96% of US Hospital Websites Share Visitor Data with Google, Meta, Data Brokers, and Other Third Parties, Study Finds (www.theregister.com)
from ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 18:33
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But in the meantime, and in lieu of any federal data privacy law in the US, protecting personal information falls to the individual. And for that, Friedman recommends browser-based tools Ghostery and Privacy Badger, which identify and block transfers to third-party domains. “It impacts your browsing experience almost none,” he explained. “It’s free. And you will be shocked at how much tracking is actually happening, and how much data is actually flowing to third parties.”

Note: Although Friedman recommends Ghostery and Privacy Badger, uBlock Origin is generally considered a better privacy-enhancing browser extension. Additionally, there exist multiple approaches for adblocking and tracker blocking beyond the browser extension model.

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lemmyreader@lemmy.ml on 11 Apr 2024 18:46 next collapse

I remember years ago my friends told me Ghostery did some shady business. Sadly it is difficult to find any useful information about this, between the lots of ads and pop ups (Where have all the blog posts gone ?), but here is something : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostery#Criticism

SuperSynthia@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 19:13 next collapse

I feel like this is ripe for abuse. I’m sure insurance companies purchase this data to screw their customers in some wicked way

reddig33@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 19:45 next collapse

Welcome to for-profit healthcare.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 11 Apr 2024 20:30 next collapse

Reading this while in an urgent care lmao

paraphrand@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 23:30 next collapse

Feel better.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 12 Apr 2024 00:00 collapse

Just a sprain :P I should get over it fast. Thank you though :)

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 16:35 collapse

I bet they made you use a website or app to check in. And that website wasn’t created by the Urgent Care. So everything you entered isn’t protected by HIPPA.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 13 Apr 2024 20:10 collapse

They did and probably 😔

vortexal@sopuli.xyz on 11 Apr 2024 22:04 next collapse

Doesn’t this violate HIPAA, or does HIPAA not cover this?

disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 22:32 collapse

HIPAA prevents providers from sharing your personal medical data. In this case, you are the one sharing the data by using a third-party portal. Best recommendation is to check-in in person, complete ER forms on paper, and avoid using third-party apps/websites for medical care. Provider-hosted secure portals are protected by HIPAA.

paraphrand@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 23:29 collapse

That’s a huge loophole.

Fuck this country. 😬

disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 23:58 collapse

Write your representatives asking for privacy legislation. The EU’s GDPR is a great example.

Zerlyna@lemmy.world on 11 Apr 2024 22:34 next collapse

I’m not a programmer so I could be wrong… Aren’t using the direct medical apps on your phone (Epic, FollowMyHealth, etc) safer than the web?
Or are they selling that data too?

Lodra@programming.dev on 11 Apr 2024 23:40 collapse

At first, I found this funny. Then I realized how scary, sad, etc. the reality is.

Companies typically prefer users to use a native app for two reasons. First, the software is sometimes easier to build. Second, they are capable of scraping a vastly larger and more valuable set of data from the user.

Browsers can hit many differs sites, many of which are dangerous. Thus, web browsers have to be as secure as possible to protect users from malicious sites. This includes Facebook, TikTok, every medical site you’ve ever logged into, etc.

I know a lot about software. Personally, I view every installed app as a means of attacking my privacy. If you have the choice and your experience isn’t diminished, use a web browser instead of a native app.

Edit:

Something else to note. The larger companies are almost always much worse. Take a look at Facebook on the Apple Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/facebook/id284882215

Go down to App Privacy and View Details. It’s absolutely terrible how much data they collect. Unethical at a minimum. Now compare to Voyager for Lemmy: apps.apple.com/us/app/…/id6451429762

“Data Not Collected”

Zerlyna@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 00:21 collapse

That is definitely some scary shit, thank you. That also piggybacks onto another thought I had, my partner insists on google chrome for everything. (He is a pc and android user). I stay away from google anything and would think because he SAYS he cares about what’s collected, and he admits he isn’t a techie, but then doesn’t want to hear it from me when I say use something Mozilla based and ublock. But nothing is safe anymore. I do use voyager. :)

Lodra@programming.dev on 12 Apr 2024 00:55 collapse

I ditched chrome (chromium + google propriety spyware) some years ago in favor of Brave browser (chromium + Brave stuff). It was a decent user experience but Brave also does some shady stuff, which you can google easily if interested.

Last year, google poisoned chromium with DRM stuff. They rolled back the changes after a few months but the damage was already done. I, and many others, jumped ship to Firefox and other non-chromium based browsers. Firefox isn’t perfect, but it’s an excellent browser. I’m sticking with it for the foreseeable future. And absolutely use uBlock Origin. Between that and proton VPN features, I don’t see ads anymore. It’s fantastic.

phoneymouse@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 01:56 next collapse

This is just a guess, but I would assume the hospitals doing this are unaware. They probably just put Google Analytics and Meta’s SDK on their website, completely oblivious to the fact that that shit vacuums up everything on the page, including text box inputs.

space@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Apr 2024 10:36 collapse

The bad part is that even if you block everything on the client side with ad/tracker blocking extensions, there’s nothing stopping them from collecting data on the server side.

CrayonRosary@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 17:41 next collapse

Please explain. How can google, Facebook, and such get data out of a hospital web server directly? That would be hacking.

space@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Apr 2024 02:08 collapse

Typically trackers are implemented client side because it’s more convenient. It’s closer to the user, it can collect more data, and there is only one programming language it needs to support, Javascript.

But the disadvantage is that it can be blocked by the users. Data collection and user tracking can also be done on the server side. There are many analytics packages that support it, including Google Analytics. This is much easier to hide from the users. Here is an article I found on the topic.

It’s not hacking because the website developers integrate it willingly.

disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 18:02 collapse

That would be a violation of HIPAA.

space@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Apr 2024 02:11 collapse

I was referring to the website. This article goes in a lot more detail about how it works.

I’m pretty sure they are consulting lawyers to see how much data they can sell to third parties without breaking the law.

disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 2024 02:31 collapse

For non-medical data, sure. That’s not an uncommon form of data collection. It’s a complete violation of HIPAA to use something like that on medical databases.

twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Apr 2024 03:41 collapse

This is called “enumerating badness” and the findings here are both probably not that meaningful and based on a lot of assumptions.

I am curious to see what data is being transmitted, but not a lot is actually revealed by this

witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Apr 2024 17:07 collapse

“Common data shared included IP addresses, browser info, pages visited, referring site.”

wagesj45@kbin.run on 14 Apr 2024 03:43 collapse

So enough to cross reference with a bazillion other data-brokers online and absolutely pinpoint most people.