autotldr@lemmings.world
on 07 Dec 2023 17:10
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
These changes are said to take effect after Hudson Valley launches in 2024, so I’m still expecting at least one more Moment update for the current version of Windows 11, which sources say will ship in the February or March time frame early next year.
This means PCs that ship with Germanium in June will be missing most of the features that make up the Hudson Valley release until the fall, when it reaches general availability for everyone.
Unsurprisingly, the big focus for Hudson Valley is on next-generation AI experiences that are being woven and integrated throughout the OS, much of which will likely require new NPU hardware to function.
Microsoft is even working on “AI” powered wallpapers which will use machine learning to identify layers in any image, and create a slight parallax effect that interacts with your cursor or built-in gyroscope if on a handheld device.
This project is code-named CorePC (or Win3 in some cases), and essentially continues the vision originally set out with Core OS where the platform is modular, allowing Microsoft to scale Windows up and down depending on what features and capabilities are necessary for a device.
I have heard that Microsoft is working on a variant of CorePC / Win3 that’s designed to compete head-to-head with Chrome OS in the low-end segment of the PC market, but this is unrelated to Hudson Valley.
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 17:22
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The AI ‘features’ all sound like things I have always been able to happily live without. Linux has no need for such nonsense thankfully.
Eh, there’s all kinds of automatic user bahviour predicting that’s quite useful without “AI” that could be even better. For example, when I am by the local supermarket and pull up my phone and search for apps it “knows” where I am and suggests parking fee app (which I’m about to use). I can imagine this could be expanded in some unexpected ways with correlations derived from machine learning models.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 18:03
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It could be, but let me tell you this is absolutely the last thing I want. I want my device to do what I tell it to, nothing more and nothing less. If I want the computer to suggest me something, I damn well want to ask it first and I don’t need it gathering up all my usage behavior prior to then.
A) It’s Microsoft we’re talking about. They will 100% make everything paid and behind a subscription, or bait people in by saying it’s free and change their minds 1-2 years later
B) Nobody has the hardware to run good AI models locally (yet), so these features will all be locked behind being connected to your MS account at all times, with a probably terrible privacy policy behind it
C) Does this really have to be baked into the OS? This could’ve just been an application or an extension. Windows Copilot already exists and 99% of people are clearly not interested.
D) Guaranteed they will just keep pushing AI rather than do any decent improvements to the system. Watch their incredible new OS be Windows 10 with a new coat of paint and ads just like 11. Best they’ll do is hide the settings behind another menu, again.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social
on 07 Dec 2023 20:01
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I really want to try out Github Copilot for C++ on VS Code for Linux here shortly. From what I read, it could be VERY useful for what I do.
I don't mind a second brain helping me out with programming.
NullaFacies@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Dec 2023 18:36
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According to my sources, the new Windows bosses are now returning to an annual release cycle for major versions of the Windows platform, meaning Windows is going back to having just one big feature update a year instead of multiple smaller ones throughout.
Good. Despite Windows 10 with all of its privacy issues, it’s nice to see major updates released to an OS every year rather than a new version of Windows every few years.
Nacktmull@lemm.ee
on 07 Dec 2023 19:11
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Urgency to switch to Linux intensifies
Boozilla@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 19:19
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I’m I the only person who wants the Windows OS to do less, not more? I strongly prefer a non-intrusive OS that isn’t constantly calling attention to itself with needless bullshit and distractions. MS has forgotten (or wants to ignore) the fundamental role of the OS, which is a platform for the apps we actually want to interact with to run on.
Of course this phenomenon isn’t only limited to MS Windows. Far too much software these days thinks it constantly needs to grab your attention. I’m sick of the whole “all push notifications all the time” mindset of designers.
To revise my complaining a bit, the return to one “big update” per year could be a good thing…hopefully.
boolean@kbin.social
on 07 Dec 2023 19:32
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you are not alone.
operating systems for the youtube generation. Like and Subscribe to open your recommended apps!
