Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 03:09
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And009@lemmynsfw.com
on 08 Dec 2023 09:57
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It’s for Kim, everyone else can pay for it.
Zagorath@aussie.zone
on 08 Dec 2023 03:31
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Not where, with whom.
We ship this article with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan.
columbus@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 03:20
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Do people actually read the whole AI generated article just to find out the country name?
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 03:44
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also what it used to cost, and what it does now, so you can skip the article for other reasons instead:
“YouTube’s annual subscription plan in South Korea was initially 10,450 won ($7.95 USD) per month for the web and 14,000 won ($10.65 USD) per month for Android and iOS.”
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
on 08 Dec 2023 04:56
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Pretty good value actually.
Squizzy@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 10:26
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Except their feed is shite, the notifications have never worked, their support is awful, their policy is piss poor and randomly enforced and they don’t pay to create the vast vast vast majority of the content they are being paid for. So fuck them and their shitty platform.
dgriffith@aussie.zone
on 08 Dec 2023 21:47
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I got dragged over from Google Play Music, and never use YouTube video.
My subscription is going from AUD 9.99 to AUD 16.99 a month in April, for features I couldn’t give a crap about.
I just want to listen to music, fuck this noise. I’ve got a reminder in my calendar in March to cancel my subscription and I might switch to Spotify which is $5 a month cheaper here.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
on 08 Dec 2023 14:05
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I honestly find it hard to see how there is any value, just a waste of money. But you do you
If you have an Android TV or Android box hooked to it, there’s SmartTube, which is pretty much reVanced for the big screen. It works great !
LordWiggle@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 10:01
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Louis Rossmann launched a new app Grayjay, which is to follow artists across platforms. It’s YouTube ad free, has another comments layer without YouTube monetization, allows downloads and they are working on sponsor block. It costs $10 because they do not sell your data, but it works without paying too because they are not assholes. But they are worth it to get the 10 bucks imo. He’s a strong fighter for right to repair, one of Google, Samsung and Apple’s biggest enemy. Grayjay.app is the website to download. He has a video on it on YouTube explaining everything.
chitak166@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 16:15
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Does anyone else get sketched out by louis rossmann?
SirStumps@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 16:20
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You know what I purchased that whenever I first saw it like 2 months ago and I forgot about it because it needed a little more polish I’ll start using it again.
FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 11:22
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Thankfully Firefox and adblocking is free.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social
on 08 Dec 2023 13:04
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They will probably block “non-certified” browsers soon enough.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 14:47
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I’d hope that would lead to FTC action, but that’s only if the republicans don’t win the presidency next year.
ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 08 Dec 2023 16:12
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And also EU DMA/DSA actions
chitak166@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 16:15
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Youtube’s entire platform is built around dominance. It’s the one-stop-shop for all “content creators.”
They won’t sacrifice that because it will make Youtube no longer synonymous with ‘online video.’
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social
on 08 Dec 2023 21:01
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Firefox is like 3% of all internet browsing. Probably even less on YouTube. They can sacrifice a little bit.
chitak166@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 21:08
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I mean, that’s a terrible business decision when you have a monopoly.
I can easily see you getting fired for even suggesting this. It just shows how out of touch you are with modern economics.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social
on 08 Dec 2023 21:26
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This is Google’s strategy. Haven’t you followed the manifest V3 debacle? They want to end ad blocking once and for all. Their entire business model is to sell ads. They want to turn that ad blocking crooks into sweet new ad revenue. Maybe even subscription revenue.
chitak166@lemmy.world
on 08 Dec 2023 21:30
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Yes, but google won’t sacrifice its monopoly to show people more ads. Hence why they, you know, haven’t done it yet.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social
on 09 Dec 2023 11:11
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In what way are they sacrificing their monopoly? There’s no viable alternative to n YouTube.
They also restricted IE6 when it was far more dominant than Firefox is today (and when YouTube was far less dominant), so it’s not completely unheard of.
But using the dominance of YouTube to influence the browser market is textbook anticompetitive, painting a huge target on themselves for regulators.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social
on 09 Dec 2023 12:27
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They can probably find loop holes, like saying they do support many alternative browsers like Edge, Safari, Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, etc. . They just don’t want “insecure” and “outdated” browsers that support terrible stuff like ad blocking, but they can agree to support Firefox if Mozilla takes action to prevent “insecure” extensions like ad blocking.
nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 08 Dec 2023 15:30
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Same model as all ways. Put all free, people completely upload their info and relying on it, monetize what people free uploaded. Same fucking model as all the companies and not just for media. Example ChatGPT. This should be illegal worldwide.
the thing is that i get why they need money for their infrastructure after blowing up so much. but what really rubs me the wrong way is: they have studied how to butcher people’s private data for 20 years. now they’re really really good at it. can i trust that they suddenly abandon this practice in exchange for my money or are they going to double-dip? a massive mega corp like would never… or?
TonyOstrich@lemmy.world
on 09 Dec 2023 02:03
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That’s where I am at as well. I would be more than happy to pay for YouTube Premium as I recognize it is not an insignificant undertaking, and I even think some of the algorithmic suggestions are good (though an option to turn them off maybe?). If I am paying for the service though then I think I should then become the customer, not the product, and should have some guarantees to that effect.
