Archivists Recreate Pre-Trump CDC Website, Are Hosting It in Europe (www.404media.co)
from ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 16:46
https://lemmy.world/post/26375626

A team of volunteer archivists has recreated the Centers for Disease Control website exactly as it was the day Donald Trump was inaugurated. The site, called RestoredCDC.org, went live Tuesday and is currently being hosted in Europe.

As we have been following since the beginning of Trump’s second term, websites across the entire federal government have been altered and taken offline under this administration’s war on science, health, and diversity, equity, and inclusion. Critical information promoting vaccines, HIV care, reproductive health options including abortion, and trans and gender confirmation healthcare have been purged from the CDC’s live website under Trump. Disease surveillance data about bird flu and other concerns have either been delayed or have stopped being updated entirely. Some deleted pages across the government have at least temporarily been restored thanks to a court order, but the Trump administration has added a note rejecting “gender ideology” to some of them.

“Our goal is to provide a resource that includes the information and data previously available,” the team wrote. “We are committed to providing the previously available webpages and data, from before the potential tampering occurred. Our approach is to be as transparent as possible about our process. We plan to gather archival data and then remove CDC logos and branding, using GitHub to host our code to create the site.”

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db2@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 16:49 next collapse

Good to see people taking “information demands to be free” seriously.

VonReposti@feddit.dk on 05 Mar 2025 17:20 next collapse

using GitHub to host our code

I can’t possibly think of any way that could backfire.

singletona@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 17:27 next collapse

Microsoft suddenly getting ordered by the DoJ to pull offending projects from github Or Else.

Quill7513@slrpnk.net on 05 Mar 2025 17:53 collapse

if that happens, people should migrate to gitlab or forgejo. gitlab is a Ukrainian company, and forgejo development is primarily driven by Codeberg in Germany.

[deleted] on 05 Mar 2025 18:07 next collapse

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Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 18:24 collapse

Is this like that meme about houseplants and potatoes?

Github - aww, someone called out API too much I guess I’ll just die

Gitlab - I am in a fucking warzone and you don’t see that stopping me.

krimson@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 18:54 next collapse

Gitlab was created by a ukranian and dutch developer originally but today Gitlab stock is traded on Nasdaq and its HQ is listed as San Francisco (wikipedia). I use it selfhosted but I don’t think gitlab.com can be seen as European anymore.

Correct me if I’m wrong.

stardust@lemmy.ca on 05 Mar 2025 18:57 next collapse

Dammit really need to stop setting up HQs in US. It’s the same for archive.org and wikipedia.

Parsizzle@lemm.ee on 06 Mar 2025 00:00 next collapse

I think you might be right for the simple reason that (based on that same source and my presumption of their names ) all the C* people seem to be American as well.

PlexSheep@infosec.pub on 06 Mar 2025 09:17 collapse

I self host forgejo. GitHub is the better service because of their super fast ci servers, the GitHub actions that just work, and also because collaboration is tied to the network effect

grue@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 20:08 next collapse

if that happens, people should migrate

Or better yet, they should just go ahead and do so right now. What’s the point of picking Github over the other better alternatives anyway?

Quill7513@slrpnk.net on 05 Mar 2025 22:35 collapse

(i agree entirely, but i have to accept a lot of people just go wherever the most users are)

grue@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 23:26 collapse

It’s a version control system, not social media!

I get that you’re explaining it, not endorsing it, and so this criticism isn’t directed at you, but the notion that people would pick Github over Gitlab or Codeburg because of the bandwagon effect is just dumb and weird.

Quill7513@slrpnk.net on 06 Mar 2025 00:12 collapse

I agree and also don’t at the same time. It’s coming from a genuine place of you get more driveby contributions on Github than you do Gitlab or Codeberg, but at the same time, people will ultimately go where the projects are, and I think the more open source code we host on Codeberg the more users we’ll get on Codeberg, and the more Codeberg users we get the more driveby contributions projects will get on Codeberg. Like I get where an individual project is coming from preferring Github over Codeberg, BUT where we are currently where everyone is preferring Github over codeberg is ultimately just us strangling ourselves. I think when Microsoft bought GitHub and a lot of projects moved to Codeberg, and then again when Microsoft started pushing Copilot hard… IDK, I guess what I’m getting at is WHAT IS THE HOLD UP PEOPLE! Move your projects to Codeberg! And when you’re looking for solutions to problems you’re having, look on Codeberg first. For one thing, it’s actually lowkey nicer to use at this point, and it does have enough traction that you should get enough driveby contributions to be worth your while

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 06 Mar 2025 00:52 collapse

I find it weird that one can sign in to codeberg with a github account.

Quill7513@slrpnk.net on 06 Mar 2025 01:03 collapse

I was not aware of that! Hopefully it encourages drivebys!

SabinStargem@lemmings.world on 06 Mar 2025 00:44 next collapse

Didn’t know that. Thanks for the tidbit of lore. :)

SeeFerns@programming.dev on 06 Mar 2025 04:05 next collapse

Any opinions on gitea? Idk I’ve been using it for about a year and it works nicely

Quill7513@slrpnk.net on 06 Mar 2025 04:17 collapse

of the gogs family tree it’s my middle favorite.

  1. forgejo
  2. gitea
  3. gogs

forgejo gets the edge because of federation. gitea’s corporate situation is less than ideal. gogs simply doesn’t have the features to be a complete solution

SeeFerns@programming.dev on 06 Mar 2025 18:18 collapse

I didn’t realize Gitea had any issues, I didn’t do my due diligence and look into them much after switching from GitHub.

