A friend of mine has that one. I was a little surprised to see that the telescope ladder is the exact same as the cheapest one in a discount hardware store. I wonder how much it costs at Audiā¦
Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 08 Mar 2024 20:25
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This looks like a quality tent that won't fold if someone breathes on it.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 19:41
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Motorcycle (and backpacking) camper here, so right there are my credentials for being able to shove a camping loadout into a vehicle.
For $3000, you can buy an entire high end backpacking setup, and also be able to use it without the presence of your stupid truck. And when I say entire, I mean it: A nice free standing tent you could probably pitch inside the truck bed if you had some creativity and really wanted to, a premium cot or inflatable pad, very competent sleeping bag, backpack, stove, water filter, hiking poles, a chair, a nice knife, the whole lot.
With change left over. I just added up the full list prices of everything in my core loadout and you could buy it all (including the backpack, which you donāt need for truck camping) for $1418.82.
So just do that instead.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 19:53
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Yeah, even a high-quality truck or SUV compatible tent is a minor fraction of the cost here. I could walk into an REI with $3,000.00 and end up with an incredible kit of camping gear. This is highway robbery.
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:26
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Iām pretty sure what happened is that they were essentially pitching a shell for the back of the truck. And if itās rigid and made of metal and maybe folded down to act as a cover while driving, fine. Thatād still be a lot more than what the average truck/SUV convertible will cost. But itās Tesla so itās expected.
But then they changed to this BS and couldnāt reduce the price without recognizing the drop in expectation so here we are.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
on 09 Mar 2024 16:22
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Itās the price you deserve to pay if you support Tesla.
This requires a cybertruck. And thereās a whole class of people that already have crossbars on their cars. I priced out a Thule kit for my wagon and it was about 2400 bucks for the whole kit including the mounting hardware for my roof rails. And itās modular, and will work on any vehicle.
billiam0202@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 20:21
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Yeah, but none of that helps convince me I didnāt buy a shitty truck and stave off the buyerās remorse for another few months!
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 08 Mar 2024 21:22
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Itās not rust, itās a P a t i n a
Death_Equity@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:45
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free standing tent you could probably pitch inside the truck bed if you had some creativity and really wanted to
The cyber truck bed is ~72x51(I have also seen 49"). Most 2 person tents are 50-54x78-88. I couldnāt find the bed length with the tailgate down, but the interior height with the cover closed is about 20", so we can assume the available length would be over 90". The other issue is most 2 person tents are side opening and getting out would be a bother, but a head or foot opening tent could totally work.
You could squeeze in a very nice 2 person head opening tent and spend under $800 easily, you can have a nice tent for $250. A custom 4 season tent is still only about $1,000.
But truck bed tents do exist, and those would fit easily and are under $500 all day.
Kbin_space_program@kbin.social
on 08 Mar 2024 21:36
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Hell, for 3k you could hire someone to haul a tent out to you. Maybe even air drop the damn thing to you.
The self-assembling tent I used to use was only $50.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 19:50
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Man, they really fucked that upā¦
From the original concept it looks like it started out as a camper shell that could be lifted and had fabric flaps that would keep it sealed. And with the shell closed it would have a relatively flat top.
But it got cheapened to all tent before announced, and then a shitty tent by release.
But that camper shell idea? That would be worth 3k and incredibly awesome.
Thereās thousands of options for bed-tents with trucks. Tesla aināt the first to do this by a thousand miles.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 19:50
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As a seasoned camper the original design doesnāt look even remotely weatherproof. So to me, this is an improvement.
The lack of tent mode (suspension self levelling) is disappointing but in reality other vehicles donāt have that feature either and the world is full of level campsites. Itās also not that hard to manually level things up with ramps or a jack.
More disappointing is thereās no way to connect the tent to the HVAC system - that would have been a massive selling point if they could manage it and surely wouldnāt have been difficult? Just need some sort of opening or pipe to the main cabin and a few software tweaks to make sure you donāt drain the battery overnight.
FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run
on 08 Mar 2024 19:55
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Agreed, the original was a stupid design. This is much more realistic looking and looks 'fine'. Though it doesn't look like it's worth 3 grand either...
Death_Equity@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:55
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Not having HVAC access in the tent is totally reasonable because you would have to have an opening that seals. Sure having a window in the back glass would work, but you are still using power to regulate the entire cab plus the tent.
They could have had an option for a bed tent duct and wireless temperature sensor so you are only regulating the tent, but the cost and design investment for a low adoption option would not make it viable.
In any case, trying to regulate the temperature of an uninsulated tent would destroy battery life and there would be tons of cyber trucks stuck in camping sites with dead batteries.
If you want heating and cooling when camping, get a trailer or camper.
If youāre at a campsite with hookups you donāt need to use battery for HVAC.
Death_Equity@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 16:58
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It is the minority of campsites that have shore power.
Regardless, why would you take a truckbed tent camping and want HVAC? If you have a $100k truck with 11,000lbs towing capacity and want HVAC at a site with shore power, you tow a trailer.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 19:59
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Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Mar 2024 21:53
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Adding this to my directives. If Iām ever seen sitting underneath a Pontiac Aztec tent in flip-flops, it means Iāve lost the will to live and life supporting measures should be halted. Primarily removing my available oxygen supply via pillow suffocation.
rlxmsg@feddit.de
on 09 Mar 2024 10:39
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Why so mean? Donāt be the bully!
Thatās just a random camper dudeā¦ What happened that you get PTSD because of flip-flopsā¦?
dantheclamman@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 17:20
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Frankly he looks like heās thriving. Iām happy for him
Still, whatās the point of this kind of tent vs a regular one?