I’d also like to have a more clear idea of how much the service really costs. If it costs a lot to run, then just price it appropriately. Knock it off with this boil the frog bull shit and raising the cost every year or two.
Daxtron2@startrek.website
on 09 Dec 2023 02:09
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The free version of ChatGPT is still the same version as it was a year ago
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South Korea for anybody wanting to ship the article.
Edit: I’m keeping it as is.
Where are we shipping it?
North Korea
Haven't they suffered enough?
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It’s for Kim, everyone else can pay for it.
Not where, with whom.
We ship this article with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan.
Do people actually read the whole AI generated article just to find out the country name?
also what it used to cost, and what it does now, so you can skip the article for other reasons instead:
“YouTube’s annual subscription plan in South Korea was initially 10,450 won ($7.95 USD) per month for the web and 14,000 won ($10.65 USD) per month for Android and iOS.”
Pretty good value actually.
Except their feed is shite, the notifications have never worked, their support is awful, their policy is piss poor and randomly enforced and they don’t pay to create the vast vast vast majority of the content they are being paid for. So fuck them and their shitty platform.
I got dragged over from Google Play Music, and never use YouTube video.
My subscription is going from AUD 9.99 to AUD 16.99 a month in April, for features I couldn’t give a crap about.
I just want to listen to music, fuck this noise. I’ve got a reminder in my calendar in March to cancel my subscription and I might switch to Spotify which is $5 a month cheaper here.
I honestly find it hard to see how there is any value, just a waste of money. But you do you
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For Germany it was 11.99 -> 12.99€
I've been shipping South Korea and this article for years
Mmmh, South Korea and this article… so hot right now!
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Slow news day in tech I guess.
Use Revanced for your ad free YouTube needs.
i second this, more actual features for no extra money. (adblock, return youtube dislike, sponsorblock)
Now if only there were a revanced for my TV…
If you have an Android TV or Android box hooked to it, there’s SmartTube, which is pretty much reVanced for the big screen. It works great !
Louis Rossmann launched a new app Grayjay, which is to follow artists across platforms. It’s YouTube ad free, has another comments layer without YouTube monetization, allows downloads and they are working on sponsor block. It costs $10 because they do not sell your data, but it works without paying too because they are not assholes. But they are worth it to get the 10 bucks imo. He’s a strong fighter for right to repair, one of Google, Samsung and Apple’s biggest enemy. Grayjay.app is the website to download. He has a video on it on YouTube explaining everything.
Does anyone else get sketched out by louis rossmann?
He’s weird, but he has the right ideas.
You know what I purchased that whenever I first saw it like 2 months ago and I forgot about it because it needed a little more polish I’ll start using it again.
Thankfully Firefox and adblocking is free.
They will probably block “non-certified” browsers soon enough.
I’d hope that would lead to FTC action, but that’s only if the republicans don’t win the presidency next year.
And also EU DMA/DSA actions
Youtube’s entire platform is built around dominance. It’s the one-stop-shop for all “content creators.”
They won’t sacrifice that because it will make Youtube no longer synonymous with ‘online video.’
Firefox is like 3% of all internet browsing. Probably even less on YouTube. They can sacrifice a little bit.
I mean, that’s a terrible business decision when you have a monopoly.
I can easily see you getting fired for even suggesting this. It just shows how out of touch you are with modern economics.
This is Google’s strategy. Haven’t you followed the manifest V3 debacle? They want to end ad blocking once and for all. Their entire business model is to sell ads. They want to turn that ad blocking crooks into sweet new ad revenue. Maybe even subscription revenue.
Yes, but google won’t sacrifice its monopoly to show people more ads. Hence why they, you know, haven’t done it yet.
In what way are they sacrificing their monopoly? There’s no viable alternative to n YouTube.
They also restricted IE6 when it was far more dominant than Firefox is today (and when YouTube was far less dominant), so it’s not completely unheard of.
But using the dominance of YouTube to influence the browser market is textbook anticompetitive, painting a huge target on themselves for regulators.
They can probably find loop holes, like saying they do support many alternative browsers like Edge, Safari, Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, etc. . They just don’t want “insecure” and “outdated” browsers that support terrible stuff like ad blocking, but they can agree to support Firefox if Mozilla takes action to prevent “insecure” extensions like ad blocking.
Same model as all ways. Put all free, people completely upload their info and relying on it, monetize what people free uploaded. Same fucking model as all the companies and not just for media. Example ChatGPT. This should be illegal worldwide.
the thing is that i get why they need money for their infrastructure after blowing up so much. but what really rubs me the wrong way is: they have studied how to butcher people’s private data for 20 years. now they’re really really good at it. can i trust that they suddenly abandon this practice in exchange for my money or are they going to double-dip? a massive mega corp like would never… or?
That’s where I am at as well. I would be more than happy to pay for YouTube Premium as I recognize it is not an insignificant undertaking, and I even think some of the algorithmic suggestions are good (though an option to turn them off maybe?). If I am paying for the service though then I think I should then become the customer, not the product, and should have some guarantees to that effect.
I’d also like to have a more clear idea of how much the service really costs. If it costs a lot to run, then just price it appropriately. Knock it off with this boil the frog bull shit and raising the cost every year or two.
The free version of ChatGPT is still the same version as it was a year ago