Boozilla@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 19:33
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Thanks for the laugh! I’m glad I’m not the only one.
wmassingham@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 19:38
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No, but Windows is so entrenched that they don’t need to actually be competitive in order to keep making profit. Instead, the Windows team has to invent things nobody ever wanted or needed that they can advertise to make it look like they’re still useful. Software UX polish-passes don’t make good marketing. You can’t seriously put “you know that one weird thing that only happened to a fraction of users sporadically? we fixed it” on a marketing campaign.
Boozilla@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 19:41
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You make some good points. I would be happy if they just made it faster, more reliable, and more secure (incremental improvements) and I personally don’t want or need a lot of “wow factor” out of the stupid OS. But I do understand what you’re saying. A lot of those MBAs, etc, that they hired need to justify their jobs and so on.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
on 07 Dec 2023 20:49
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I miss XP.
I’ll accept Windows 7
The rest suck ass.
CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world
on 07 Dec 2023 20:55
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XP pro and Win7 were the bestest
Now im porting as much to Linux as I can
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
on 08 Dec 2023 07:31
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Trust me you want to use an online Microsoft account as your sign in for your personal PC. Are you sure? You’ll be missing out if you don’t! Trust me…
^ windows when you install it.
I mean how else will you get wicked fast search results for your apps when you push the windows key? Ha! Gotcha, first we will search the web, and slowly. Your work can wait.
Experience on Linux and Mac is way better for launching apps.
Boozilla@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 13:04
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I jump through hoops when I install Windows to avoid that Microsoft login. Total PITA.
I know Linux is better, and I do dabble in it. Sadly I’m a fossilized corporate drone at this point, and am stuck with Windows at my job.
One more thing to look forward to in retirement, finally getting serious about learning Linux.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
on 11 Dec 2023 03:27
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In 2023 it’s really easy now. Honestly the install process like 9 years ago was easier than windows because you got a proper Gui.
90% of shit runs in a browser now. Browsers have been fine on Linux since forever. I still game and video edit with a professional editor no problem. Just give it a whirl on a spare disk or something, I promise it will likely be painless :).
Not much to “learn” unless you have quirky hardware that doesn’t have proper drivers but most everything works out of the box these days.
If my games and my NVidia card worked as well on Linux as they did Windows then I’d switch my main gaming PC in a heartbeat. My work stuff all runs Linux but I ain’t interested in subpar performance and troubleshooting games when I just want to relax and not basically do more work at home.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
These changes are said to take effect after Hudson Valley launches in 2024, so I’m still expecting at least one more Moment update for the current version of Windows 11, which sources say will ship in the February or March time frame early next year.
This means PCs that ship with Germanium in June will be missing most of the features that make up the Hudson Valley release until the fall, when it reaches general availability for everyone.
Unsurprisingly, the big focus for Hudson Valley is on next-generation AI experiences that are being woven and integrated throughout the OS, much of which will likely require new NPU hardware to function.
Microsoft is even working on “AI” powered wallpapers which will use machine learning to identify layers in any image, and create a slight parallax effect that interacts with your cursor or built-in gyroscope if on a handheld device.
This project is code-named CorePC (or Win3 in some cases), and essentially continues the vision originally set out with Core OS where the platform is modular, allowing Microsoft to scale Windows up and down depending on what features and capabilities are necessary for a device.
I have heard that Microsoft is working on a variant of CorePC / Win3 that’s designed to compete head-to-head with Chrome OS in the low-end segment of the PC market, but this is unrelated to Hudson Valley.
The original article contains 1,555 words, the summary contains 230 words. Saved 85%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
The AI ‘features’ all sound like things I have always been able to happily live without. Linux has no need for such nonsense thankfully.
Eh, there’s all kinds of automatic user bahviour predicting that’s quite useful without “AI” that could be even better. For example, when I am by the local supermarket and pull up my phone and search for apps it “knows” where I am and suggests parking fee app (which I’m about to use). I can imagine this could be expanded in some unexpected ways with correlations derived from machine learning models.
It could be, but let me tell you this is absolutely the last thing I want. I want my device to do what I tell it to, nothing more and nothing less. If I want the computer to suggest me something, I damn well want to ask it first and I don’t need it gathering up all my usage behavior prior to then.