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 20:31
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The Rivian that was announced a few days ago has a nice feature, rear seats and the two front ones all fold flat so that it can fit a twin air mattress in the cabin. That seems a better solution than ā¦ whatever the fuck this is.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 20:31
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$3000 is way too much for a tarp stapled to the back of an overpriced pile of shit
Kolanaki@yiffit.net
on 08 Mar 2024 20:32
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Just get a real tent or sleep in your car. Why the fuck would you ever want to half ass both?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 04:47
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That moonroof sure makes stargazing comfy
jabjoe@feddit.uk
on 08 Mar 2024 20:44
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Why the bad 80s SciFi look? Itās so ugly.
Ioughttamow@kbin.run
on 08 Mar 2024 23:00
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Iām not like the other CEOs
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Mar 2024 20:54
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Iāll stick with my Transit camper build, thanks.
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:04
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The Cyber truck is like the Pontiac Aztecās special ed electrically charged cousin.
grue@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:05
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When I read the headline, I thought it was talking about a thing to park your Cybertruck under so it wouldnāt rust.
This is only slightly less stupid.
DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
on 08 Mar 2024 21:19
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This thing somehow keeps getting worse
MNByChoice@midwest.social
on 08 Mar 2024 21:24
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Stop preordering unreleased things.
Donāt preorder games or unreleased cars.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 22:05
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The āpreordersā for the truck were $250 and were refundable. They basically just held your spot in line and allowed you the option to order at a certain time.
Also, I could be wrong, but I donāt think you could preorder the tent.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 22:20
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The article at least implies there were changes between the time you could buy and the time they were shipping.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 23:06
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It said it changed since the Cybertruck reveal in 2019, and when then tent arrived for sale 3 months ago, it was different than the original reveal concept.
I donāt believe you were able to preorder the tent during the reveal. You could only reserve an order spot for the truck, and you could back out of that reservation if you changed your mind.
If you didnāt like changes that were made to the truck or the accessories between reveal and launch, you could totally get your $250 back and walk over to the Rivian store.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 00:31
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The way it said:
The product became āBasecampā and was released for sale shortly after Tesla revealed the production version of the truck last year. It already seemed to be a lot less attractive design at that point. Now, Tesla has started shipping, or rather installing, the Basecamp for early Cybertruck owners.
(Emphasis mine) made me think it got worse after the design changes at sale time, but maybe I misinterpreted it.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 02:35
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Here are the press shots from when it was announced for sale at the of end last year. Theyāre the press shots theyāre still using to promote the product 3 months later.
The article is basically saying that when the tent was announced for sale, the design changed and it was much less exciting than the early concepts. Some people bought them anyway, fully knowing that they were no longer something with stainless steel sides.
Now that they have arrived, the reality of the lacklusterness has now really set in.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 03:30
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Got it, thanks!
rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:28
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I need to understand why people still keep giving that man money. Willingly. Itās mind boggling.
JiveTurkey@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:54
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I donāt either. People love being shit on I guess. Itās what makes huge companies like Apple and Tesla so popular.
JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 23:32
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Apple makes some really stupid products that they charge ridiculous money for and their usual stuff is more expensive than it needs to be but at least their core products are of very good quality. The same cannot be said of Tesla
pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de
on 09 Mar 2024 10:17
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Good quality but still overpriced. You pay for the brand name.
pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de
on 09 Mar 2024 10:18
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Good quality but still overpriced. You pay for the brand name.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de
on 08 Mar 2024 23:14
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It must be because not everyone follows him around like us on reddit/Lemmy. I think this sort of thing is not reported in mainstream news. So the average person is barely aware of who Elon Musk even is.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
on 08 Mar 2024 23:56
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It really is.
Iām just amazed anyone would buy the truck, let alone a $3k tent for it.
Just tattoo idiot on your forehead. At least youād still have most of your money.
drdiddlybadger@pawb.social
on 09 Mar 2024 00:03
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Ego dream marketing. Same as any people buying SUVs after seeing an advertisement with a handsome business man in a suite with a big watch driving across the Alpes.
bitwolf@lemmy.one
on 09 Mar 2024 06:35
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Ego dream marketing
Lol for real, I was thinking just that when I watched the Charger EV commercial.
But then theyāre taking off from a traffic light in the Chicago suburbs which at least straightens out the somewhat rough idle that the check engine tape didnāt really fix and the glovebox falls open for the third time that day due to another pothole. Turns out the 20" wheels from the spirit package were wasted money on top of wasted money.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:33
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Le piez de mierdance!
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 22:16
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For $3,000? What a kick in the teeth!
bfg9k@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 22:18
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$3,000 will get you a really nice regular tent
Why spend it on a tiny little swag that sits on your ute back, I can do that already lol
Depending on your requirements (e.g. are you planning on camping in hardcore places or just regular spots in fair weather), you could get not only the tent but all the rest of the camping gear as well for that price.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
on 08 Mar 2024 23:45
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If youāre taking that shitty truck, from early reports, you arenāt going to anywhere hardcore. Maybe the park down the street.
You can get a good tent for $50, or a tarp and some rope for $30. You can get all your camping stuff for $1000. Less is more with camping.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 01:03
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That walmart tent you buy for 50 aint a good tent, and will either leak like a sieve in the rain, or be so unbreathable as to become an unlivable humidity drenched hotbox from your perspiration and body heat.
KevonLooney@lemm.ee
on 09 Mar 2024 01:10
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Camping is not living outdoors permanently. You can choose the dates that you are outside and the place you go, so you can choose the weather too.
Strykker@programming.dev
on 09 Mar 2024 04:56
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Sometimes people go for more than a single day, or you book weeks in advance and have to deal with whatever shit weather you get.
Weather can also suddenly change over a single day.
johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 20:33
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Especially camping up in the mountains, the weather can change real fast. But Iām not gonna let a little rain stop me, thatās why tents have footprints and rain covers.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 02:43
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I have the 2 person version of that tent. Itās me through down pours and wind. The only thing more expensive tents have is easy of set up and tear down.