I’ll check out forgejo thanks!

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 2025 04:27 collapse

people should just automatically push to all three as a backup from the start, tbh

balder1991@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 05:49 collapse

They don’t need to, because git is already decentralized. All the history is usually on everyone’s computers.

PlexSheep@infosec.pub on 06 Mar 2025 09:18 next collapse

It’s not just about git. It’s also about issued, PRs, comments, security advisory, and so on

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 2025 12:16 collapse

it’s not the history though it’s the releases, readmes, or issues for people who are interested in the project but aren’t contributors

LWD@lemm.ee on 05 Mar 2025 19:31 next collapse

You mean a company with deep ties to Elon Musk’s biggest personal enemy Sam Altman?

No way. I’m sure it will be fine, just like the CDC website

Serinus@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 08:36 next collapse

Should be fine with the way git works, just inconvenient.

Any maintainers (or someone here) should set up a regular job to git pull the repo every night.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 2025 10:53 collapse

Yeah, hosting it outside of US but by a US provider? Wait, how’d they manage that?

Sunshine@lemmy.ca on 05 Mar 2025 18:21 next collapse

Hosting in Europe is the Cherry on top.

TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee on 05 Mar 2025 18:26 next collapse

Can this be made into a .zim for Kiwix?

ivanafterall@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 19:10 next collapse

I was just thinking earlier today: I really, really hope someone is backing up the Library of Congress’ stuff, particularly Chronicling America, which has almost every newspaper issue (searchable by text and much more) from 1756 - 1963. Like archive.org – federal edition, sort of.

Anyway, given how fascists love to erase history, it’s precisely the kind of thing I could see them targeting. Particularly if you wanted to erase the fact that, oh, I don’t know, your father Fred Trump was arrested at a Ku Klux Klan rally in 1927. That kinda thing.

Infynis@midwest.social on 05 Mar 2025 19:36 next collapse

Data preservationists are beating back the coming dark age. They’re heroes.

eronth@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 04:17 next collapse

They’re either beating it back or delaying it. I hope it’s the former, but I fear it’s the latter.

Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 2025 05:43 collapse

If they screw shit up too much there are already the nerdiest of nerds working on decentralized wireless networks. They’d be slow is heck, but I heard many people prefer web 1.0 over todays’ bloated crap anyway.

PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee on 06 Mar 2025 04:20 collapse

And they called us data hoarders!

aidan@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2025 22:43 next collapse

It doesn’t matter where its hosted

ColdWater@lemmy.ca on 06 Mar 2025 00:30 next collapse

Yes it does matter

aidan@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 19:21 collapse

Why?

ColdWater@lemmy.ca on 07 Mar 2025 06:07 collapse

If you use your brain a bit more you might figure out why

aidan@lemmy.world on 08 Mar 2025 00:16 collapse

That’s not nice

DesolateMood@lemm.ee on 06 Mar 2025 00:42 collapse

Why not

aidan@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 19:21 collapse

Why would it?

SabinStargem@lemmings.world on 06 Mar 2025 00:43 next collapse

I hope California, blue states, and Europe all bankroll this into an official Neo-CDC, free of Yarvin’s hatred and stupidity.

Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 2025 05:40 collapse

Europe won’t do a thing with these initiatives, at least not in any official manner (what they can do though is to ensure EU web hosters of this stuff aren’t feeling the pressure). They’ve enough to do restructuring their economy and military, all the while also dealing with war and fascism from the east. They won’t risk Trump having another tamper tantrum, at least not before the EU and its allies are widely decoupled from the US economy.

Serinus@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 08:39 collapse

They need to actually go into Ukraine before the US takes a more active Russian stance. He’ll talk a lot, but he doesn’t want a war with the EU. Europe needs to move first.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 06 Mar 2025 02:31 next collapse

source.coop Someone put up 16tb of data.gov data here too

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 05:28 next collapse

It’s weird living in a world where people are rescuing our past from the Ministry of Information sponsored Memory Hole.

freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 08:45 collapse

It’s weird watching Idiocracy become a documentary in real-time. When farmers can’t get fertilizers from Canada, I’m waiting for Trump and Elon to announce a partnership with Gatorade as the new Crop Quencher.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 09:03 collapse

Censoring communications is 1984, not Idiocracy.

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 13:05 collapse

We can live in both at the same time.

slaterbater@lemm.ee on 06 Mar 2025 18:37 collapse

At least he’ll fix the ecomoney

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 18:59 collapse

Didn’t he already fix it? Aren’t we past day one?

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip on 06 Mar 2025 08:56 next collapse

Aren’t there also a bunch of govt officials making alts on bluesky to try to somewhat anonymously get info out?

YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 14:11 collapse

Alt National Park Service comes to mind. They’re doing incredible work

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 2025 10:56 next collapse

but many website archives are slow to use and difficult to navigate because things like interactive elements and internal linking can sometimes be wonky.

Well, at least httrack does the relinking by itself. And i think wget’s mirror option too?

coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe on 06 Mar 2025 13:14 next collapse

You data horders are insane. I love it.

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 2025 13:49 next collapse

we need to get blue state leaders and researchers to start referring data to it and referencing this instead of the official site.

Flashback956@feddit.nl on 06 Mar 2025 18:24 next collapse

Once on the internet, always on the internet.

jamie_oliver@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 2025 19:09 next collapse

Mad levels of respect for these people

Raiderkev@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 2025 06:26 next collapse

Remember, they also took the constitution off of Whitehouse.gov

WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 2025 06:43 collapse

Can we send another copy to New Zealand?

Just in case?