No. Just, no.
I wouldn’t mind the predictive stuff tbh, if it had been developed as a product.
We happily live without most features until they come around.
Just have to see how it plays out.
Knowing Microsoft? Subscription push or subject you to ads and/or other limitations. Windows 11 already does a ton of spying on you…
Problem is…
A) It’s Microsoft we’re talking about. They will 100% make everything paid and behind a subscription, or bait people in by saying it’s free and change their minds 1-2 years later
B) Nobody has the hardware to run good AI models locally (yet), so these features will all be locked behind being connected to your MS account at all times, with a probably terrible privacy policy behind it
C) Does this really have to be baked into the OS? This could’ve just been an application or an extension. Windows Copilot already exists and 99% of people are clearly not interested.
D) Guaranteed they will just keep pushing AI rather than do any decent improvements to the system. Watch their incredible new OS be Windows 10 with a new coat of paint and ads just like 11. Best they’ll do is hide the settings behind another menu, again.
I really want to try out Github Copilot for C++ on VS Code for Linux here shortly. From what I read, it could be VERY useful for what I do.
I don't mind a second brain helping me out with programming.
Good. Despite Windows 10 with all of its privacy issues, it’s nice to see major updates released to an OS every year rather than a new version of Windows every few years.
Urgency to switch to Linux intensifies
I’m I the only person who wants the Windows OS to do less, not more? I strongly prefer a non-intrusive OS that isn’t constantly calling attention to itself with needless bullshit and distractions. MS has forgotten (or wants to ignore) the fundamental role of the OS, which is a platform for the apps we actually want to interact with to run on.
Of course this phenomenon isn’t only limited to MS Windows. Far too much software these days thinks it constantly needs to grab your attention. I’m sick of the whole “all push notifications all the time” mindset of designers.
To revise my complaining a bit, the return to one “big update” per year could be a good thing…hopefully.
you are not alone.
operating systems for the youtube generation. Like and Subscribe to open your recommended apps!
Thanks for the laugh! I’m glad I’m not the only one.
No, but Windows is so entrenched that they don’t need to actually be competitive in order to keep making profit. Instead, the Windows team has to invent things nobody ever wanted or needed that they can advertise to make it look like they’re still useful. Software UX polish-passes don’t make good marketing. You can’t seriously put “you know that one weird thing that only happened to a fraction of users sporadically? we fixed it” on a marketing campaign.
You make some good points. I would be happy if they just made it faster, more reliable, and more secure (incremental improvements) and I personally don’t want or need a lot of “wow factor” out of the stupid OS. But I do understand what you’re saying. A lot of those MBAs, etc, that they hired need to justify their jobs and so on.
I miss XP.
I’ll accept Windows 7
The rest suck ass.
XP pro and Win7 were the bestest
Now im porting as much to Linux as I can
Trust me you want to use an online Microsoft account as your sign in for your personal PC. Are you sure? You’ll be missing out if you don’t! Trust me…
^ windows when you install it.
I mean how else will you get wicked fast search results for your apps when you push the windows key? Ha! Gotcha, first we will search the web, and slowly. Your work can wait.
Experience on Linux and Mac is way better for launching apps.
I jump through hoops when I install Windows to avoid that Microsoft login. Total PITA.
I know Linux is better, and I do dabble in it. Sadly I’m a fossilized corporate drone at this point, and am stuck with Windows at my job.
One more thing to look forward to in retirement, finally getting serious about learning Linux.
In 2023 it’s really easy now. Honestly the install process like 9 years ago was easier than windows because you got a proper Gui.
90% of shit runs in a browser now. Browsers have been fine on Linux since forever. I still game and video edit with a professional editor no problem. Just give it a whirl on a spare disk or something, I promise it will likely be painless :).
Not much to “learn” unless you have quirky hardware that doesn’t have proper drivers but most everything works out of the box these days.
If my games and my NVidia card worked as well on Linux as they did Windows then I’d switch my main gaming PC in a heartbeat. My work stuff all runs Linux but I ain’t interested in subpar performance and troubleshooting games when I just want to relax and not basically do more work at home.