I know. This other dude doesnāt. Expensive camping gear is just lighter by a few oz. Just carry less.
johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 01:20
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You can certainly get a decent one for <$300 though. Which is an order of magnitude less than $3000.
Tattorack@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 00:15
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Ok, but likeā¦ Youāre talking about people whoād waste money on buying a ācyberā truck in the first place. At that point itās like people buying Apple products; itās less about having the best possible version of the thing and more about having something from Tesla/Musk.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 01:02
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500 dollars will get you a really nice regular tent.
3000 will get you a fucking glampers dream setup.
SharkAttak@kbin.social
on 08 Mar 2024 20:45
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"ha ha, suckers"
Elon Musk
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
on 08 Mar 2024 20:45
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I'm a little sad the new VW van doesn't have a Westfalia trim. Those pop up campers were great: Stove, fridge, sink, table, and it sleeps four. Plus with a tailwind you might hit 55.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip
on 08 Mar 2024 22:58
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Thatās like Bethesda fallout backpack levels of quality
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 00:29
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It does literally compare it to that whole debacle in the article
Ah. I use reader mode and it didnāt load the comments. Thanks
Honestly, I didnāt see that whole controversy when it happened and I just looked it up. The final, actually canvas, bag they ended up sendingā¦still seems like a huge ripoff. But thatās just me and Iāve never really seen anything but the monster factory episodes of fallout.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 02:49
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Yeah the whole thing was a sham. So glad I usually buy games after 1 year and on sale.
Same. I gotta update my console though. I bought an Xbox X or S, whichever is the cheaper of the two. And I donāt play many games. Literally like two. RDR2 and fifa. Used to play GTA V but Iām over it. Getting there with rdr2. But I wanted to play the new resident evil 4 remake but itās ānot optimized for this console.ā
But now all this talk about PlayStation 5 āreaching the sunset of its careerā or whatever Sony said recently and then the whole Microsoft maybe bailing on the Xbox thing, I feel like if I sink the money into a new console soon, Iāll just be getting into another situation where all the things I might want to try are for the NEWER console. I dunno, Iām not a huge gamer, but I still enjoy playing.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 03:18
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I never liked consoles. Even less when they started charging for online play. Like vitch I already bought the fucking game. Let me play it.
Guntrigger@feddit.ch
on 09 Mar 2024 08:57
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I think the worst part is they gave streamers and influencers the actual promised canvas bag. That shows someone made this shitty decision and knew it was shitty.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 01:01
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I had the exact same thought, and was about to make the same post
āOh god, its the Fallout preorder bags 2: electric car boogalooā
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Mar 2024 01:10
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I have one of those 76 ācanvasā (vinyl) bags sitting around somewhere. Anytime somebody I know gets excited about a new Bethesda game, I just send them a picture of it and tell them that Iāve got a great bag to sell them.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Mar 2024 02:28
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Can I see the Pic of the bag?
theangryseal@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 02:40
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Oooh, me too.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Mar 2024 03:39
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It feels a lot like one of those bags you get at a con for free, or a jacket that youād get off of a cheap Chinese website like Alibaba or Temu. That cheap woven plastic type of material.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Mar 2024 03:50
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Thatās even worse than I was expecting
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Mar 2024 04:02
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I wasnāt surprised that they cheaped out on the bag, most collectorās edition stuff isnāt what Iād call āhigh qualityā and a canvas bag on its own would be pretty pricey for collectorās edition stuff (and that game came with like a full-size helmet and stuff too), but I was really surprised at just how cheap they went. Thereās replacing the item with a cheaper alternative, and then thereās lowest bidder from the sweatshops cheap.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Mar 2024 03:52
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Literally. Itās like owning a piece of video game history like one of the cartridges of ET for the Atari - a shitty piece of video game history about the greed of companies.
Leviathan@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 00:15
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I feel like relentless bullying is in this truckās ownerās future.
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
on 09 Mar 2024 00:22
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What do Tesla fans expect at this point? Every product is made as cheaply as possible and sold on marketing bullshit.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Mar 2024 00:32
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When you order your ugly truck tent from Wish
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 00:38
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They bought the car in the first place, which waives their right to complain in my opinion.
JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Mar 2024 01:31
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I actually do care that a company is violating advertisment laws and I hope each and every person gets their money back. Owning something I dislike isnāt enough for me to ignore the wrongdoings of a company.
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 07:17
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Didnāt the guy at the helm recently say āgo fuck yourselfā to other kind of people giving him money too? Just sayin
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 00:43
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Ha ha ha ha! Now that itās some complete shit right there!
Poggervania@kbin.social
on 08 Mar 2024 22:59
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Adam Something has an infallible equation that explains all of this kind of stuff: rich asshole + stupid idea with tons of nice CGI renders = dumb shit
Mango@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 01:45
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I could literally do better myself.
Source: Iām just a guy on the Internet.
3volver@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 01:49
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Holy shit this had me laughing hard. Someone paid $3k for that shit? š
This is what happens when you let billionaire leeches like Elon make decisions rather than real engineers.
tills13@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 02:59
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This is proveably true since Rivian offers similar gear and those actually work. And they didnāt reinvent the wheel so existing truck tents just work.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 04:43
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Wait, 3k? My $50 tent is better and larger.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 05:27
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easier to setup and will probably last longer.
tastysnacks@programming.dev
on 09 Mar 2024 07:46
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Definitely does not have the Steve Jobs talent
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
on 09 Mar 2024 08:34
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The guy single-handedly moved IT from astronomy to astrology in the eyes of masses, thank God heās dead.
