criss_cross@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 15:37
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In fairness I don’t see a lot of Twitter links in general here with or without a ban. Most people use xcancel when they have to and have no other option.
IMO a ban here would be more symbolic than effective.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 02:22
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Kinda wild to me it took this long but I’m not going to be mad about doing the right thing.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:35
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That would be good for Lemmy.
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:38
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Can’t musk simply state that naziism is wrong and hitler was a very bad guy?
That’s right of coarse he can!
HHHMMM!
parody@lemmings.world
on 23 Jan 2025 07:03
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Why?!
Le epic 14 y/o troll mAStEr mOvE was doing the worst nonverbal political thing one can do and getting away with it without apologizing.
The centrists accept it might have been inadvertent. He’d never have the lefties anyway and the far right will, of course, absolutely love it. It’s the kind of thing a kid in shoes of power might dream up and run by the team and all have fits of laughter: “they can’t prove anything if you don’t say anything!”
/fiction /conspiracytheory
Nice way to commemorate the Jan 6ers’ prison release. And great distraction, as it must be.
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 12:11
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No I mean if you disagree with what nazis did, you will never have a problem saying exactly that. Whether it’s to clear up a misunderstanding or for any other reason. Rejecting nazis has nothing to do with being edgy or being right or wrong in a debate. It’s a simple idea that can be said at anytime.
Majorllama@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 02:25
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Yeah that’ll show him. I’m sure he’s gonna lose a ton of sleep over the miniscule amount of traffic that’s going to drop for his shitty website that he bought and drove into the ground.
Wait actually he cares way too much about how people view him so it might actually bother him a ton. It’s hard to say really.
Either way stop using Twitter and reddit. Both terrible.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
on 23 Jan 2025 08:20
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And block all their domains/IP ranges too. People really need to understand how third party tracking works.
Nah, they’re not big on non-compliance. So consider an uprising. Spez wants to play with a big oligarchs, he won’t take a chance on pissing anyone off.
Ste41th@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 02:58
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Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 05:00
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THATS what spez looks like??? I was expecting some corporate looking lawyer type face. This is more like that incel who repulsed girls in high school, and is now in his 40s…but still very much the same person.
gwilikers@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 05:14
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Please don’t insult pigs by comparing them to that cunt.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 05:19
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He’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you it doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.
atomicorange@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 07:04
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He looks like Zuckerberg fucked Ellen DeGeneres.
downhomechunk@midwest.social
on 23 Jan 2025 13:07
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This is what my eyes will see from this day forward.
I’m sure there’s other stuff for you to be offended about though.
nekbardrun@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:46
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Sorry, I wasn’t aware it was a reference to jaws.
I’ll retract my previous comment then.
Thanks for pointing it out :)
Bassman1805@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 06:08
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Even wearing super cyclical goggles, it doesn’t make sense for reddit to intervene here. Twitter is a competitor, why would they want to encourage people to link to a competitor?
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
on 23 Jan 2025 12:20
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legacy social media
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 13:19
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cyclical goggles
The goggles, they keep spinning!
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jan 2025 13:48
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If they have a data sharing agreement, I can think of a few rea$on$.
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network
on 07 Feb 2025 13:17
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Not a competitor, fascism. And because the US government passed them a few million to do so.
PunnyName@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:16
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Holy shit. I made the mistake of looking in there. What a festering pile of misinformed louts. There’s not a brain cell to be found in there.
pivot_root@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 04:19
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Or, apparently, introspectiveness…
Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them. They think they don’t need to believe anything other than the media tells them. One of the things the media tells them is they are superior to others, and it gets into their heads.
Kettle meet pot?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 05:05
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Uhhhhhhhhh, gotta say, I’ve never once heard NPR tell me that we’re special or privilaged, or above the law. Or even should be.
Meanwhile our current president is a 34x convicted criminal and sexual predator.
…although to be fair, the democrats also had a sexual predator in the 60s (twice), and the 90s.
But I can’t recall any democrat running on the platform of “we’re better than them”.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 12:43
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Wait, Wait Don’t Tell Me would poke fun at their audience for being the type to sniff their own farts. I haven’t listened in a while, but I assume they still do.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
on 23 Jan 2025 06:10
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You have just seen an Eldritch Abomination (-10 Sanity)
thisguy1092@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:17
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Who cares
Lemminary@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:21
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I get it, why give him any attention. But this is not about him–it’s about the protest this time. That’s fine by me, let’s get people going!
Lemminary@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:19
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Good idea. We should do this here.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 05:03
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Assume a single instance should be able to do this no? If so, kind of sad that I don’t think any have that I am aware of.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 05:07
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/c/Playstation has, and lemmy.world has asked users if they should as a sticky.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 05:23
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Would much prefer users and instance admins to have better filtering tools.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 13:55
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Wait until some Trump loyalist brownshirt calls pigboy.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 15:12
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I give them a week before they change their minds
danc4498@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 11:54
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Why would the owners of Reddit care about twitter?
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 15:19
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It’s either the power mods or the admins who decide how content gets censored on reddit. Which one is worse?
K1nsey6@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:29
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Fucking preformative liberals, instead of attacking the systems of exploitation that harm the community they virtue signal for they focus on the temporarily manufactured villains.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:37
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If you can’t have everything, you’d prefer nothing? Isn’t that the same logic that got us a second trump term?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:40
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No the logic that got us a second trump term is “we can move as far to the right as we want, and as long as we’re second worst, people will have no choice but to vote for us.”
candy_colors@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:43
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I mean, both of u are right
seven_phone@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:47
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No again, what got Trump elected was a complacency that the population was at heart clear thinking and aware of the exploits of the world.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 04:10
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Incrementalists learn like they do anything else: they fucking don’t.
I’m arguing liberals have the memory of a goldfish and will forget it the next time something else comes up. This is #resist 2.0, purely performative.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
on 23 Jan 2025 06:14
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Still better than nothing. I don’t see how complaining about a good thing gets us anywhere. And also it screams bad mental health. You ok, bro?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 10:33
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Got it, there’s no point in ever fighting them since we might not fight them at some unspecified point in the future, we should just all welcome and embrace Nazis. Thanks for letting us know how to move forward.
