China Halts Critical Rare Earth Exports as Trade War Intensifies. (www.nytimes.com)
from Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 21:08
https://programming.dev/post/28566093

Beijing has suspended exports of certain rare earth minerals and magnets that are crucial for the world’s car, semiconductor and aerospace industries.

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just_another_person@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 21:14 next collapse

More like “Fart and Then Squeal” amirite?

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 13 Apr 21:42 next collapse

The fact they where supplying foreign militaries in the first place is hilarious.

as far as magnets are concerned there are better designs out there that are not being pursued because neodymium is so much easier.

So much of the modern world is built on what is easiest not what could be better if we put in the least little bit of effort.

AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml on 13 Apr 22:19 next collapse

Because anything that isn’t easiest isn’t profitable

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 23:52 next collapse

and profit is more important than everything; including quality of life and national security!

AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 01:08 collapse

Now you’re catching on!

Korhaka@sopuli.xyz on 14 Apr 09:03 collapse

Not always isn’t profitable, just isn’t as profitable.

AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 09:55 collapse

Well sure.

But when the lowest-hanging fruit is all harvested, reaching for the next available thing requires investment and so quarterly profits start dropping. Once the investments have been paid for, profits will never come back to where they were previously so it’s always diminishing returns

SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee on 14 Apr 10:42 collapse

Yes and since the advent of the smart phone I haven’t seen any tangible evidence the next “thing” is here for them to dump money into. (Tangible, not software based)

AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 10:57 collapse

Exactly this!

They’re pretending it’s AI, or cryptocurrency, but neither has any use case that anybody wants or needs aside from money laundering and homework cheating

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 09:04 collapse

as far as magnets are concerned there are better designs out there that are not being pursued because neodymium is so much easier.

Like what?

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 14 Apr 09:28 collapse

yeah, I noticed I just said magnets like other permanent magnets could be better or something ...

Thanks for calling me on this.

I was talking about motors and Induction isn't in fact explicitly better. I think they could be if we have no other choice but to throw research at them but for right now there have fairly equal trade offs.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 09:34 collapse

Well, i hoped there were more effective materials/mixes around with less reliance on rare earth, since i’m not that into magnetic science.

simbico@lemmy.zip on 14 Apr 14:22 collapse

Would you say you ate not attracted to magnetism?

52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org on 13 Apr 22:08 next collapse

From what I understand, China’s exports of rare earths have been largely a part of finished components and that’s not been suspended.

themurphy@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 08:29 next collapse

True, but this changes the world dynamic much more than we’d think.

Before China would sell materials and other countries would have factories to produce products from them.

Now, China can move the production into their own country, selling their products without the middleman, but still keep the prices up.

Factories shut down in the rest of the world and open in China. They now control the full product from material to the product sale.

52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Apr 16:11 collapse

I could be wrong but my impression was that this is how it already is for goods containing rare earths. That they are already manufactured largely in China and China exports them and that there’s no ban on finished products containing rare earths.

Kroxx@lemm.ee on 14 Apr 12:30 collapse

Work in an industry that uses raw RE oxides to produce medical equipment.

We are fucking toast if these tariffs and restrictions are kept.

You literally can’t get some of these REs anywhere else in the world as in the natural abundance is literally only in china.

What you said is correct I imagine but some of the REs are utilized in a raw format in us based plants.

qx128@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 22:12 next collapse

That’s what Xi said.

Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca on 13 Apr 22:23 next collapse

I WANT OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE

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andrewrgross@slrpnk.net on 13 Apr 23:49 next collapse

Wow!

That’s good world building.

TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee on 14 Apr 00:03 next collapse

Holy shit.

Life imitates art.

Usually it’s the other way around.

CosmoNova@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 06:24 next collapse

Wait until you hear about a little game called Fallout…

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I WANT OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE

For the lucky 10,000:

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Shortstack@reddthat.com on 14 Apr 10:57 collapse

Holy hell, thank you for posting that

I’ve never seen that one before. My sides hurt

MisterMoo@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 05:59 collapse

Donald Trump is a self-inflicted wound.