Guntrigger@feddit.ch
on 09 Mar 2024 09:12
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Idk, he is still managing to sell way overpriced versions of existing tech to people. Albeit much less polished. His main mistake is exposing himself as an idiot at every opportunity, rather than keeping the mystique to make it seem cool.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca
on 09 Mar 2024 01:51
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Cāmon, Tesla. Pontiac had this shit figured out almost 25 years ago with the Aztek. This isnāt difficult.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 03:26
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āWeāre sorry that you arenāt happy with the tent. The tent shown in the media was a prototype and was too expensive to make. We arenāt planning on doing anything about it.ā
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 05:27
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Do you really think theyād get a reply, and not the usual poop emoji?
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Mar 2024 08:05
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Thatās the famous honest bethesda support reply to giving a cheap nylon carrying bag with a special edition of fallout 76 instead of a high quality canvas one
suction@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 05:57
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OK Elon, thank you! How much money do you need next? No need to tell me for what. Just let me send you some money.
Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 07:26
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Light wood laminate!
Snapz@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 05:03
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These idiots just line up to be grifted publicly and then willingly drive around advertising that they are broken trash people. Never stop ridiculing these chuds
machinin@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 05:59
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A theory I follow is that Musk got hold of some findom customer lists and built his customer base from those. His customers love getting financially fucked by that guy.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 07:39
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I finally saw one of these ugly things (the truck), down in Miami a few days ago.
pixelscience@lemm.ee
on 09 Mar 2024 05:37
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You can see the awful, misaligned panel gaps in those photos.
suction@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 05:59
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And here I was thinking all of Elonās fanboys carry a permanent tent anyway?
bitwolf@lemmy.one
on 09 Mar 2024 06:24
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The actual product bows at the top. Their entire back half of the truck is flat, wouldnāt a lightweight hardtop would be a much better choice over tent poles across the roof?
Especially if theyāre going for looks.
It would be easier to match the angle of the open tent to that of the front of the truck. (Although even the render doesnāt match it, so maybe they want the extra angle).
They already lose several inches in horizontal space, they could fit a metal prop in there as a redundancy to support the top.
Could add a large plexiglass tinted window in the hardtop.
It would look a lot better when closed into the bed.
BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz
on 09 Mar 2024 07:09
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puppy@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 07:46
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If it cost like $75 max thatās within realms of sensibility. If I bought that thing for 3000 Iād probably die from embarrassment. Itās like an advertisement for how gullible you are.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 10:45
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I mean, these people did already buy cybertrucksā¦
AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de
on 09 Mar 2024 08:50
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Well to be honest, the advertised tent looks like Snow Whiteās Coffin to meā¦
Guntrigger@feddit.ch
on 09 Mar 2024 09:01
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I guess if you were going for that post-apocalyptic mad max vibe the cybertruck offers then this is the perfect accessory!
Really looks like someone made a makeshift shelter out of trash bags over the shell of a wrecked old shitty truck.
pr06lefs@lemmy.ml
on 09 Mar 2024 16:15
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Its a continuing mystery to me why people want these vehicle-integrated tents. If you want to go into town for a burrito, you have to break down your camp. If parking is only by the road thatās where you sleep. If parking isnāt level you arenāt sleeping level. Your tent is exposed to road dirt and water all the time. They are way more expensive than a regular tent. They are locked in to one vehicle. They make your gas mileage worse. They are hard to install and remove.
If you could have HVAC in the tent then ok. But sounds like that isnāt a thing here either.
rusticus@lemm.ee
on 09 Mar 2024 16:45
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Well I have a hard shell RTT (Autohome) that I love. Gets me off of the ground on a memory foam mattress and itās well insulated. Very little hit to mileage. Iāve used it on my Jeep Rubicon and now on my Rivian R1S. Takes less than 2 minutes to pop up and I donāt have to worry about wild animals (I camp in bear/mountain lion territory).
But I agree this thing is ridiculous. I read someone else called it a Cyberdiaper lol.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 19:35
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I donāt get the truck bed tents, personally. I guess they might have their use cases for hunters or something who are taking their truck out to the woods anyway, crashing overnight, and getting up at the crack of dawn to shoot Bambi and go home. Or something. But otherwise I donāt see the appeal over just using a regular old tent, which will be both cheaper and considerably more versatile or doing as we used to do and just put a cap on your truck, and throw an air mattress in the back. The cap-and-mattress plan also has the advantage of not needing an actual camp site or anywhere to even put down stakes for a fly; you can just stop in any damn fool sandy/muddy/rocky/wet/paved location you like and there you go.
I almost bought a rooftop tent a few years ago. I was in Snoqualmie in the pouring rain at dusk, because Seattle, just crashing there after driving across the country before moving on the next morning. The guy at the site next to me rocked up with an Xterra with a rooftop tent on it and just folded the thing out and climbed in. Meanwhile I was out there getting drenched working on hammering my tent stakes into the damn hard packed clinker they dump all over the camp sites there. At that exact moment I did not hate any person on earth more than I hated that motherfucker and his rooftop tent.
catch22@programming.dev
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lol, wowā¦š
hark@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 16:26
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Over-promise and under-deliver, that is the tesla way.
Joker@discuss.tchncs.de
on 09 Mar 2024 19:04
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100%. That has been exactly my experience. Thereās no question itās a good car, but they always manage to set higher expectations than what they are capable of delivering. You canāt help but feel disappointed even though you have a great EV. Itās really soured me on the whole brand. I would never buy another one.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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Ok Honda, you see it right?
2025 Honda Element would absolutely dust this trash.
Clearly thereās been a market segment since 2011 that still wants it so cāmon.
This cybertruck feels like it would be such visual pollution on campgrounds and stuff.
winky9827b@lemmy.world
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Itās visual pollution anywhere. I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone finds that style appealing to begin with.