We are currently living in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World where even the mention of breaking free from the chains is met with resistance. Liberals would rather dose their Soma than allow meaningful change to happen.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 13:10
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Yes, we already established that you think everyone should give up and walk willingly into the camps. Where do we meet you?
No one said give up anything, liberals are fighting the wrong things. They fight manufactured villains instead of the system that created them. They are repeating 2016 all over
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 14:56
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You literally said this:
I’m arguing liberals have the memory of a goldfish and will forget it the next time something else comes up. This is #resist 2.0, purely performative.
Sure as hell sounds like give up and stop fighting to me. If not, what would you suggest people do other than berate random strangers on the internet? Because I can tell that’s something you’re way into, but I do not see what it helps anything other than boosting your own ego.
Because it is performative, they are incapable of connecting the dots on multiple issues because they never stay connected long enough to get the larger picture. They focus on small issues like this and ignore the core of this problems, either willingly or ignorantly.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 15:31
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Again: what would you suggest people do other than berate random strangers on the internet?
It’s okay, I know you won’t actually answer. People like you never do.
You dont have a point because you feel that what you are doing is correct method. That arrogant hubris is why we now have open Nazis in power
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:01
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You are right. Asking the person who says that they are not suggesting people give up what they should do instead of giving up is what I feel is the correct method.
But feel free at any time to say what people should do if not either give up or berate people on the internet.
I know you won’t because it’s clear you have no idea.
Yuper@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 03:41
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What’s “X”? Is that p0rn or something?
chaosCruiser@futurology.today
on 23 Jan 2025 04:28
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Imagine you had a relationship that turned out toxic, and then you decided to protect yourself by severing it. Later, when you even hear about X, your heart is filled with negative emotions, and you realize you need to move on.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 05:01
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chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de
on 23 Jan 2025 03:45
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Wow, “super effective” now the big boss of neo-fascism is in trouble with this. We will now beat them. Next week no one will talk about it anymore
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 05:11
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So, your stratagy is nukes or go home? You just want one decisive move to win, otherwise why bother?
When a baby is born it doesn’t just run out of the womb and poop in a toilet. First it slides out. Many months later it starts crawling. Then slowly walking. Then walking. Then running. Then potty training. THEN it can run to a toilet to poop.
But by your logic, oh well, can’t run to a toilet on day 1. Best just not to be born.
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 23 Jan 2025 03:54
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I wonder how long their corporate overlords will allow this to continue.
Aeri@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 04:31
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Nythos@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 07:34
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Some Lemmy communities already have.
I’ve seen that the Playstation and Nintendo communities have both banned it recently.
stardust@lemmy.ca
on 23 Jan 2025 06:02
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Twitter probably benefits from people being redirected to their site from repostings with how it has become the go to source for news like sports, so it might. Won’t hurt Elon financially but less people being exposed to the content there that Elon wants to push that don’t actively use Twitter is a good thing even if it is only a few.
Even small moves is a good thing with how over the years sports and game submissions have become increasingly more Twitter submissions.
Twitters value has already been going down the shitter thanks to shit leadership, this is just another nail.
kazerniel@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 14:23
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The less its posts are shared, the less its relevance is to the world. I can’t see that as a bad thing. It always baffled me how outsize Twitter’s influence was on world events/news while having 1/5th the active userbase of Facebook.
absquatulate@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 06:29
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Wow, leave it to redditors to make change without actually making change. A few of those subs had open discussions on instituting a ban and they discovered x links were in the dozens per year. Musk is definitely gonna feel that. What they should have done is ban all twitter images as well, those fuckers make up 3/4 of posts on /r/popular. Or ban/restrict musk news, because it feels like the remainng 1/4 posts are “news” that cover musk, including dozens of discussions on whether the nazi cheated in fucking videogames or not ( same as here come to think of it ). But no, they’re addicted to those and unable to make meaningful changes, so they’re left with these halfcocked “bans”.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 06:30
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Aaaand here come the admins to relentlessly bully any mods involved in this into submission. Because the reddit admins are pathetic, greedy little pig boys who don’t give a flying shit about their users or moderators.
daggermoon@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 07:18
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Remember last time Redditor’s protested only to cave so they could keep being mods? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
CluckN@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 10:11
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Yeah let’s see if they keep this up. In a few weeks they’ll cave in and say, “Well we want to keep people informed”.
Spezi@feddit.org
on 23 Jan 2025 10:51
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I was the founder of r/TIHI in a past life and u/spez removed all of us moderators because we weren‘t opening the sub as part of our protest.
I them requested them to take down the subs title picture and logo which I created and they didn‘t even bother.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee
on 23 Jan 2025 15:18
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Thank you for your service
daggermoon@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 19:17
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A redditor of quality, you have my respect.
Pyro@programming.dev
on 25 Jan 2025 03:02
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Eezyville@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 13:18
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Does Reddit have some sort of contract with X with regards to sharing of content? I know they have one with OpenAI.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 17:02
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This is a bit different from before. They aren’t privating the subs this time, they’re just doing their unpaid full time job by disallowing posts with untrusted sources.
I remember and that’s why I’m here reading your comment
🫡
magic_lobster_party@fedia.io
on 23 Jan 2025 07:37
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Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them.
That projection.
My first reaction when seeing the salute was ” oh come on, it can’t be that bad… oh it’s way worse than I thought”
stardust@lemmy.ca
on 23 Jan 2025 11:36
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I laughed when he did it twice as if just to emphasize the first one wasn’t a mistake.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Jan 2025 16:49
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Supports far right movement in Germany, says they are the only way to fix Germany.
Agrees with Jewish people being anti white-
““Jewish communties [sic] have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.”
The billionaire owner and CTO of X, formerly Twitter, responded the same evening: “You have said the actual truth.””
Does NAZI salutes on a national platform.
People in denial: “I’m sure it was a mistake”
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jan 2025 13:50
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I don’t think it was a mistake, I think it was more, “lol, let’s see what the media says about that!!” They made a spectacle of him jumping on stage at the campaign trail, so I truly think he did that to troll a bit.
He’s a real life Bruce Wayne, but without the Batman bit.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 12:01
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Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them.
That projection.
