Deus Ex predicted the future once again.
I bet these ones will do exactly what they are told
They said they are accurate, unbiased, and trustworthy. You can trust them…
You will trust them.
Hello, I’m Eliza Cassan, and this is a Channel 1 breaking news announcement.
A crackpot video game nerd caused a viral sensation when he livestreamed himself blocking traffic in Times Square, shouting loudly that reality is actually just following the script of some video game from the 1990’s, before consuming 10 vials of Zyme, assaulting a pigeon, and then dying of a heart attack.
Onlookers reactions were varied, but most continued on perfectly linear paths, walking by the incident without seeming to notice it.
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This garbage video contains the clip.
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Here’s a marker to the promotional video embedded in the junk; youtu.be/yRFDG1QltBI?t=29
Uh oh
This tech is going to completely derail communication and discussion in modern society and all people here are talking about is how weird they look or how it’s “the same” as news already. That’s…not great.
It’s a good way to filter out the wheat from the chaff. Find people you like who accept that this is a bad thing, band together and break away from the burning shitpile society’s becoming. Build something new.
Brings a new meaning to POV that “The real Journalists are doing print”
So people are just going to be blatantly lied to and exposed to completely made up deepfakes, and no one cares.
Yeah, that tracks.
I wonder if they’ll cry “the AI did it!” when the chat bot hallucinates up some random misinformation.
bravisimo !!! why paying to have real humans to say the news, when AI can do it for you? right ? it does not sound dystopian at all, just AI, that will tell you what ever they want it to tell you!(not that now this in’t happening.)\
Edit: I didn’t mention legislation’s, like they don’t exist, jobs like this one will be lost, and no one will do something because some politicians will benefit from that. And maybe this is the beginning, wait till they start with other jobs(starting if not started).
We just have to have a personalized AI to read the news for you and give you a condensed “important bits you would find” version. Which you ignore because you’re not that into the news that comes out lately. Cue dead internet theory again for the #789 time.
Oh hey we’re just entering a period where it’s becoming harder and harder to tell what is legitimate information and what is AI generated propaganda? Why not demolish our credibility by joining the AI propaganda crowd!
I mean it’s not like anyone is taking courses in ethics in journalism anymore anyway, it’s just the “real world” version of Facebook outrage as “news” now anyway…
Man I miss being 12 and looking forward to what the future had in store. I used to say I want to be immortal just so I could see what awesome things we made in the future, now all I want is to never reach the future we’re barreling towards…
I’ve never heard of channel 1 in the usa, so VERY HEAVILY assume this is fake
Is AI writing click bait stories about AI?
or fake news
Max Headroom becomes reality.
Me waiting for the news channels and free lance writers to start asking them for money for all of this. Also fact checking is already non-existent in news is going to get so much worse. Can’t wait for this to start up their own tik tok account.