Why You Should Hate the Proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty. (www.eff.org)
from ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 2024 18:51
https://sh.itjust.works/post/22941752

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Telorand@reddthat.com on 29 Jul 2024 19:21 next collapse

Thanks, I hate it. So, mission accomplished.

umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml on 29 Jul 2024 19:51 next collapse

This is one of the worst CTA I had raed recently.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 29 Jul 2024 20:42 next collapse

Counter-proposal: no.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 29 Jul 2024 21:27 next collapse

I haven’t even read the article, and I already hate it just by the title. I shall now go and read the article itself. The primary reason I hate it already is because anything with crime is generally used to take away people’s liberty.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2024 01:51 collapse

Idk man taking away peoples liberty to discriminate against people isn’t a bad thing IMHO.

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 30 Jul 2024 06:03 collapse

Define “discriminate”.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2024 06:13 collapse

To make distinctions on the basis of class or category without regard to individual merit, especially to show prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, gender, or a similar social factor.

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 01 Aug 2024 16:40 collapse

Nope, going to need more than the American Heritage dictionary #2 definition from you on this one.

What does it mean to discriminate? What groups of people are protected from it under law? What are the penalties for it? In your own words and using your own thoughts.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 01 Aug 2024 18:14 collapse

Sounds like you just want to find the loop holes of doing a hate crime. Have a good day!

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 03 Aug 2024 00:53 collapse

Sounds like you have no individual thought and default to personal attacks because you lack critical thinking skills.

I would return the pleasantry but you aren’t deserving of kind words considering the aforementioned personal attack.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2024 01:14 collapse

Sure dawg. Just cause I dont like to be hate crimed I have no individual thought. Peace out dude. May you forever live in interesting times.

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 03 Aug 2024 01:52 collapse

Weird that you dislike a thing you cannot even define, and humorous that you think disliking something you cannot define means you have individual thought.

Instead of hearing someone else’s opinion on something and taking it as your own, here is a simple step by step guide to help you in the future.

Step one: Learn all of the facts about a thing.

Step two: Form an opinion on that thing based on what you have learned.

Step three: Have the capacity to communicate that opinion, and the underlying information that formed it, to another person.

Hopefully that helps you through such “interesting times”. ;)

lewddude@lemmynsfw.com on 03 Aug 2024 02:31 next collapse

OK lil bro. I’ll do that.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2024 03:54 collapse

Thanks bro, you’re so smart. Have a nice day.

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 03 Aug 2024 16:22 collapse

you’re so smart

I know. Try to emulate it.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2024 18:00 collapse

But I dont care to do hate crimes =)

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 06 Aug 2024 16:23 collapse

Whatever you say. People who don’t hate or wish to hurt others over how they were born generally don’t have to keep telling everyone about it. Sounds like a lot of over compensation and projection to me.

Food for thought.

slacktoid@lemmy.ml on 06 Aug 2024 16:35 collapse

And most people who don’t care to do hate crimes don’t debate about the loopholes for doing hate crimes.

Keep your thoughts you need it.

Arkouda@lemmy.ca on 06 Aug 2024 16:45 collapse

If you cannot define what a hate crime is you have no business being a part of the conversation. Plain and simple.

Intelligent people debate the merits of ideas, ignoramus’ virtue signal. Pretty clear where you fall so don’t expect another response.

P.S. Take your own advice bud, you clearly have nothing of value to say.

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 08:28 next collapse

So various cockroaches have realized that the concept of WWW threatens their monopoly on information allowing them to commit crimes, but, when neutered, makes them tenfold more powerful.

See, in the 90s all the court decisions, cultural and political moves and other stuff in favor of freedom of speech and such in the Web and in the Internet were based on old world principles applied to a new technology. With such a combination these would ruin parts of that old world, but it was the only realistic way.

In the 00s that part has realized that it’s going to the junkyard of history and decided to break the parts of old world which produced those principles, and make new ones for the Web and for itself.

That’s what all these big states and corps are doing right now. I mean, I’m serious, some things can be either a war or a massacre. The latter if you ignore them. The humanity as a whole is trying to start moving back into barbarism.

96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl on 30 Jul 2024 13:15 next collapse

Slowly across the globe we move towards surveillance states, one country is further down the path than the other, but we all makes steps in the same directions. If public awareness won’t rise I don’t see us escaping this dystopian future. Still today many people argue ‘I have nothing to hide’ and don’t have any critical thought beyond this point. Are we doomed or am I being to negative?

balder1991@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 14:00 next collapse

We are fine. The next generations are doomed with the tech we created.

PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 15:04 collapse

People are sheep. Yes we are doomed, but most are too blind to see it.

daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2024 15:44 next collapse

Just by looking at it I know for them cybercrime is ad-blocking and piracy. Meanwhile phone scams are the most common form of “”“cyber”“” crime and no one bats an eye on them.

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 16:43 next collapse

The fact that the phone system hasn’t been overhauled to prevent spoofing is a sign of how little anyone actually gives a shit about helping people.

Venator@lemmy.nz on 31 Jul 2024 00:01 next collapse

Not only that they’ll probably start using all sorts of surveillance data that Google and Facebook etc. have for all sort of things that people don’t expect e.g. Maybe use GPS data to issue speeding tickets…

Venator@lemmy.nz on 31 Jul 2024 02:34 collapse

IANAL: It sounds like the EFF recommendation probably wouldn’t help prevent it from being used to investigate ad blocking and piracy:

Recommendation: Restrict the definition to “core cybercrimes” like technical attacks on computers, devices, data, and communications systems. Exclude human rights-protected activities from the scope of the treaty to prevent misuse and ensure these rights are not unjustly targeted due to equating cybercrime with any crime using ICT.

Since blocking ads and piracy aren’t likely to be directly related to human rights protected activities, and they’ll probably stretch the definition of “core cybercrimes” to include those…

JenIsBringingTheDrugs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2024 17:50 collapse

The link to their key concerns seems to be broken

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Venator@lemmy.nz on 31 Jul 2024 00:11 collapse

google cache version

That feature was hard to find though, had to search cache:https://www.eff.org/files/2024/07/29/eff-treaty-un-pagers.pdf and apparently access to google cache is going away entirely soon, so I saved the google cache to the way back machine too

JenIsBringingTheDrugs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 31 Jul 2024 16:05 collapse

Thank you, appreciate it!