As they mindlessly repeat whatever they just saw linked on “onlyrealpatriots.info.biz” from Facebook.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:07
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I mean if you only saw and read Reddit during the last election campaign, you’d be ABSOLUTELY sure at the first half of the campaign that Biden was going to win, might as well don’t have an election at that point
And then, after Kamala got into the campaign, again, if you only saw and read Reddit, you’d be, again, ABSOLUTELY sure that she would win, it wasn’t even a contest.
If reality were downvotes, upvotes or massive bans to users posting against the thread zeitgeist, yeah sure, that would be what happened.
Hard to accept reality after that harsh wakeup call
b3an@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 07:38
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If this is what it took they were just lazy before. This has been CLEARLY where he is pushing things for a long time now. Twitter is in the Xhitter.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 08:10
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To be fair, Reddit bans everyone for everything now
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 08:13
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Yeah, fuck Reddit. They are part of the problem.
WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 08:30
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why do they still show these kind of pictures of him. for me there is only one picture of him to show from now on
echodot@feddit.uk
on 23 Jan 2025 08:35
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Oh yes for the totally unproblematic picture taken at the inauguration, and since it’s so unproblematic he can’t possibly have an issue with it being posted.
Although a solid second favorite is him in a punk leather jacket. Mostly because he hates it.
downhomechunk@midwest.social
on 23 Jan 2025 13:05
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I would also accept the picture of him leaping 2" off the ground with both arms up and his belly showing.
sness@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jan 2025 15:29
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I still enjoy the edgy liberty pic and the balding one.
futatorius@lemm.ee
on 23 Jan 2025 08:57
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Most of the X links on Reddit just point to non-X content anyway, and are used by Reddit posters to circumvent subreddit policies on excluding dodgy sources. In other words they were using X as a shitty URL shortener.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 13:15
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Don’t do it as a “protest.” Do it as the new norm. Xitter has no worth and should be relegated to the porta-potty of time.
ATDA@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 14:09
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Meta, Twitter, now tiktok. BLATANTLY obvious coordination to propagandize social media.
Fuck then all, damn then to hell, scourge of modern society.
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 15:07
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I used to spend time on Facebook catching up with friends and family. That was way back in like 2010. I can’t stand that platform now. It’s all AI trash and random reels. I don’t even know why I’m getting some of these reels but I suspect they are sharing data with other platforms like YT. I miss the internet of the 2000s…
They all share data or buy it. Talk about some random shit near your phone they know. I do it for giggles now. Not sure what works as a trigger it but I’ve made my own advertising for workout equipment, dj tables, etc without searching any of it.
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Jan 2025 17:37
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Oh yeah. I get that too. I’m sitting here talking about the most random shit with my cousins and bam! Facebook got an ad for that.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 14:15
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And so begins the stun lock. Genius move actually with adversaries so predictable
conditional_soup@lemm.ee
on 23 Jan 2025 15:17
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In before reddit forces those subs to allow links to twitter.
airportline@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 15:17
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Lemmy instances should follow suit.
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 16:26
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I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 16:40
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Dbzer0 took a vote and will block it from their instance I believe
airportline@lemmy.ml
on 23 Jan 2025 16:45
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I just added it as a rule for the communities I moderate. I also set my Bluesky feeds to filter out X links.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jan 2025 13:44
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Disagree, but I also almost never follow them anyway. I pretty much only follow a link if I think it’s to a first party article or something.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:10
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De-centralized as long as you go with what I say…
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:47
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I’m not sure you understand what decentralized means.
airportline@lemmy.ml
on 24 Jan 2025 18:51
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You’re perfectly free to go on Lemmy instances that don’t have that as a rule.
How can you have been on Lemmy longer than me yet have such a fundamental misunderstanding of centralized/non-federated vs decentralized/federated?
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 23:51
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Here we go. If let’s just say all the instances came together and did the same ban because some hivemind mentality had taken over. It would metaphorically be centralized again. The chances of that happening-probably zero.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
on 25 Jan 2025 01:14
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I’ve thought that since they started locking almost everything behind a login
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jan 2025 13:04
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A more fractured internet is coming. Posting sources will be forbidden. Discourse will become more polarized, disconnected, and extreme.
Most of these Reddit bans on Twitter are also half assed. They still allow screenshots of Twitter posts. That means the content is still spread, and Twitter remains relevant.
Lots of these subreddits don’t even get a lot of Twitter links in the first place. Like for lotrmemes it makes zero difference.
That said, Musk and Twitter suck. I have deleted my Twitter account three years ago.
However there still is some information, where Twitter is a good source.
menemen@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 14:58
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If we like it or not, twitter is still the most important social network for journalisst and thinktankers.
shortrounddev@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 14:59
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Twitter has always been the red headed step child of social media. It had outsized cultural importance because most people consumed it via screenshot, not actually browsing the site. The reach of an individual twitter user is greatly augmented by their reach on other social platforms via screenshot
Saltycracker@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 17:28
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Your right it is where all the journalists post and Substack is a second. Which I can see Reddit banning. Probably not the best to get news from Reddit anymore.
11111one11111@lemmy.world
on 25 Jan 2025 01:31
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And sports. Sports alone is enough to drive Twitter.
Digital_Lemmy@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 15:56
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I feels like bizarro world if you fall somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum or don’t really care about politics. Seems their are only two extremes and you have to drink the cool-aid of whatever site you’re on or be suppressed. Whether you agree or disagree the push to ban twitter/x from all the sports subs was definitely a coordinated operation. Very troubling to me to see this kind of mass manipulation going on… these sports subs should have nothing to do with politics but maybe I’m the delusional one. I don’t know.
jim3692@discuss.online
on 24 Jan 2025 16:14
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That’s how protests work. Just because you are not affected, does not mean you should not participate. Any subreddit participating is probably trying to show they are anti-nazi, and/or they support the efforts of the others in the platform.
Of course it causes trouble for users, but sadly that’s what Twitter has become and it deserves this hate. None of this would have happened if Elon truly advocated for freedom of speech, instead of using his power to push his right-wing beliefs.
I am proud that there are still some mods in Reddit that take the risk of protesting. I was afraid they got removed on the previous Reddit protest, about pricing changes.
Adding to that, not caring about politics probably means going with the flow and not reacting. Which, in today’s capitalist world, usually means supporting big corporations by using their services, just because everyone else use them.