Nomecks@lemmy.ca
on 09 Mar 2024 17:00
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I had one of these for my Avalanche, it cost $200.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
on 09 Mar 2024 18:21
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Looks like Elon accidentally added a zero to his price tag and everyone just kinda accepted it.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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I donāt want a cybertruck and I think Elon is an ass, but it would pretty cool if you had a tent like this that didnāt suck on a truck that wasnāt stupid and you could hook the tent up to the climate control and have it vented through the tent. Like, winter camping, toasty warm, summer camping, nice and cool. That would be pretty baller. Is that a thing already?
PumpUpTheJam@lemmy.world
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Sounds like an RV
CompanionCrow@lemm.ee
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There are a few different options that Iāve seen. Thereās a tent that comes out of the back of an SUV to allow airflow and a bit of extra room. Thereās also a normal sort of dome tent that zips around the hatch of an SUV, making your vehicle into an extra room of the tent, or maybe vice versa.
einat2346@lemmy.today
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At what point does it become cheaper to just have a W-2 menial stand around you with an umbrella?
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world
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Oof
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That is a chonky boi. Too chonky for their own good š
Ow lad he's coming
Third party Cybertruck tents will probably have an easy time competing.
Until Musk tries to sue them.
Youāre not paying for a ridiculously expensive novelty vehicle and then getting practical on after market accessories.
I mean, Iāve seen weirder crap for my carā¦
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What is this, a house for bees?
I actually kinda like those things.
They were huge at multi day music festivals with camping, probably still are.
You only got so much space for camping, so camping on your car saved space and helped make sure you got a breeze being higher up than everyone.
Like a treefort.
A friend of mine has that one. I was a little surprised to see that the telescope ladder is the exact same as the cheapest one in a discount hardware store. I wonder how much it costs at Audiā¦
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Hammond had one on his car in the new Prime special Sand Job.
These are weird?
Having it hang over? yeahā¦ little weirdā¦
The rack isnāt even attached to the rails in this picture. So not that weird.
Looks like an AI generated monstrosity.
Just like the truck itself
This looks like a quality tent that won't fold if someone breathes on it.
Motorcycle (and backpacking) camper here, so right there are my credentials for being able to shove a camping loadout into a vehicle.
For $3000, you can buy an entire high end backpacking setup, and also be able to use it without the presence of your stupid truck. And when I say entire, I mean it: A nice free standing tent you could probably pitch inside the truck bed if you had some creativity and really wanted to, a premium cot or inflatable pad, very competent sleeping bag, backpack, stove, water filter, hiking poles, a chair, a nice knife, the whole lot.
With change left over. I just added up the full list prices of everything in my core loadout and you could buy it all (including the backpack, which you donāt need for truck camping) for $1418.82.
So just do that instead.
Yeah, even a high-quality truck or SUV compatible tent is a minor fraction of the cost here. I could walk into an REI with $3,000.00 and end up with an incredible kit of camping gear. This is highway robbery.
Iām pretty sure what happened is that they were essentially pitching a shell for the back of the truck. And if itās rigid and made of metal and maybe folded down to act as a cover while driving, fine. Thatād still be a lot more than what the average truck/SUV convertible will cost. But itās Tesla so itās expected.
But then they changed to this BS and couldnāt reduce the price without recognizing the drop in expectation so here we are.
Itās the price you deserve to pay if you support Tesla.
Even in the same kind of class of hardware, a Thule roof-tent is vastly superior for less money.
And! You can move that to your next vehicle when your Cybertruck inevitably disintegrates.
Hey thatās not rust thatās a lovely brown patina!
When you factor in the roof rack you need to get, most reputable RTT are in that $3k price range.
This requires a cybertruck. And thereās a whole class of people that already have crossbars on their cars. I priced out a Thule kit for my wagon and it was about 2400 bucks for the whole kit including the mounting hardware for my roof rails. And itās modular, and will work on any vehicle.
Yeah, but none of that helps convince me I didnāt buy a shitty truck and stave off the buyerās remorse for another few months!
Itās not rust, itās a P a t i n a
The cyber truck bed is ~72x51(I have also seen 49"). Most 2 person tents are 50-54x78-88. I couldnāt find the bed length with the tailgate down, but the interior height with the cover closed is about 20", so we can assume the available length would be over 90". The other issue is most 2 person tents are side opening and getting out would be a bother, but a head or foot opening tent could totally work.
You could squeeze in a very nice 2 person head opening tent and spend under $800 easily, you can have a nice tent for $250. A custom 4 season tent is still only about $1,000.
But truck bed tents do exist, and those would fit easily and are under $500 all day.
Hell, for 3k you could hire someone to haul a tent out to you. Maybe even air drop the damn thing to you.
The self-assembling tent I used to use was only $50.
Man, they really fucked that upā¦
From the original concept it looks like it started out as a camper shell that could be lifted and had fabric flaps that would keep it sealed. And with the shell closed it would have a relatively flat top.
But it got cheapened to all tent before announced, and then a shitty tent by release.
But that camper shell idea? That would be worth 3k and incredibly awesome.
Thereās thousands of options for bed-tents with trucks. Tesla aināt the first to do this by a thousand miles.
As a seasoned camper the original design doesnāt look even remotely weatherproof. So to me, this is an improvement.
The lack of tent mode (suspension self levelling) is disappointing but in reality other vehicles donāt have that feature either and the world is full of level campsites. Itās also not that hard to manually level things up with ramps or a jack.
More disappointing is thereās no way to connect the tent to the HVAC system - that would have been a massive selling point if they could manage it and surely wouldnāt have been difficult? Just need some sort of opening or pipe to the main cabin and a few software tweaks to make sure you donāt drain the battery overnight.