Digital_Lemmy@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:31
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If you are implying that the ignorant or unwilling should be forced participants in a protest, I would strongly disagree with that statement. I also am seeing a lot of rhetoric that not participating or simply not agreeing with a ban implies you are either a supporter of musk or Nazism… This sort of line in the sand statements are counterproductive, inflammatory, divisive and frankly ignorant.
There is no risk on reddit with such a protest considering the political lean. I don’t use twitter because I personally I hate the way conversations and ‘information’ is structured as well as the content. I don’t also don’t have an issue with subs/admins or even the whole platform banning twitter. What I do have are serious concerns about the mechanisms behind the ban and the further echo chambering of the site. To me, it’s better to have non quality info/sources available and downvote it than to just ban it.
kava@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:12
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However there still is some information, where Twitter is a good source.
I agree. There are some great OSINT posters that share all sorts of information you won’t find anywhere else. For example when Israel struck back at Iran after the initial wave of missiles and drones- it was a guy on twitter who geolocated and found the satellite images of what they hit.
And that information directly contradicted the Israeli official narrative. You won’t find it on NY Times. You won’t find it on Washington Post. Hell, you’d have a hard time finding it here or on reddit. That’s just one example, there’s a wealth of live data about Russia v Ukraine as well. One thing I’ve really learned the last 3 years since 2022 is that the mainstream media will completely lie to you. It isn’t just bias, it’s outright lying. So people online who are dedicated to the truth and provide receipts, I find, is a breath of fresh air. It allows humans without privileged information to go online and actually see with their own eyes what is happening on the ground. It’s something that frankly hasn’t been the case for any time in human history. Although I think it’s going to be a short window of time that will be true.
I think Twitter has progressively been becoming more censored. For now, most people are more or less ignored if you aren’t talking about the hot topics- but I think very soon anything against official US narrative will be banned. Same thing with Facebook, Tiktok, etc.
We’re seeing the social media sites align themselves with the US government in preparation for the next global war. The first thing to go in war is the truth. Soon there will be a giant firewall and we won’t be able to see content from overseas. Initially people will be able to use VPNs and other methods and then eventually that will be met with criminal charges.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Jan 2025 02:18
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mainstream media will completely lie to you
Mainstream media doesn’t care to research thoroughly and rarely have journalists who actually understand the topic they’re reporting on. It’s not lies, just superficial sloppy work mostly.
Journalists rarely dig through OSINT themselves. They will ask an Possibly biased expert who actually reads and is able to interpret OSINT. Then the journalist will only understand half and misunderstand another part. The cite some quotes from the expert that then make for an article with a clickbaity headline. Only if you‘re very lucky the journalist will review the OST themselves or even show the source directly in their reporting. It’s surprisingly rare that journalists speak the language of the country they’re reporting about.
Not all is great with OSINT, as it’s full of selection bias, rumors, unconfirmed information, and people with agendas.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
on 24 Jan 2025 16:45
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Lots of these subreddits don’t even get a lot of Twitter links in the first place. Like for lotrmemes it makes zero difference.
That’s not true. Gondor uses Twitter instead of beacons to call for aid now.
Digital_Lemmy@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 17:05
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I did see a sub called fullmoviesonyoutube or something where a mod soloed the ban. Pretty amusing to read the user comments in that one
patacon_pisao@lemmy.world
on 25 Jan 2025 01:43
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Most of these Reddit bans on Twitter are also half assed. They still allow screenshots of Twitter posts. That means the content is still spread, and Twitter remains relevant.
I wholeheartedly agree. I personally got fed up trying to make a new account recently where I got shadowbanned, where there’s accounts that steal posts from the past and repost them as new just to farm karma and they stay up despite bots detecting them as spam/reposts.
My point is if they’re looking to enforce something they should not do it in a half-assed way.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 15:30
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Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for information shared on social networks to be controlled, shutdown and people to be censored based on unknown and ambiguous criteria, without even understanding the implications of it.
Details at six
probably2high@lemm.ee
on 24 Jan 2025 15:53
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What does freedom of speech have to do with independent subreddits deciding they don’t want to serve content from a private company they don’t agree with?
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 24 Jan 2025 16:08
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That’s easy, freedom of speech means you can say what I want but not what you want, and it applies everywhere including in my dreams. So if you say something I don’t like in my dreams I can criminally charge you and take you to hell in a cell.
Edit: Thought this would be obvious satire, but here we are. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Freefall@lemmy.world
on 25 Jan 2025 00:55
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It’s easy if they have no idea what “freedom of speech” actually means and what it actually allows. The phrase at face value is nothing like the constitutionally protected action. They are too ignorant to know that.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:05
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100, I get more dislikes here than I ever did on Reddit.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 24 Jan 2025 16:09
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Downvotes are not a form of censorship.
Also, that sounds like a you problem, not an “us” problem.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:13
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I know downvotes aren’t censorship.
Not really, I saw the change happen in real time. I was on Twitter before it was run by Feds.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 17:51
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Weird tangent, but ok
kava@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:05
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Look, I’m all for freedom of speech. I’m nearly as close to an absolutist as they come.
This is an example of a protest. Nobody is restricting anybody’s speech. They aren’t banning Musk-supporters. They aren’t censoring Trumpers. They are specifically banning links to a website owned by a billionaire who did a Nazi salute at an event where hundreds of millions if not billions of people would witness him.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
on 24 Jan 2025 16:08
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He’s a nazi. There’s no space it civil society for nazis.
Saryn@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 16:32
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Not to worry, you’re simply confusing freedom of speech with obliging private actors to consume content they don’t want to consume or disagree with. The first is a fundemental principle of democratic legal systems and recognized as a perempotry norm under international law. The second is authoritarianism.
There’s a growing number of legally illiterate people who think freedom of speech is absolute and even affords one the right to oblige others consume their speech through the government. That is fundamentally wrong and a complete misunderstanding of how these key principles of freedom work and have always worked in modern democratic systems.
Newsflash - freedom of speech is not absolute. Never has been. There are very specific, explicitly codified limitations. Why? Because words are the most powerful weapons and can be used to target and threaten the freedoms of other people, including their freedom to life. Which is why rights and obligations are always balanced against each other, following the principle of proportionality.
If you feel so strongly about not being able force others to consume content they don’t want to consume, then I have bad news for you - you are opposing democracy. But it seems like you, and many other like you, are just confused, rather than actively promoting anti-democratic standpoints. The truly sad part? The impact is the same regardless of intent.
Edit: Want to know more? Details at 6.
Digital_Lemmy@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 17:59
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It’s so typical to see 90% good argument and 10% insult the OP & half the country. If believers stuck to the 90% good argument and left out the insults you’d win a lot of followers.
Saryn@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 18:28
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I don’t want any followers or believers. Calling it as I see it. That is all.
Freefall@lemmy.world
on 25 Jan 2025 01:01
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The sky is blue and I think OP is a moron.
The second part doesn’t make the first untrue, it also doesn’t make it an ad hominem argument.
Half the voters(not country) are a bunch of gullible clowns and calling them out is just an observation.
stardust@lemmy.ca
on 24 Jan 2025 17:58
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Existence of mods goes against the concept of freedom of speech. People aren’t prevented from directly using Twitter themselves. They’d be on 4chan if they wanted something as close to an unfiltered internet.
We wouldn’t be on our respective instances that have blocked off entire instances and communities if we wanted to consume unfiltered internet content.
LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world
on 25 Jan 2025 02:05
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Wat
arararagi@ani.social
on 24 Jan 2025 17:18
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I saw it from the monster hunter community, now you can’t post the source of a fanart lol.
_stranger_@lemmy.world
on 24 Jan 2025 17:31
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Might get more artists to move to Bluesky at least
jol@discuss.tchncs.de
on 24 Jan 2025 17:39
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You can always leave their @handle if you want to credit them. Most artists also have other channels. If they only have X… Well sucks to be them but it’s thteir choice.
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Those are rookie numbers!
They are still on reddit
To befair the only lemmy community I’ve seen thats blocked X is /c/Playstation.
So reddit still has 49 more than we do.
I think vegan did. Not sure if thats on .world though
lemmy.world/post/24565936
or !vegan@lemmy.world
Edit: I am still confused about linking, sorry.
In fairness I don’t see a lot of Twitter links in general here with or without a ban. Most people use xcancel when they have to and have no other option.
IMO a ban here would be more symbolic than effective.
Kinda wild to me it took this long but I’m not going to be mad about doing the right thing.
He’s going to buy reddit now. Lmao.
That would be good for Lemmy.
Can’t musk simply state that naziism is wrong and hitler was a very bad guy?
That’s right of coarse he can!
HHHMMM!
Why?!
Le epic 14 y/o troll mAStEr mOvE was doing the worst nonverbal political thing one can do and getting away with it without apologizing.
The centrists accept it might have been inadvertent. He’d never have the lefties anyway and the far right will, of course, absolutely love it. It’s the kind of thing a kid in shoes of power might dream up and run by the team and all have fits of laughter: “they can’t prove anything if you don’t say anything!”
/fiction /conspiracytheory
Nice way to commemorate the Jan 6ers’ prison release. And great distraction, as it must be.
No I mean if you disagree with what nazis did, you will never have a problem saying exactly that. Whether it’s to clear up a misunderstanding or for any other reason. Rejecting nazis has nothing to do with being edgy or being right or wrong in a debate. It’s a simple idea that can be said at anytime.
Yeah that’ll show him. I’m sure he’s gonna lose a ton of sleep over the miniscule amount of traffic that’s going to drop for his shitty website that he bought and drove into the ground.
Wait actually he cares way too much about how people view him so it might actually bother him a ton. It’s hard to say really.
Either way stop using Twitter and reddit. Both terrible.
And block all their domains/IP ranges too. People really need to understand how third party tracking works.
Nah, they’re not big on non-compliance. So consider an uprising. Spez wants to play with a big oligarchs, he won’t take a chance on pissing anyone off.
Fuck Reddit and X
tbf it’s the users of Reddit and they’re doing the right thing
Waiting for Spez to weigh in with his typical subtlety and even-handedness… 🍿
And start banning mods who don’t support Musk and Nazism, wholeheartedly.
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THATS what spez looks like??? I was expecting some corporate looking lawyer type face. This is more like that incel who repulsed girls in high school, and is now in his 40s…but still very much the same person.
Such a punchable face.
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Don’t forget that he used to be a moderator of r/jailbait
TIL… what a fucking douche
He looks like a greedy little pig boy
Dude, read about the guy. He is such a massive fucking chode.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Huffman
Please don’t insult pigs by comparing them to that cunt.
He’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you it doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.
He looks like Zuckerberg fucked Ellen DeGeneres.
This is what my eyes will see from this day forward.
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They were quoting Jaws.
I’m sure there’s other stuff for you to be offended about though.
Sorry, I wasn’t aware it was a reference to jaws.
I’ll retract my previous comment then.
Thanks for pointing it out :)
Even wearing super cyclical goggles, it doesn’t make sense for reddit to intervene here. Twitter is a competitor, why would they want to encourage people to link to a competitor?
legacy social media
The goggles, they keep spinning!
If they have a data sharing agreement, I can think of a few rea$on$.
Not a competitor, fascism. And because the US government passed them a few million to do so.
reddit.com/…/due_to_recent_events_we_will_continu…
Beware of this festering pile of excrement that is the conservative subreddit. Ready your sanity and eye bleach before venturing in
Holy shit. I made the mistake of looking in there. What a festering pile of misinformed louts. There’s not a brain cell to be found in there.
Or, apparently, introspectiveness…
Kettle meet pot?
Uhhhhhhhhh, gotta say, I’ve never once heard NPR tell me that we’re special or privilaged, or above the law. Or even should be.
Meanwhile our current president is a 34x convicted criminal and sexual predator.
…although to be fair, the democrats also had a sexual predator in the 60s (twice), and the 90s.
But I can’t recall any democrat running on the platform of “we’re better than them”.
Wait, Wait Don’t Tell Me would poke fun at their audience for being the type to sniff their own farts. I haven’t listened in a while, but I assume they still do.
You have just seen an Eldritch Abomination (-10 Sanity)
Who cares
I get it, why give him any attention. But this is not about him–it’s about the protest this time. That’s fine by me, let’s get people going!
Good idea. We should do this here.
Assume a single instance should be able to do this no? If so, kind of sad that I don’t think any have that I am aware of.
/c/Playstation has, and lemmy.world has asked users if they should as a sticky.
Would much prefer users and instance admins to have better filtering tools.