Agreed, the original was a stupid design. This is much more realistic looking and looks 'fine'. Though it doesn't look like it's worth 3 grand either...
Not having HVAC access in the tent is totally reasonable because you would have to have an opening that seals. Sure having a window in the back glass would work, but you are still using power to regulate the entire cab plus the tent.
They could have had an option for a bed tent duct and wireless temperature sensor so you are only regulating the tent, but the cost and design investment for a low adoption option would not make it viable.
In any case, trying to regulate the temperature of an uninsulated tent would destroy battery life and there would be tons of cyber trucks stuck in camping sites with dead batteries.
If you want heating and cooling when camping, get a trailer or camper.
If youāre at a campsite with hookups you donāt need to use battery for HVAC.
It is the minority of campsites that have shore power.
Regardless, why would you take a truckbed tent camping and want HVAC? If you have a $100k truck with 11,000lbs towing capacity and want HVAC at a site with shore power, you tow a trailer.
Pontiac Aztec anyone?
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Quite close.
Tent unfolded.
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Adding this to my directives. If Iām ever seen sitting underneath a Pontiac Aztec tent in flip-flops, it means Iāve lost the will to live and life supporting measures should be halted. Primarily removing my available oxygen supply via pillow suffocation.
Why so mean? Donāt be the bully! Thatās just a random camper dudeā¦ What happened that you get PTSD because of flip-flopsā¦?
Frankly he looks like heās thriving. Iām happy for him
Why you gotta be such a a grumpy douche?
New plan baby. New Pontiac Aztec planā¦
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This one looks like a fleshlight. Where can I find dye bleach?
It was supposed to be eye bleach but Iām keeping the typo, itās an interesting one.
Iām guessing the dragons fucking cars community didnāt migrate over to lemmy yet
Still, whatās the point of this kind of tent vs a regular one?
The Rivian that was announced a few days ago has a nice feature, rear seats and the two front ones all fold flat so that it can fit a twin air mattress in the cabin. That seems a better solution than ā¦ whatever the fuck this is.
$3000 is way too much for a tarp stapled to the back of an overpriced pile of shit
Just get a real tent or sleep in your car. Why the fuck would you ever want to half ass both?
That moonroof sure makes stargazing comfy
Why the bad 80s SciFi look? Itās so ugly.
Iām not like the other CEOs
Iāll stick with my Transit camper build, thanks.
The Cyber truck is like the Pontiac Aztecās special ed electrically charged cousin.
When I read the headline, I thought it was talking about a thing to park your Cybertruck under so it wouldnāt rust.
This is only slightly less stupid.
This thing somehow keeps getting worse
Stop preordering unreleased things.
Donāt preorder games or unreleased cars.
The āpreordersā for the truck were $250 and were refundable. They basically just held your spot in line and allowed you the option to order at a certain time.
Also, I could be wrong, but I donāt think you could preorder the tent.
The article at least implies there were changes between the time you could buy and the time they were shipping.
It said it changed since the Cybertruck reveal in 2019, and when then tent arrived for sale 3 months ago, it was different than the original reveal concept.
I donāt believe you were able to preorder the tent during the reveal. You could only reserve an order spot for the truck, and you could back out of that reservation if you changed your mind.
If you didnāt like changes that were made to the truck or the accessories between reveal and launch, you could totally get your $250 back and walk over to the Rivian store.
The way it said:
(Emphasis mine) made me think it got worse after the design changes at sale time, but maybe I misinterpreted it.
Here are the press shots from when it was announced for sale at the of end last year. Theyāre the press shots theyāre still using to promote the product 3 months later.
expeditionportal.com/tesla-launches-the-cybertrucā¦
The article is basically saying that when the tent was announced for sale, the design changed and it was much less exciting than the early concepts. Some people bought them anyway, fully knowing that they were no longer something with stainless steel sides.
Now that they have arrived, the reality of the lacklusterness has now really set in.
Got it, thanks!
I need to understand why people still keep giving that man money. Willingly. Itās mind boggling.
I donāt either. People love being shit on I guess. Itās what makes huge companies like Apple and Tesla so popular.
Apple makes some really stupid products that they charge ridiculous money for and their usual stuff is more expensive than it needs to be but at least their core products are of very good quality. The same cannot be said of Tesla
Good quality but still overpriced. You pay for the brand name.
Good quality but still overpriced. You pay for the brand name.
It must be because not everyone follows him around like us on reddit/Lemmy. I think this sort of thing is not reported in mainstream news. So the average person is barely aware of who Elon Musk even is.
It really is.
Iām just amazed anyone would buy the truck, let alone a $3k tent for it.
Just tattoo idiot on your forehead. At least youād still have most of your money.
They like being scammed pretty much.
Ego dream marketing. Same as any people buying SUVs after seeing an advertisement with a handsome business man in a suite with a big watch driving across the Alpes.
Lol for real, I was thinking just that when I watched the Charger EV commercial.
But then theyāre taking off from a traffic light in the Chicago suburbs which at least straightens out the somewhat rough idle that the check engine tape didnāt really fix and the glovebox falls open for the third time that day due to another pothole. Turns out the 20" wheels from the spirit package were wasted money on top of wasted money.
Le piez de mierdance!
For $3,000? What a kick in the teeth!
$3,000 will get you a really nice regular tent
Why spend it on a tiny little swag that sits on your ute back, I can do that already lol
Depending on your requirements (e.g. are you planning on camping in hardcore places or just regular spots in fair weather), you could get not only the tent but all the rest of the camping gear as well for that price.
If youāre taking that shitty truck, from early reports, you arenāt going to anywhere hardcore. Maybe the park down the street.
You can get a good tent for $50, or a tarp and some rope for $30. You can get all your camping stuff for $1000. Less is more with camping.