Reddit users are about to get reminded that its not their platform to make rules
That was my guess as well, but so far, as reported to Ars Technica, they don’t intend to intervene
Wait until some Trump loyalist brownshirt calls pigboy.
I give them a week before they change their minds
Why would the owners of Reddit care about twitter?
It’s either the power mods or the admins who decide how content gets censored on reddit. Which one is worse?
Fucking preformative liberals, instead of attacking the systems of exploitation that harm the community they virtue signal for they focus on the temporarily manufactured villains.
If you can’t have everything, you’d prefer nothing? Isn’t that the same logic that got us a second trump term?
No the logic that got us a second trump term is “we can move as far to the right as we want, and as long as we’re second worst, people will have no choice but to vote for us.”
I mean, both of u are right
No again, what got Trump elected was a complacency that the population was at heart clear thinking and aware of the exploits of the world.
Incrementalists learn like they do anything else: they fucking don’t.
Democrat complacency in their politicians gave us trump, as much as Hillary Clinton did.
What got us a second Trump term was the Dems acting like they are owed votes, instead of acting like they need to earn votes.
So… what?
In your ideal world nazi sites wouldn’t be blocked?
What are you even arguing here?
There is no world in which refusing to use a site run by a nazi is a bad thing.
I’m arguing liberals have the memory of a goldfish and will forget it the next time something else comes up. This is #resist 2.0, purely performative.
Still better than nothing. I don’t see how complaining about a good thing gets us anywhere. And also it screams bad mental health. You ok, bro?
Got it, there’s no point in ever fighting them since we might not fight them at some unspecified point in the future, we should just all welcome and embrace Nazis. Thanks for letting us know how to move forward.
They are not fighting anything, if they were they would have fought it from the beginning instead of accepting small doses of fascism.
Got it, everyone just give up and walk willingly into the camps. Thanks for letting us know how to move forward.
We are currently living in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World where even the mention of breaking free from the chains is met with resistance. Liberals would rather dose their Soma than allow meaningful change to happen.
Yes, we already established that you think everyone should give up and walk willingly into the camps. Where do we meet you?
No one said give up anything, liberals are fighting the wrong things. They fight manufactured villains instead of the system that created them. They are repeating 2016 all over
You literally said this:
Sure as hell sounds like give up and stop fighting to me. If not, what would you suggest people do other than berate random strangers on the internet? Because I can tell that’s something you’re way into, but I do not see what it helps anything other than boosting your own ego.
Because it is performative, they are incapable of connecting the dots on multiple issues because they never stay connected long enough to get the larger picture. They focus on small issues like this and ignore the core of this problems, either willingly or ignorantly.
Again: what would you suggest people do other than berate random strangers on the internet?
It’s okay, I know you won’t actually answer. People like you never do.
You confuse berating with telling someone where they went wrong and how to fix it.
Thanks for proving my point.
You dont have a point because you feel that what you are doing is correct method. That arrogant hubris is why we now have open Nazis in power
You are right. Asking the person who says that they are not suggesting people give up what they should do instead of giving up is what I feel is the correct method.
But feel free at any time to say what people should do if not either give up or berate people on the internet.
I know you won’t because it’s clear you have no idea.
What’s “X”? Is that p0rn or something?
Imagine you had a relationship that turned out toxic, and then you decided to protect yourself by severing it. Later, when you even hear about X, your heart is filled with negative emotions, and you realize you need to move on.
Well it is run by a jerkoff.
Work in progress swastika.
Wow, “super effective” now the big boss of neo-fascism is in trouble with this. We will now beat them. Next week no one will talk about it anymore
So, your stratagy is nukes or go home? You just want one decisive move to win, otherwise why bother?
When a baby is born it doesn’t just run out of the womb and poop in a toilet. First it slides out. Many months later it starts crawling. Then slowly walking. Then walking. Then running. Then potty training. THEN it can run to a toilet to poop.
But by your logic, oh well, can’t run to a toilet on day 1. Best just not to be born.
I wonder how long their corporate overlords will allow this to continue.
Oh that’ll fucking show em
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Some Lemmy communities already have.
I’ve seen that the Playstation and Nintendo communities have both banned it recently.
Twitter probably benefits from people being redirected to their site from repostings with how it has become the go to source for news like sports, so it might. Won’t hurt Elon financially but less people being exposed to the content there that Elon wants to push that don’t actively use Twitter is a good thing even if it is only a few.
Even small moves is a good thing with how over the years sports and game submissions have become increasingly more Twitter submissions.
Twitters value has already been going down the shitter thanks to shit leadership, this is just another nail.
The less its posts are shared, the less its relevance is to the world. I can’t see that as a bad thing. It always baffled me how outsize Twitter’s influence was on world events/news while having 1/5th the active userbase of Facebook.
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Wow, leave it to redditors to make change without actually making change. A few of those subs had open discussions on instituting a ban and they discovered x links were in the dozens per year. Musk is definitely gonna feel that. What they should have done is ban all twitter images as well, those fuckers make up 3/4 of posts on /r/popular. Or ban/restrict musk news, because it feels like the remainng 1/4 posts are “news” that cover musk, including dozens of discussions on whether the nazi cheated in fucking videogames or not ( same as here come to think of it ). But no, they’re addicted to those and unable to make meaningful changes, so they’re left with these halfcocked “bans”.
Aaaand here come the admins to relentlessly bully any mods involved in this into submission. Because the reddit admins are pathetic, greedy little pig boys who don’t give a flying shit about their users or moderators.
Remember last time Redditor’s protested only to cave so they could keep being mods? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Yeah let’s see if they keep this up. In a few weeks they’ll cave in and say, “Well we want to keep people informed”.
I was the founder of r/TIHI in a past life and u/spez removed all of us moderators because we weren‘t opening the sub as part of our protest.
I them requested them to take down the subs title picture and logo which I created and they didn‘t even bother.
Thank you for your service
A redditor of quality, you have my respect.
Better to have you here mate.
No wonder the subreddit’s gone to shit.
Does Reddit have some sort of contract with X with regards to sharing of content? I know they have one with OpenAI.
This is a bit different from before. They aren’t privating the subs this time, they’re just doing their unpaid full time job by disallowing posts with untrusted sources.
I remember and that’s why I’m here reading your comment 🫡
That projection.
My first reaction when seeing the salute was ” oh come on, it can’t be that bad… oh it’s way worse than I thought”
I laughed when he did it twice as if just to emphasize the first one wasn’t a mistake.
Supports far right movement in Germany, says they are the only way to fix Germany.
Agrees with Jewish people being anti white- ““Jewish communties [sic] have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.”
The billionaire owner and CTO of X, formerly Twitter, responded the same evening: “You have said the actual truth.””
Does NAZI salutes on a national platform.
People in denial: “I’m sure it was a mistake”
I don’t think it was a mistake, I think it was more, “lol, let’s see what the media says about that!!” They made a spectacle of him jumping on stage at the campaign trail, so I truly think he did that to troll a bit.
He’s a real life Bruce Wayne, but without the Batman bit.
As they mindlessly repeat whatever they just saw linked on “onlyrealpatriots.info.biz” from Facebook.
I mean if you only saw and read Reddit during the last election campaign, you’d be ABSOLUTELY sure at the first half of the campaign that Biden was going to win, might as well don’t have an election at that point
And then, after Kamala got into the campaign, again, if you only saw and read Reddit, you’d be, again, ABSOLUTELY sure that she would win, it wasn’t even a contest.
If reality were downvotes, upvotes or massive bans to users posting against the thread zeitgeist, yeah sure, that would be what happened.
Hard to accept reality after that harsh wakeup call
If this is what it took they were just lazy before. This has been CLEARLY where he is pushing things for a long time now. Twitter is in the Xhitter.
To be fair, Reddit bans everyone for everything now
Yeah, fuck Reddit. They are part of the problem.
why do they still show these kind of pictures of him. for me there is only one picture of him to show from now on
Oh yes for the totally unproblematic picture taken at the inauguration, and since it’s so unproblematic he can’t possibly have an issue with it being posted.
Although a solid second favorite is him in a punk leather jacket. Mostly because he hates it.
I would also accept the picture of him leaping 2" off the ground with both arms up and his belly showing.
I still enjoy the edgy liberty pic and the balding one.
Most of the X links on Reddit just point to non-X content anyway, and are used by Reddit posters to circumvent subreddit policies on excluding dodgy sources. In other words they were using X as a shitty URL shortener.
Don’t do it as a “protest.” Do it as the new norm. Xitter has no worth and should be relegated to the porta-potty of time.
Meta, Twitter, now tiktok. BLATANTLY obvious coordination to propagandize social media.
Fuck then all, damn then to hell, scourge of modern society.
I used to spend time on Facebook catching up with friends and family. That was way back in like 2010. I can’t stand that platform now. It’s all AI trash and random reels. I don’t even know why I’m getting some of these reels but I suspect they are sharing data with other platforms like YT. I miss the internet of the 2000s…
They all share data or buy it. Talk about some random shit near your phone they know. I do it for giggles now. Not sure what works as a trigger it but I’ve made my own advertising for workout equipment, dj tables, etc without searching any of it.
Oh yeah. I get that too. I’m sitting here talking about the most random shit with my cousins and bam! Facebook got an ad for that.
And so begins the stun lock. Genius move actually with adversaries so predictable
In before reddit forces those subs to allow links to twitter.
Lemmy instances should follow suit.
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet
Dbzer0 took a vote and will block it from their instance I believe
I just added it as a rule for the communities I moderate. I also set my Bluesky feeds to filter out X links.
Disagree, but I also almost never follow them anyway. I pretty much only follow a link if I think it’s to a first party article or something.
De-centralized as long as you go with what I say…
I’m not sure you understand what decentralized means.
You’re perfectly free to go on Lemmy instances that don’t have that as a rule.
How can you have been on Lemmy longer than me yet have such a fundamental misunderstanding of centralized/non-federated vs decentralized/federated?
Here we go. If let’s just say all the instances came together and did the same ban because some hivemind mentality had taken over. It would metaphorically be centralized again. The chances of that happening-probably zero.
I’ve thought that since they started locking almost everything behind a login
A more fractured internet is coming. Posting sources will be forbidden. Discourse will become more polarized, disconnected, and extreme.
Most of these Reddit bans on Twitter are also half assed. They still allow screenshots of Twitter posts. That means the content is still spread, and Twitter remains relevant.
Lots of these subreddits don’t even get a lot of Twitter links in the first place. Like for lotrmemes it makes zero difference.
That said, Musk and Twitter suck. I have deleted my Twitter account three years ago.
However there still is some information, where Twitter is a good source.
If we like it or not, twitter is still the most important social network for journalisst and thinktankers.
Twitter has always been the red headed step child of social media. It had outsized cultural importance because most people consumed it via screenshot, not actually browsing the site. The reach of an individual twitter user is greatly augmented by their reach on other social platforms via screenshot
Your right it is where all the journalists post and Substack is a second. Which I can see Reddit banning. Probably not the best to get news from Reddit anymore.
And sports. Sports alone is enough to drive Twitter.
I feels like bizarro world if you fall somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum or don’t really care about politics. Seems their are only two extremes and you have to drink the cool-aid of whatever site you’re on or be suppressed. Whether you agree or disagree the push to ban twitter/x from all the sports subs was definitely a coordinated operation. Very troubling to me to see this kind of mass manipulation going on… these sports subs should have nothing to do with politics but maybe I’m the delusional one. I don’t know.
That’s how protests work. Just because you are not affected, does not mean you should not participate. Any subreddit participating is probably trying to show they are anti-nazi, and/or they support the efforts of the others in the platform.
Of course it causes trouble for users, but sadly that’s what Twitter has become and it deserves this hate. None of this would have happened if Elon truly advocated for freedom of speech, instead of using his power to push his right-wing beliefs.
I am proud that there are still some mods in Reddit that take the risk of protesting. I was afraid they got removed on the previous Reddit protest, about pricing changes.
Adding to that, not caring about politics probably means going with the flow and not reacting. Which, in today’s capitalist world, usually means supporting big corporations by using their services, just because everyone else use them.
If you are implying that the ignorant or unwilling should be forced participants in a protest, I would strongly disagree with that statement. I also am seeing a lot of rhetoric that not participating or simply not agreeing with a ban implies you are either a supporter of musk or Nazism… This sort of line in the sand statements are counterproductive, inflammatory, divisive and frankly ignorant.