That walmart tent you buy for 50 aint a good tent, and will either leak like a sieve in the rain, or be so unbreathable as to become an unlivable humidity drenched hotbox from your perspiration and body heat.
www.amazon.com/ā¦/B019N9W6EQ
These will last 20 years. They havenāt even changed the design.
Also, why are you camping in crazy ass weather? Like I said, a tarp is even cheaper and better when itās hot.
Weather is a thing that happens when youāre outdoors.
Camping is not living outdoors permanently. You can choose the dates that you are outside and the place you go, so you can choose the weather too.
Sometimes people go for more than a single day, or you book weeks in advance and have to deal with whatever shit weather you get.
Weather can also suddenly change over a single day.
Especially camping up in the mountains, the weather can change real fast. But Iām not gonna let a little rain stop me, thatās why tents have footprints and rain covers.
I have the 2 person version of that tent. Itās me through down pours and wind. The only thing more expensive tents have is easy of set up and tear down.
I know. This other dude doesnāt. Expensive camping gear is just lighter by a few oz. Just carry less.
You can certainly get a decent one for <$300 though. Which is an order of magnitude less than $3000.
Ok, but likeā¦ Youāre talking about people whoād waste money on buying a ācyberā truck in the first place. At that point itās like people buying Apple products; itās less about having the best possible version of the thing and more about having something from Tesla/Musk.
500 dollars will get you a really nice regular tent.
3000 will get you a fucking glampers dream setup.
"ha ha, suckers"
Elon Musk
I'm a little sad the new VW van doesn't have a Westfalia trim. Those pop up campers were great: Stove, fridge, sink, table, and it sleeps four. Plus with a tailwind you might hit 55.
Thatās like Bethesda fallout backpack levels of quality
It does literally compare it to that whole debacle in the article
It does? I didnāt see that anywhere
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Honestly, I didnāt see that whole controversy when it happened and I just looked it up. The final, actually canvas, bag they ended up sendingā¦still seems like a huge ripoff. But thatās just me and Iāve never really seen anything but the monster factory episodes of fallout.
Yeah the whole thing was a sham. So glad I usually buy games after 1 year and on sale.
Same. I gotta update my console though. I bought an Xbox X or S, whichever is the cheaper of the two. And I donāt play many games. Literally like two. RDR2 and fifa. Used to play GTA V but Iām over it. Getting there with rdr2. But I wanted to play the new resident evil 4 remake but itās ānot optimized for this console.ā
But now all this talk about PlayStation 5 āreaching the sunset of its careerā or whatever Sony said recently and then the whole Microsoft maybe bailing on the Xbox thing, I feel like if I sink the money into a new console soon, Iāll just be getting into another situation where all the things I might want to try are for the NEWER console. I dunno, Iām not a huge gamer, but I still enjoy playing.
I never liked consoles. Even less when they started charging for online play. Like vitch I already bought the fucking game. Let me play it.
I think the worst part is they gave streamers and influencers the actual promised canvas bag. That shows someone made this shitty decision and knew it was shitty.
I had the exact same thought, and was about to make the same post
āOh god, its the Fallout preorder bags 2: electric car boogalooā
I have one of those 76 ācanvasā (vinyl) bags sitting around somewhere. Anytime somebody I know gets excited about a new Bethesda game, I just send them a picture of it and tell them that Iāve got a great bag to sell them.
Can I see the Pic of the bag?
Oooh, me too.
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It feels a lot like one of those bags you get at a con for free, or a jacket that youād get off of a cheap Chinese website like Alibaba or Temu. That cheap woven plastic type of material.
Thatās even worse than I was expecting
I wasnāt surprised that they cheaped out on the bag, most collectorās edition stuff isnāt what Iād call āhigh qualityā and a canvas bag on its own would be pretty pricey for collectorās edition stuff (and that game came with like a full-size helmet and stuff too), but I was really surprised at just how cheap they went. Thereās replacing the item with a cheaper alternative, and then thereās lowest bidder from the sweatshops cheap.
Didnāt a lot of them show up moldy, too?
That does sound familiar, but I donāt remember enough to say for sure one way or the other. Mine was fine, just cheap junk and not canvas.
Actual bagholder lmao
Literally. Itās like owning a piece of video game history like one of the cartridges of ET for the Atari - a shitty piece of video game history about the greed of companies.
I feel like relentless bullying is in this truckās ownerās future.
Hefty! Hefty! Hefty! Wimpy, Wimpy, Wimpy!
Hey. Iām also old!
Remember when they introduced the hefty hefty cinch sack?
The FLEX!
What do Tesla fans expect at this point? Every product is made as cheaply as possible and sold on marketing bullshit.
When you order your ugly truck tent from Wish
They bought the car in the first place, which waives their right to complain in my opinion.
I actually do care that a company is violating advertisment laws and I hope each and every person gets their money back. Owning something I dislike isnāt enough for me to ignore the wrongdoings of a company.
Didnāt the guy at the helm recently say āgo fuck yourselfā to other kind of people giving him money too? Just sayin
Ha ha ha ha! Now that itās some complete shit right there!
Adam Something has an infallible equation that explains all of this kind of stuff: rich asshole + stupid idea with tons of nice CGI renders = dumb shit
I could literally do better myself.
Source: Iām just a guy on the Internet.
Holy shit this had me laughing hard. Someone paid $3k for that shit? š
This is what happens when you let billionaire leeches like Elon make decisions rather than real engineers.
This is proveably true since Rivian offers similar gear and those actually work. And they didnāt reinvent the wheel so existing truck tents just work.
Wait, 3k? My $50 tent is better and larger.
easier to setup and will probably last longer.
Definitely does not have the Steve Jobs talent
The guy single-handedly moved IT from astronomy to astrology in the eyes of masses, thank God heās dead.