There is no risk on reddit with such a protest considering the political lean. I don’t use twitter because I personally I hate the way conversations and ‘information’ is structured as well as the content. I don’t also don’t have an issue with subs/admins or even the whole platform banning twitter. What I do have are serious concerns about the mechanisms behind the ban and the further echo chambering of the site. To me, it’s better to have non quality info/sources available and downvote it than to just ban it.
I agree. There are some great OSINT posters that share all sorts of information you won’t find anywhere else. For example when Israel struck back at Iran after the initial wave of missiles and drones- it was a guy on twitter who geolocated and found the satellite images of what they hit.
And that information directly contradicted the Israeli official narrative. You won’t find it on NY Times. You won’t find it on Washington Post. Hell, you’d have a hard time finding it here or on reddit. That’s just one example, there’s a wealth of live data about Russia v Ukraine as well. One thing I’ve really learned the last 3 years since 2022 is that the mainstream media will completely lie to you. It isn’t just bias, it’s outright lying. So people online who are dedicated to the truth and provide receipts, I find, is a breath of fresh air. It allows humans without privileged information to go online and actually see with their own eyes what is happening on the ground. It’s something that frankly hasn’t been the case for any time in human history. Although I think it’s going to be a short window of time that will be true.
I think Twitter has progressively been becoming more censored. For now, most people are more or less ignored if you aren’t talking about the hot topics- but I think very soon anything against official US narrative will be banned. Same thing with Facebook, Tiktok, etc.
We’re seeing the social media sites align themselves with the US government in preparation for the next global war. The first thing to go in war is the truth. Soon there will be a giant firewall and we won’t be able to see content from overseas. Initially people will be able to use VPNs and other methods and then eventually that will be met with criminal charges.
Mainstream media doesn’t care to research thoroughly and rarely have journalists who actually understand the topic they’re reporting on. It’s not lies, just superficial sloppy work mostly.
Journalists rarely dig through OSINT themselves. They will ask an Possibly biased expert who actually reads and is able to interpret OSINT. Then the journalist will only understand half and misunderstand another part. The cite some quotes from the expert that then make for an article with a clickbaity headline. Only if you‘re very lucky the journalist will review the OST themselves or even show the source directly in their reporting. It’s surprisingly rare that journalists speak the language of the country they’re reporting about.
Not all is great with OSINT, as it’s full of selection bias, rumors, unconfirmed information, and people with agendas.
That’s not true. Gondor uses Twitter instead of beacons to call for aid now.
I did see a sub called fullmoviesonyoutube or something where a mod soloed the ban. Pretty amusing to read the user comments in that one
I wholeheartedly agree. I personally got fed up trying to make a new account recently where I got shadowbanned, where there’s accounts that steal posts from the past and repost them as new just to farm karma and they stay up despite bots detecting them as spam/reposts.
My point is if they’re looking to enforce something they should not do it in a half-assed way.
Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for information shared on social networks to be controlled, shutdown and people to be censored based on unknown and ambiguous criteria, without even understanding the implications of it.
Details at six
What does freedom of speech have to do with independent subreddits deciding they don’t want to serve content from a private company they don’t agree with?
That’s easy, freedom of speech means you can say what I want but not what you want, and it applies everywhere including in my dreams. So if you say something I don’t like in my dreams I can criminally charge you and take you to hell in a cell.
Edit: Thought this would be obvious satire, but here we are. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s easy if they have no idea what “freedom of speech” actually means and what it actually allows. The phrase at face value is nothing like the constitutionally protected action. They are too ignorant to know that.
100, I get more dislikes here than I ever did on Reddit.
Downvotes are not a form of censorship.
Also, that sounds like a you problem, not an “us” problem.
I know downvotes aren’t censorship. Not really, I saw the change happen in real time. I was on Twitter before it was run by Feds.
Weird tangent, but ok
Look, I’m all for freedom of speech. I’m nearly as close to an absolutist as they come.
This is an example of a protest. Nobody is restricting anybody’s speech. They aren’t banning Musk-supporters. They aren’t censoring Trumpers. They are specifically banning links to a website owned by a billionaire who did a Nazi salute at an event where hundreds of millions if not billions of people would witness him.
He’s a nazi. There’s no space it civil society for nazis.
Not to worry, you’re simply confusing freedom of speech with obliging private actors to consume content they don’t want to consume or disagree with. The first is a fundemental principle of democratic legal systems and recognized as a perempotry norm under international law. The second is authoritarianism.
There’s a growing number of legally illiterate people who think freedom of speech is absolute and even affords one the right to oblige others consume their speech through the government. That is fundamentally wrong and a complete misunderstanding of how these key principles of freedom work and have always worked in modern democratic systems.
Newsflash - freedom of speech is not absolute. Never has been. There are very specific, explicitly codified limitations. Why? Because words are the most powerful weapons and can be used to target and threaten the freedoms of other people, including their freedom to life. Which is why rights and obligations are always balanced against each other, following the principle of proportionality.
If you feel so strongly about not being able force others to consume content they don’t want to consume, then I have bad news for you - you are opposing democracy. But it seems like you, and many other like you, are just confused, rather than actively promoting anti-democratic standpoints. The truly sad part? The impact is the same regardless of intent.
Edit: Want to know more? Details at 6.
It’s so typical to see 90% good argument and 10% insult the OP & half the country. If believers stuck to the 90% good argument and left out the insults you’d win a lot of followers.
I don’t want any followers or believers. Calling it as I see it. That is all.
The sky is blue and I think OP is a moron. The second part doesn’t make the first untrue, it also doesn’t make it an ad hominem argument.
Half the voters(not country) are a bunch of gullible clowns and calling them out is just an observation.
Existence of mods goes against the concept of freedom of speech. People aren’t prevented from directly using Twitter themselves. They’d be on 4chan if they wanted something as close to an unfiltered internet.
We wouldn’t be on our respective instances that have blocked off entire instances and communities if we wanted to consume unfiltered internet content.
Wat
I saw it from the monster hunter community, now you can’t post the source of a fanart lol.
Might get more artists to move to Bluesky at least
You can always leave their @handle if you want to credit them. Most artists also have other channels. If they only have X… Well sucks to be them but it’s thteir choice.