Idk, he is still managing to sell way overpriced versions of existing tech to people. Albeit much less polished. His main mistake is exposing himself as an idiot at every opportunity, rather than keeping the mystique to make it seem cool.
Cāmon, Tesla. Pontiac had this shit figured out almost 25 years ago with the Aztek. This isnāt difficult.
āWeāre sorry that you arenāt happy with the tent. The tent shown in the media was a prototype and was too expensive to make. We arenāt planning on doing anything about it.ā
Do you really think theyād get a reply, and not the usual poop emoji?
Thatās the famous honest bethesda support reply to giving a cheap nylon carrying bag with a special edition of fallout 76 instead of a high quality canvas one
OK Elon, thank you! How much money do you need next? No need to tell me for what. Just let me send you some money.
Light wood laminate!
These idiots just line up to be grifted publicly and then willingly drive around advertising that they are broken trash people. Never stop ridiculing these chuds
A theory I follow is that Musk got hold of some findom customer lists and built his customer base from those. His customers love getting financially fucked by that guy.
I finally saw one of these ugly things (the truck), down in Miami a few days ago.
You can see the awful, misaligned panel gaps in those photos.
And here I was thinking all of Elonās fanboys carry a permanent tent anyway?
The actual product bows at the top. Their entire back half of the truck is flat, wouldnāt a lightweight hardtop would be a much better choice over tent poles across the roof?
Especially if theyāre going for looks.
It would be easier to match the angle of the open tent to that of the front of the truck. (Although even the render doesnāt match it, so maybe they want the extra angle).
They already lose several inches in horizontal space, they could fit a metal prop in there as a redundancy to support the top.
Could add a large plexiglass tinted window in the hardtop.
It would look a lot better when closed into the bed.
Ebben Eastern Germany had a better solution: vezess2.p3k.hu/app/uploads/ā¦/trabi-700x467.jpg
If it cost like $75 max thatās within realms of sensibility. If I bought that thing for 3000 Iād probably die from embarrassment. Itās like an advertisement for how gullible you are.
I mean, these people did already buy cybertrucksā¦
Well to be honest, the advertised tent looks like Snow Whiteās Coffin to meā¦
I guess if you were going for that post-apocalyptic mad max vibe the cybertruck offers then this is the perfect accessory!
Really looks like someone made a makeshift shelter out of trash bags over the shell of a wrecked old shitty truck.
Its a continuing mystery to me why people want these vehicle-integrated tents. If you want to go into town for a burrito, you have to break down your camp. If parking is only by the road thatās where you sleep. If parking isnāt level you arenāt sleeping level. Your tent is exposed to road dirt and water all the time. They are way more expensive than a regular tent. They are locked in to one vehicle. They make your gas mileage worse. They are hard to install and remove.
If you could have HVAC in the tent then ok. But sounds like that isnāt a thing here either.
Well I have a hard shell RTT (Autohome) that I love. Gets me off of the ground on a memory foam mattress and itās well insulated. Very little hit to mileage. Iāve used it on my Jeep Rubicon and now on my Rivian R1S. Takes less than 2 minutes to pop up and I donāt have to worry about wild animals (I camp in bear/mountain lion territory).
But I agree this thing is ridiculous. I read someone else called it a Cyberdiaper lol.
I donāt get the truck bed tents, personally. I guess they might have their use cases for hunters or something who are taking their truck out to the woods anyway, crashing overnight, and getting up at the crack of dawn to shoot Bambi and go home. Or something. But otherwise I donāt see the appeal over just using a regular old tent, which will be both cheaper and considerably more versatile or doing as we used to do and just put a cap on your truck, and throw an air mattress in the back. The cap-and-mattress plan also has the advantage of not needing an actual camp site or anywhere to even put down stakes for a fly; you can just stop in any damn fool sandy/muddy/rocky/wet/paved location you like and there you go.
I almost bought a rooftop tent a few years ago. I was in Snoqualmie in the pouring rain at dusk, because Seattle, just crashing there after driving across the country before moving on the next morning. The guy at the site next to me rocked up with an Xterra with a rooftop tent on it and just folded the thing out and climbed in. Meanwhile I was out there getting drenched working on hammering my tent stakes into the damn hard packed clinker they dump all over the camp sites there. At that exact moment I did not hate any person on earth more than I hated that motherfucker and his rooftop tent.
lol, wowā¦š
Over-promise and under-deliver, that is the tesla way.
100%. That has been exactly my experience. Thereās no question itās a good car, but they always manage to set higher expectations than what they are capable of delivering. You canāt help but feel disappointed even though you have a great EV. Itās really soured me on the whole brand. I would never buy another one.
Ok Honda, you see it right? 2025 Honda Element would absolutely dust this trash.
Clearly thereās been a market segment since 2011 that still wants it so cāmon.
This cybertruck feels like it would be such visual pollution on campgrounds and stuff.
Itās visual pollution anywhere. I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone finds that style appealing to begin with.
I had one of these for my Avalanche, it cost $200.
Looks like Elon accidentally added a zero to his price tag and everyone just kinda accepted it.
I donāt want a cybertruck and I think Elon is an ass, but it would pretty cool if you had a tent like this that didnāt suck on a truck that wasnāt stupid and you could hook the tent up to the climate control and have it vented through the tent. Like, winter camping, toasty warm, summer camping, nice and cool. That would be pretty baller. Is that a thing already?
Sounds like an RV
There are a few different options that Iāve seen. Thereās a tent that comes out of the back of an SUV to allow airflow and a bit of extra room. Thereās also a normal sort of dome tent that zips around the hatch of an SUV, making your vehicle into an extra room of the tent, or maybe vice versa.
At what point does it become cheaper to just have a W-2 menial stand around you with an umbrella?
Oof
The Pontiac Aztec has risen from the dead.